Katrina's aftermath

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haha miami = the rural south now???

j blount (papa la bas), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 21:45 (eighteen years ago) link

all red states = rural south.

The Original Jimmy Mod: Kind Warrior (The Famous Jimmy Mod), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 21:45 (eighteen years ago) link

(i know, florida =! the south cuz there are too many jews)

ian quiche-lorraine (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 21:46 (eighteen years ago) link

orange beach and gulf shores sure as hell ain't "rural."

hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 21:47 (eighteen years ago) link

Er, anyway. President of Tulane has sent out this:

Tulane University


Current Status

August 30, 11:45 a.m.

Dear Tulane Faculty, Staff, Students and Friends:

As you all know by now, New Orleans and the surrounding parishes were severely damaged by Hurricane Katrina. The physical damage to the area, including Tulanes campuses, was extensive.

Unfortunately, conditions in the city continue to deteriorate, making it virtually impossible to begin recovery efforts. On a very positive note, in Tulanes case, we are very thankful that all of our people are safe, including all the students and staff who evacuated to Jackson, Mississippi.

We have started the process of assessing the condition of our campus facilities and determining how long it will take us to reopen. This assessment process will take days because many of the answers will be determined by how quickly the city and its services become operational. The situation is further complicated by the fact that! there is no power in the city, water levels continue to rise, all city roads are blocked, and the vast majority of our workforce had to leave the parish as part of the mandatory evacuation order. It is unclear at this time when people will be allowed to return to the city.

Given the uncertainties, we cannot determine at this time when employees and students should return to campus. We will do the best we can to keep you appraised of our situation and progress.

Also, I want to remind you that the universitys main website is not operating at this time and we do not know when we will be able to bring it back on-line. Due to this, the Tulane email system is not functioning. However, this website (emergency.tulane.edu ) will continue to have the most up-to-date information about university operations and the Tulane Alert Line at 1-877-862-8080 and 1-504-862-8080 will also have! the most current information available. These communication vehicles are the best source of information about Tulane since phone and cell service are unreliable.

I realize that you have many more questions than we have answers at this time. However, Im sure you understand the complexity and difficulty of the situation we face. Nonetheless, we are determined to move forward as quickly as possible and make Tulane University an even stronger and healthier institution. We have been in New Orleans for 171 years and we look forward to another century in this great city.


Scott S. Cowen

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 21:47 (eighteen years ago) link

and my grandma doesn't live anywhere near miami, so wtf do you know.

ian quiche-lorraine (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 21:47 (eighteen years ago) link

but you guys are right, all those 'those people deserved to die - their state's electoral votes went to bush' post-hurricane comments definitely come from southerners. yep.

j blount (papa la bas), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 21:47 (eighteen years ago) link

that jandek show is definitely not happening.

hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 21:48 (eighteen years ago) link

blount, where on this thread did ANYONE say that?

ian quiche-lorraine (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 21:48 (eighteen years ago) link

but you guys are right, all those 'those people deserved to die - their state's electoral votes went to bush' post-hurricane comments definitely come from southerners. yep

pat robertson and jerry falwell are southerners who said 9/11 was god's retribution for america's sin.

hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 21:49 (eighteen years ago) link

From a blog comment:

First footage of Slidell and Eden outside of New Orleans is coming in on WWL.

Eden by a miracle has been spared with only a rapidly receding 4 foot flood. Slidell... well, some of the footage looks Tsunami level. 20 foot surge from the lake quoted. The centre looks sort of intact if heavily flooded, but the lake fringe - about two blocks deep ... there doesn't seem to be anything left at all. Just debris. I pray enough evacuated.

"Been hit and been hit hard." - Slidell Police Chief. "Water lines torn loose... no communications, isolated from outside world... just local communications... concerned people with famalies may try to come back... can't supply basic needs of life. Many, many days until electricity restored... Need to get the message out that the emergency care workers have had no fatalities or injuries, to reassure the famalies." --- (Paraphrased) "As to city fatalities, we don't know. But seemingly no major fatalaties as of yet."

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 21:50 (eighteen years ago) link

Thanks, Frank.(Ned: still a nice rack, and great thread to boot.) Still catching up with friends and relatives on Coast, (Esp. Baldwin County area Stence just mentioned.) (NBC News on now: "70 dead [more than that to be confirmed, I'm pretty sure]; 5,000,000 without power [in Jackson MS, 170 miles inland, for inst.]; didn't catch how many homeless, either 10,000 or 100,000, either seems plausible at this point.) NPR interviewing people on st. in N.O.:" if a gas station is open, there's nothing to buy but beer and wine." A woman cries, while confessing "I took some food for my family. I never, ever thought I'd come to this." Hurricane season has gone so far against odds last few years, really does seem like global warming's generally-agreed on acceleration will mandate some kind of radical population shift away from coasts, all over the world, not just on the Gulf (though that's the best place to start). Not that it won't get cocked up at best, esp. if Bush and his backers have to overtly concede existance of global warming, but....

