Quitting smoking

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did you smoke roll-ups? bison, samson, van nelle tobacco? a packet (40-50 grams) every two days? plus the occasional joint which i inhaled like crazy? i think my lung is pretty huge, i have been running marathons before i started smoking 22 years ago. there is still lots of tar in my lungs, i am sure. isn't there this rule of thumb that if you have smoked heavily for x years, you need x years to tidy up your lung?

alex in mainhattan, Friday, 8 October 2010 21:40 (thirteen years ago) link

lungs not lung

alex in mainhattan, Friday, 8 October 2010 21:41 (thirteen years ago) link

nope didn't smoke roll-ups. I guess it makes sense that they would be worse. did your throat hurt while you were a smoker?

get off my lawn (rockapads), Friday, 8 October 2010 21:43 (thirteen years ago) link

xps i smoked about a pack a day or 1.5 days for around 12 years, and then cut right down to 2 a day in july 2008 - still at 2 a day. occasionally 3. if we're away from home i can go at least 6 days without evening thinking about it.

the problem with this method and with the allen carr method is that neither of them are gonna suit everyone. for me, giving up smoking was about the routine of it: i crave a cig when i get home from work, bc that's when i always have one, but i never think about having one now at any other time (except still when i'm drinking - that's the hardest - which is probably why i rarely drink these days). everyone said that quitting or cutting down when i moved countries would be the worst time, and i guess it probably was in some ways, but it was also the best bc i had an entirely new routine which was untainted by a smoking habit. i got to basically start over.

just1n3, Friday, 8 October 2010 23:39 (thirteen years ago) link

haha should have doublechecked before i posted - i basically already posted the exact same thing already! except we did move and i didn't completely quit bc goddamnit i enjoy a cig when i get home from work, esp now we have a pretty backyard i can sit in while i do it.

just1n3, Friday, 8 October 2010 23:41 (thirteen years ago) link

QUIT SMOKING!!!!!!!!!!!!111!!1!

buzza, Saturday, 9 October 2010 00:31 (thirteen years ago) link

did your throat hurt while you were a smoker?
when i smoked too many cigarettes, let' say 40 a day or so it did. i also often had the smokers cough (Raucherhusten), ie when you don't smoke for a while, eg in a cinema, you start coughing as your throat is sore or scratchy.

alex in mainhattan, Saturday, 9 October 2010 15:26 (thirteen years ago) link

dr3w u r on the edge of the abyss, for real

the only truffuluther on ilx (gbx), Saturday, 9 October 2010 15:28 (thirteen years ago) link

Made it through my first friday night without smoking. Ran 5 miles this morning and just trying to make it past this weekend

Aerosol, Saturday, 9 October 2010 22:24 (thirteen years ago) link

got shitfaced and only puffed on two fags, going pretty well imo

acieeed reflux (electricsound), Saturday, 9 October 2010 22:32 (thirteen years ago) link

Day 7 of not smoking, including three nights when beers were had.

This competitive thing with my friend (I won't crack until she does) is really working for both of us - but I have a feeling she's on the verge (her live-in bf is still smoking), I have to be able to stay the course after she does.

a cross between lily allen and fetal alcohol syndrome (milo z), Sunday, 10 October 2010 00:40 (thirteen years ago) link

2 WEEKS YO

Aerosol, Tuesday, 19 October 2010 18:35 (thirteen years ago) link

5.5 years... i'm still plannign on writing my book about quitting!

george pimpton (s1ocki), Tuesday, 19 October 2010 18:39 (thirteen years ago) link

quitting s1ocking

Aerosol, Tuesday, 19 October 2010 18:53 (thirteen years ago) link

48 days, four hours and 55 minutes. Still not lapsed, unexpectedly.

James Mitchell, Tuesday, 19 October 2010 19:55 (thirteen years ago) link

im going to try AGAIN, this sunday. I bought one of those electric cigs.

thebingo2010 (chrisv2010), Tuesday, 19 October 2010 19:56 (thirteen years ago) link

slocki when you write you book, you should not come up with or use a bunch of different synonyms for cigarettes. I mean, you can if you want, but it gets kind of maddening to read a book where they have some cutesy new name for the things every paragraph.

17th Century Catholic Spain (Abbbottt), Tuesday, 19 October 2010 19:56 (thirteen years ago) link

"backer-wackers"
"mouth buddies"
"lung-treats"
"inhaler wailers"

george pimpton (s1ocki), Tuesday, 19 October 2010 19:57 (thirteen years ago) link

they fucking TALK

george pimpton (s1ocki), Tuesday, 19 October 2010 20:16 (thirteen years ago) link

Good literature featuring quitting as a central theme:

The narrator / protagonist of Italo Svevo's Zeno's Conscience quits frequently.

X20: A Novel of Not Smoking by Richard Beard. Again, about quitting, but on the Oulipo tip, with numerous writing constraints based on the number 20.

