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Whispered comment during the movie: "Why are all white supremacists so ugly?"

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i know!! that's why i said it felt like 2/3rds of a movie. you'd think at some point you'd, y'know, find out who the mole was

xpost i remember very clearly an episode of miami vice where the director/editor/mann/whoever cross-cut a hott sex-scene filmed almost in the dark, with a red gel over everything, the participants gnashing their teeh and moaning, with some gangland torture and execution. i was watching with my parents and my mom rolled her eyes and is like "he's trying to equate sex with violence. i just think that is so... LAME."

Oh yes. And when Foxx finally takes out the intel guy, it's a real mess. That time you don't just get the splatter, you get a quick shot afterwards of the gory body with a huge hole in it and a nasty flap of skin somewhere it shouldn't be. Pure gun porn.

And the finest in men's clothes, modern weaponry, cars, watches and gadgets.

I really loved the final, final shot, in part because it was as mundane as security-camera feed but moving as well.

i wished that gong li had stuck to the "hard-headed businesswoman" persona she was projecting in the beginning, and not turned into a vulnerable ho-bag. my favorite character was the female backup who shot the kidnapper.

The more I think about it, the more I agree with you. I was charged walking out of the theater, thoughtful by the time I got around to posting on ILE, and now reverent of Mann, as all film geeks should be. Ain't his masterpiece or anything, but damnit if he can't make a good goddamn movie.

i feel odd saying this, because i'm ambivalence about cronenberg's movies while i've been a mann booster in the past, but the scenes of violence in "history of violence" (admittedly much less protracted than the ones here) were models of clarity compared to what was going on in "miami vice."

yeah very few people can pull those off. thank god for brian depalma

good action. stylish. a little convoluted maybe, but i found it gripping for the most part. some great shots and very intense scenes.

that'd be Doug Liman, who first showed up with Swingers and the Tiger Woods golf-ball-juggling advert.

Nice guy in person, but I haven't seen any of his action flicks yet.

They said this at least once more with a different word at the end!

there was a lot of 'let's do this'. you can't really have too much of that, though.

my favorite character was the female backup who shot the kidnapper.

seconded.

maybe on the dvd it will be possible to decipher what the fuck they're talking about, but i loved it.

the music is REALLY BAD. just totally fucking anonymous. i usually like mann's music.

thanks, as suspected i never need to see this.

Haha, Paul Verhoeven does this too.

I just started watching the DVDs of Crime Story, Mann's follow-up series to Miami Vice. Four or five episodes in, it's not quite as good as MV. The characters, especially Dennis Farina's, are much more archetypally Cop-y), but the action and the art-direction are just as much fun (in the Abel Ferrara-directed pilot, especially).

heat
the insider
manhunter
thief
collateral
the last of the mohicans
miami vice
the keep

there were a few oddly-pitched moments like this, when one of the characters would make some flaky pop-culture reference in a completely deadpan voice, and no one would respond to it. i enjoyed this for its utter strangeness.

Thinking about all the night combat scenes and general weirdness still makes me happy.

there were a few oddly-pitched moments like this, when one of the characters would make some flaky pop-culture reference in a completely deadpan voice, and no one would respond to it. i enjoyed this for its utter strangeness.

i saw it at the arclight in hollywood the day after it was released, so naturally the theater was awash in screenwriter scum, laughing in full voice at all the popcultrefs and mann-isms.

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and i might rank LotM higher if i'd seen it in the past 12 years!