don, Tuesday, 30 August 2005 21:51 (eighteen years ago) link

While I don't remember any offhand except for Floyd, haven't there been an inordinate amount of hurricanes that have hit New England in the past, too? (all the more reason to feel bitter about the idea of some people in the Northeast being smug about this... well, any smugness about this event from anywhere is just sickening, obviously )

donut gon' nut (donut), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 21:51 (eighteen years ago) link

haha yes limit it to 'um, just on this thread', since when was trife referring to a specific post on this thread (especially since anyone on this board wanting to crack those jokes has what - four? five? - other threads devoted specifically to that purpose).


xpost right stence but you and jody don't jump up to blast anyone who suggests pat robertson and jerry falwell might be assholes.

j blount (papa la bas), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 21:52 (eighteen years ago) link

Hey, Mr. President! While hundreds are feared dead and one of the largest cities in America rests underwater, how did you spend your Tuesday?

http://us.news3.yimg.com/us.i2.yimg.com/p/ap/20050830/capt.capm10208301856.bush__capm102.jpg

I attribute this more to stupidity than apathy, for what it's worth.

Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 21:52 (eighteen years ago) link

all the more reason to feel bitter about the idea of some people in the Northeast being smug about this

i'll admit that i feel lucky to be in a city where "acts of god" like this are rare if not nonexistent, but we're still a big-league target for terrorism obv.

ian quiche-lorraine (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 21:54 (eighteen years ago) link

>orange beach and gulf shores sure as hell ain't "rural."<

What part of the Southern Shoreboard is "rural"? This is a stupid fucking argument. You can't go across any section of shoreline in the US without bumping into a city or vacation destination.

Alan Conceicao (Alan Conceicao), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 21:54 (eighteen years ago) link

Thanks Don. About to go home -- friend's back in town from a year overseas and he's crashing with me for a few days so I'm going to get him settled in and all. Will check in later.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 21:54 (eighteen years ago) link

because pat robertson and jerry falwell are assholes, blount. and so are you, so far on this thread. i've REPEATEDLY made my disgust known at laugh-at-the-hurricane-victims stuff, so has jody, while all you do is sit around and blame the people who aren't even doing it!

anyway new york is just as susceptible to hurricanes (see: 1820s) so laugh away when it happens here, just don't expect me to not call you an asshole then, too.

hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 21:55 (eighteen years ago) link

White people don't loot, by the way. They "find bread".

Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 21:55 (eighteen years ago) link

Herr W. is flashing a funny interpretation of the G chord there...

The Original Jimmy Mod: Kind Warrior (The Famous Jimmy Mod), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 21:58 (eighteen years ago) link

Though one last thing for now -- Jesus H. This is a photo of the oil rig that smashed into the Cochrane Bridge in Mobile:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/nol/shared/spl/hi/pop_ups/05/americas_katrina_hits_us/img/8.jpg

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 21:59 (eighteen years ago) link

haha yes limit it to 'um, just on this thread', since when was trife referring to a specific post on this thread (especially since anyone on this board wanting to crack those jokes has what - four? five? - other threads devoted specifically to that purpose).

look. just please stop it with your "northerners drive like this" shtick. your attitude is exactly as smug as the attitude you're criticizing.

we have red states, you have blue states, we have centers of conservatism and fundamentalist religion, you have "liberal" tourist meccas. we even have uneducated poor people and some of them aren't even white!!

ian quiche-lorraine (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 22:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Er, Stence, Jody, James, Ethan? What are you fighting about? Seems off-topic.

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 22:02 (eighteen years ago) link

well stence if nyc does get hit by a hurricane and you call people making jokes about it assholes remind me to use your behavior as a guide and to immediately blast you for doing so while ducking out of it with the caveat 'o i think people making those jokes are assholes - but you better not say anything of the kind'. in the meantime you and jody and the bluestate equivalent of fuxx that try to spin people disgusted by ann coulter or pat robertson as 'humorless'. sorry if i don't find one of the best cities in america underwater, some of the poorer parts of america devestated, and god knows how many people dead 'hilarious' or 'justified' because some of their elected officials are republican. i'm an asshole that way.

j blount (papa la bas), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 22:03 (eighteen years ago) link

when the fuck did i make fun of anyone dying, blount!?!?!? POINT IT FUCKING OUT.

hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 22:04 (eighteen years ago) link

(xpost) ok, well, i'm gonna lunch-monitor myself now and shut up. back to hurricane news.

ian quiche-lorraine (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 22:04 (eighteen years ago) link

No James, don't point it out. Please stop this discussion and get back to the matter at hand.

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 22:04 (eighteen years ago) link

i hadnt really realised it was biloxi that took the brunt. mary and i were there a couple of years ago. i know its kind of daft, to worry, but, is the ole biloxi schooner ok? is it still standing?

charltonlido (gareth), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 22:05 (eighteen years ago) link

you have your head so far up your own ass, it's appalling. my stepmom's family LIVES in new orleans and chalmette, you fucking douchebag. my dad and stepmom didn't evacuate even though ivan's eye tracked just east of their house last year. and i never made the kind of jokes about the 4 florida hurricanes being retribution for 2000 that MANY OTHERS made on ilx. FIND ONE REAL SCAPEGOAT, you stupid fucking dipshit.

hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 22:06 (eighteen years ago) link

And James, please don't respond to stence's last post.