No, but I would risk my life to save 2 siblings or 8 cousins (Sanpaku), Tuesday, 19 October 2010 21:50 (thirteen years ago) link

my husband started smoking again. must resist temptation to have one myself. ARGH

Nathalie (stevienixed), Wednesday, 20 October 2010 12:01 (thirteen years ago) link

mouth buddies makes me think of

gis'd what "mouth buddies" makes me think of but will not post results

guess I'll just sing dream on again (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Wednesday, 20 October 2010 12:05 (thirteen years ago) link

there just comes this time in the evening when i want to head outside and lean against a wall and stare up at the sky and smoke a cigarette.

ksh me thru the phone (c sharp major), Wednesday, 20 October 2010 23:00 (thirteen years ago) link

I lasted 3 whole days before I caved lol :( But, I'm getting better at going 24-36 hours without smokes, so I'll just try and get more disciplined. I have ZERO willpower bcz basically I dont GAF.

cathedral-sized jellyfish in your mind (Trayce), Wednesday, 20 October 2010 23:11 (thirteen years ago) link

Just the phrase "mouth buddies" makes me glad I'm not a smoker. It makes me glad I'm not a lot of things.

17th Century Catholic Spain (Abbbottt), Wednesday, 20 October 2010 23:13 (thirteen years ago) link

im going to try AGAIN, this sunday. I bought one of those electric cigs.

― thebingo2010 (chrisv2010), Tuesday, October 19, 2010 7:56 PM (Yesterday)

huge pro tip here - the first 1-3 days you will be convinced that the thing isnt going to work out and that it isnt giving you enough nicotine and whatever, but stay the course, from what i can tell thats just withdrawal from all the pointless bullshit in cigarettes, once you get past that the e cigarette is the shit.

(note: if u smoke camels that is the worst for this effect.)

O_o-O_0-o_O (jjjusten), Wednesday, 20 October 2010 23:22 (thirteen years ago) link

also load up on cartridges, its way too easy to run out and then go "oh hey ill just buy a pack while im waiting for the shipment to arrive"

plus dropping $100 on a shit ton of cartridges worked my "must use everything i buy as much as possible" weird old miser nerve really well

O_o-O_0-o_O (jjjusten), Wednesday, 20 October 2010 23:24 (thirteen years ago) link

ecigs did nothign for me, like smoking vapes, I hated em.

cathedral-sized jellyfish in your mind (Trayce), Thursday, 21 October 2010 00:58 (thirteen years ago) link

Also, any money savings from ecigs is theoretical at best. You'll end up spending way more till you find a PV and liquid you're happy with.

First try a disposable Q-ecigarette for $10 to see if vaping is remotely plausible. Then I recommend the Joye eGo (650 mAh batteries mean you're not constantly swapping batteries). E-liquids are a usually a mix of propelene glycol (PG, not antifreeze, for throat hit), vegetable glycerin (VG, for visible vapor), flavorings and nicotene. My experience is that nearly any amount of PG gives the smoke a saccharine sweetness I hate. I liked the VG only liquids in mild flavors. A retailer I liked was www.cignot.com.

In the end, I discovered after a couple months that I really had a better (and far cheaper) experience importing snus. I gave all the e-cig kit I'd accumulated to a nephew who has used them for a couple years.

No, but I would risk my life to save 2 siblings or 8 cousins (Sanpaku), Thursday, 21 October 2010 02:40 (thirteen years ago) link

that sounds way more complicated than quitting

george pimpton (s1ocki), Thursday, 21 October 2010 04:24 (thirteen years ago) link

The 2 ppl I know who invested in ecigs smoked them for a week or 2 then went back to smokes. They *are*handy for smoking in non-smoking venues, mind you (if the venue'll allow that).

cathedral-sized jellyfish in your mind (Trayce), Thursday, 21 October 2010 04:25 (thirteen years ago) link

one week today. from about 15 a day. still kinda want to just murder everything, but it is getting a bit better, i think. pretty confident i'm gonna make it, at least.

rent, Friday, 22 October 2010 04:00 (thirteen years ago) link

How do you get past the whole not even WANTING to quit thing? Thats basically where I am. I only even tried last week because I am sick of being a compulsive smoker and it putting off potential dates (as well as aging my skin/being stinky). But beyond that I genuinely dont *care* about giving up. Not in the least.

(Sorry JD - you were so supportive of my declaration on FB, I feel bad now!)

cathedral-sized jellyfish in your mind (Trayce), Friday, 22 October 2010 04:16 (thirteen years ago) link

for me it just happens once a year or so, usually after being sick with something and remembering how much i really would hate being unhealthy for an extended period. while i always kind of know i should quit, sometimes emotionally things just seem to align, and i always wait for that before even trying. that's where i'm at now, and obviously it makes it soooo much easier. while i want to smoke, the desire not to be a smoker is much stronger right now. hoping the feeling lasts.

rent, Friday, 22 October 2010 04:23 (thirteen years ago) link

So I've been leaving my cigs at home when I go to work in an attempt to cut down and finally quit. Seems I can go the day without em, but yesterday I ended up getting OTT stressed out, nearly shouted at my own boss and went to have a cry in the toilet. My emotions were utterly out of wack for the rest of the evening.

village idiot (dog latin), Friday, 22 October 2010 11:15 (thirteen years ago) link

How do you get past the whole not even WANTING to quit thing?

I have this problem. Like, I know I should quit for health reasons. I think the problem with me is that I don't smoke very much so I don't really notice any adverse effects like a smoker's cough or running out of breath, or spending loads of money, so I don't have much in the way of motivating factors. I end up thinking, well I only smoke when I'm out drinking, is it really doing me that much harm that's it worth going through cravings every time I go for a pint? Which unfortunately is what happens, I've given up for months before and it doesn't seem to go away.

a fucking stove just fell on my foot. (Colonel Poo), Friday, 22 October 2010 11:48 (thirteen years ago) link

three-and-a-half weeks. over the bit where I want them a lot (in fact I dislike the idea of them now), but rage & impatience running high. My casual conversation is full of swearing, & I feel ready to kill/excoriate people standing too close to me, brushing against me, walking too slowly, speaking near me, misoccupying bus seats etc etc etc, (just a cranked-up version of usual London rage, obvs). it's sort of fun, rage is fun.

portrait of velleity (woof), Friday, 22 October 2010 11:50 (thirteen years ago) link

can completely see that motivation problem - if I wasn't so gung-ho about it & could just smoke while drinking with friends, then I'd be far less driven to stop. But if I start, it fills my idle hours, and the mountain of reasons to quit - health, hygiene, money, ethics (bad companies!), shabbiness of dependency – falls on me.

portrait of velleity (woof), Friday, 22 October 2010 12:01 (thirteen years ago) link

Kind of a fundamental rehab/quitting thing that you're not going to unless you're ready, right? If you know that you should, but still have no desire to quit, maybe it's not the time to try - you're just going to make yourself extra miserable and fail.

boots get knocked from here to czechoslovakier (milo z), Friday, 22 October 2010 15:06 (thirteen years ago) link

I was in the "I don't want to quit" camp until I developed a bit of a smoker cough, which was why I ended up quitting. Smokers ask me how I quit and I just tell them I finally really wanted to. One thing that worked for me is was that I sort of let myself fail once. I quit with the patch for two weeks and one Friday night I just indulged myself. Ripped off the patch and bought a pack (and a bottle) and went to town. I felt so shitty, smelly, and guilty afterward, I think it really helped me avoid temptation when I quit again a few weeks later.

P.S. I don't really understand people who get all aggro when they quit, especially weeks after the nicotine is out of their system, but I guess "it's sort of fun, rage is fun" kind of explains it. It's not the nic withdrawal; it's you.

get off my lawn (rockapads), Friday, 22 October 2010 16:03 (thirteen years ago) link

u still have to live with u

george pimpton (s1ocki), Friday, 22 October 2010 16:06 (thirteen years ago) link

god, i need to stop. i really need to stop.

strongohulkingtonsghost, Friday, 22 October 2010 16:07 (thirteen years ago) link

my mouth hurts.

strongohulkingtonsghost, Friday, 22 October 2010 16:07 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah i have the vapopro joy e 110, thing is a beast. Plus refillable cartridges.

Str8 Drapin It (chrisv2010), Friday, 22 October 2010 16:07 (thirteen years ago) link

P.S. I don't really understand people who get all aggro when they quit, especially weeks after the nicotine is out of their system, but I guess "it's sort of fun, rage is fun" kind of explains it. It's not the nic withdrawal; it's you.

OH YEAH? MAYBE IT'S YOU. BRING IT. JUST BRING IT. IT IS ON.

(but srsly, this is prob right - it feels like smoke-routines, even putting chemicals aside, structure or modulate anxiety and rage - always an action to take, always something to reach for, always a back-of-the-mind plan about the next one. Without them, it all gets a bit more unpredictable.)

portrait of velleity (woof), Friday, 22 October 2010 16:22 (thirteen years ago) link

I hear you on that. Maybe for me the equivalent was just missing the smoke pit at work. Getting stressed about something and immediately wanting to "take a break", and not really having anywhere to go

get off my lawn (rockapads), Friday, 22 October 2010 16:29 (thirteen years ago) link

I have forever been all about not wanting to quit and I just really like smoking. It came to a head a few weeks ago when I just had no money and wouldn’t have any money for a least a week. These fucking things go for more then $9 a pack around here. I smoked about a pack a day it’s just ridiculous having to account for that in my budget every month.

Aerosol, Friday, 22 October 2010 16:49 (thirteen years ago) link

does girlfriend steal smokes?

buzza, Friday, 22 October 2010 16:51 (thirteen years ago) link

lol
I’d have to hip her to some fancy designer ones or somethin

Aerosol, Friday, 22 October 2010 16:54 (thirteen years ago) link


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