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 22:07 (eighteen years ago) link

There are several reports that the Uptown area remains unflooded, particularly around Magazine and Jefferson (at least to Webster)

This is pretty much exactly where I live (Mag and State, a block from Webster) and very close to where Kyle/Fetchboy indicated he would be staying. So that's a slight silver lining for the shit-covered stormcloud of today.

adam (adam), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 22:07 (eighteen years ago) link

in the meantime you and jody and the bluestate equivalent of fuxx that try to spin people disgusted by ann coulter or pat robertson as 'humorless'.

i am disgusted by both of those "commentators," and i am disgusted when people do it on the left to those in the south. WHERE DID I SAY FUCKING OTHERWISE YOU FUCKING MORON?

sorry if i don't find one of the best cities in america underwater, some of the poorer parts of america devestated, and god knows how many people dead 'hilarious' or 'justified' because some of their elected officials are republican. i'm an asshole that way.

HELLO YOU DUMBSHIT WHERE DO YOU THINK MY FAMILY'S FROM??!??!? WHERE DO YOU THINK MY GRANDFATHER'S BURIED??!?!?

hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 22:08 (eighteen years ago) link

i am sorry to everyone else on this thread but blount's complete idiocy has got me incredibly fucking mad and i'm not gonna sit back and take it. i'll stop in a minute but for now FUCK YOU BLOUNT YOU STUPID WINDBAG.

hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 22:09 (eighteen years ago) link

Or to this one.

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 22:09 (eighteen years ago) link

sorry frank. i am really frustrated not knowing what's going on with people who i care about. i know i shouldn't take it out on the thread.

hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 22:10 (eighteen years ago) link

i'm concerned about bay st. louis. my grandparents got married there when my grandpa was stationed in meridian during wwII.

ian quiche-lorraine (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 22:10 (eighteen years ago) link

While I don't remember any offhand except for Floyd, haven't there been an inordinate amount of hurricanes that have hit New England in the past, too?

No. New England (or really anyplace about Virginia) doesn't get many hurricanes compared with the south and Gulf Coast..

However, they do show up on occasion.

Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 22:17 (eighteen years ago) link

I think it's time for me to quit feeling bad about my one downed tree and open my checkbook to the Red Cross.

Rock Hardy (Rock Hardy), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 22:18 (eighteen years ago) link

rock is everyone you know ok?

j blount (papa la bas), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 22:19 (eighteen years ago) link

ugh, "ABOVE"

Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 22:19 (eighteen years ago) link

also, if my interest in new orleans is a little lopsided compared to the other places along the gulf, it's because i've lived in new orleans. (and i've been to many of the other towns along the LA/MS coast, so it's all too easy for me to visualize the catastrophic conditions there.)

ian quiche-lorraine (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 22:21 (eighteen years ago) link

Yes. My southernmost kin is my sister in Louisville (between Starkville and Jackson). Her power's still out, but no damage or injury. (xpost to blount)

Rock Hardy (Rock Hardy), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 22:23 (eighteen years ago) link

(Thanks James. And Stence, I hope everyone you know gets out of this OK.)

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 22:25 (eighteen years ago) link

yeah i'm hoping the rebuilding dollars will spur investment and maybe this'll be a good thing somehow in the long run but considering how reliant on the tourist dollar alot of the region is man i don't know, things look pretty dire. my thoughts when i'm in that area are usually 'this is what georgia would be like if it didn't have atlanta to carry its ass' in a half-charmed/half-horrified way.

i'm getting really sick of these talking heads lambasting people who didn't evacuate.

j blount (papa la bas), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 22:27 (eighteen years ago) link

>While I don't remember any offhand except for Floyd, haven't there been an inordinate amount of hurricanes that have hit New England in the past, too?<

The issue is the water, from what I understand. Hurricanes form in the South Atlantic, starting off the shores of Africa and moving west, until eventually forming and then generally gunning into the Carribbean. Cyclones almost never form in the North Atlantic, due to the cold temperature of the water, and those that do hit the northeast are storms that typically tiptoe up the coastline, pushed back by the prevailing winds and fronts (which also typically makes them fairly weak hurricanes, in comparison to the Category 4s and 5s that land in the Southeast and Gulf).

Alan Conceicao (Alan Conceicao), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 22:28 (eighteen years ago) link

what was the one big hurricane that hit virginia and moved north some 10 years or so ago?

who else is watching this snake guy on cnn?

j blount (papa la bas), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 22:31 (eighteen years ago) link

I remember reading that the 1938 hurricane caused huge destruction in New England, part of the problem being that weather forecasting was primitive then and there was little warning before it hit.

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 22:32 (eighteen years ago) link

xp

Andrew?

The Original Jimmy Mod: Kind Warrior (The Famous Jimmy Mod), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 22:35 (eighteen years ago) link

yeah primitive forecasting is the reason for galveston being so destructive.

j blount (papa la bas), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 22:36 (eighteen years ago) link


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