Has ILE become too pally?

Yeah, these pally threads make me feel left out. Well, not really.

I hate easy interaction.

you like stilted conversations and awkward silences??

ilx:

http://www.german-cinema.de/archive/images/dr_mabuse_the_gambler_the_great_gambler_a_picture_of_our_time.jpg

I am the fat dude at the end of the table who looks like he wants to cry.

I like how the Hand from the Addams Family was invited to that party.

I honestly haven't posted to an intellectual thread ever. Perhaps its because I consider myself outclassed. Or perhaps I think that if I did post something rather than typical Chris V. banter would I be taken seriously? Im not sure. Actually, i lied I probably posted to an intellectual thread once or twice, but it probably involved a shit joke. Unfortunately, in real life I am nothing like my alter ego.

my name isn't really Chris either.

Right, it's Poops McGee!

Many messages while I was out, geez.

Nick said:

Yeah you can, in theory. It doesn't have to be either of things. In practice, maybe you're right that those are the two traps it can fall into.

In theory, yeah, I just meant that in the time I've been on ILX, and especially ILE (there were a couple months when I was only on ILM ... which I hardly ever read now, for lack of time), it doesn't seem like more than a couple weeks ever goes by without there being a lengthy thread about one or the other of those problems.

Whether they're actually problems or not -- whether the perceived traits of ILX-at-the-time are there or are just transient things which might go away if ignored -- and whether they're traps or just things that happen, the way all social groups shift and mingle -- is a whole nother question. I don't have a strong opinion one way or the other, which is probably why I'm not bothered either by group-hug-chat-room ILX or I-hate-sparrows ILX.

haha he put intellectual in quote marks

Don't take that wrong, I was rushed for time and trying to clarify that serious threads don't always have to be about "intellectual" things (for lack of a word coming more quickly to mind), nor do intellectual threads need to be serious. We could probably have a rollicking thread about Saussure and dick jokes, really.

i read and post on the "earnest" threads bcz the chances of finding somewhere else in the world where i get my ideas this stretched or challenged = v.slim indeed

I wasn't dismissing or criticizing that or anything, it's just not an opportunity I lack elsewhere.

It's kind of true I guess, I feel I know the people being pally too to some extent but I don't have much to say sometimes cos it's a joke I don't get. It doesn't really bother me though I was a bit disappointed when starting threads recently. I think one thing about being on ILX less is you think more about starting threads because it is a way to maximise the time you are on it for. I've been feeling quite serious lately but I feel there's a big amount of work needed to make a serious thread takeoff, ie keep posting sincerely to stop it descending into a pisstake, for example the thread on music I started a while ago.

I'm not bitter or anything but it is a bit sad if this is happening others aswell.

In no way do I really consider this a big thing and I'm not on here enough to complain what with work and all but it is how I feel nonetheless. I haven't really talked properly to people here in ages despite posting daily, albeit a little less, it's very easy to fall out of the loop actually. But I'm sure I'll be back. Positive.

it bugs me that some people seem to be on ilx exclusively to make flirtatious three-word posts and flatter themselves, but that's their prerogative.

oh you!

(sorry, cheapshot)

I never have any idea if amateurist is being sarcastic.

I don't hink he does either.

Why does it bother you, Amateurist?

(assuming you're not being sarcastic, of course, which I think is probably right based on past conversations)

it's entirely plausible that i was being sarcastic.

Suggestion for a new board: I Love Being All Up In Everyone's Grill (ILBAUIEG)

I think my problem is that I like reading the jokey stuff all right, but I don't find myself compelled to "join in" as much as I do with more substantive threads -- so I don't feel as pally with everybody (cuz that's mostly where it develops). And sometimes I do think, "Everyone's being so goddamn pally today; I feel left out" -- but then I realize that I haven't really initiated any pally-ness of my own.

Would it make you feel better, amateurist, if we balanced the flirtation and self-flattery with a lot of mean-spirited-ness and self-loathing? Cause I think I might could fill those shoes.

will you or won't you 'fill those shoes'?

I think he'd feel better if we all shot ourselves in the face, but that's just the voibe.

Heavens! That's quite the vibe. I don't get that vibe at all.

I might be being sarcastic! Who can tell?

can you feel the void tonight?

This is getting very non-pally.

Hypocrite!

Me?

I have a poor memory for it but it strikes me that if ILE were ILM three years ago, we would now be talking about starting a new board for people to screw around on so that they don't sink ILE by drowning out everything else.

People need hope, people need loving
People need trust from a fellow man
People need love to make a good living
People need faith in a helping hand

Man has always wanted a woman by his side to keep him company
Women always knew that it takes a man to get matrimonial harmony
Everybody knows that a man who's feeling down wants some female sympathy
Gotta have love to carry on living
Gotta have love 'till eternity

People need hope, people need loving
People need trust from a fellow man
People need love to make a good living
People need faith in a helping hand

La la la la, la la la la-la, la la la la la la la-la la la
La la la la, la la la la-la, la la la la la la la-la la laa...

Flowers in the desert need a drop of rain like a woman needs her man
If a man's in love and his woman wants the moon
Then he'll take it down if he can
Somebody who loves you and somebody who cares
Isn't that what you'd call a friend?
Gotta have love to carry on living
Isn't it easy to understand?

People need hope, people need loving
People need trust from a fellow man
People need love to make a good living
People need faith in a helping hand

La la la la, la la la la-la, la la la la la la la-la la la
La la la la, la la la la-la, la la la la la la la-la la laa...

People need hope, people need loving
People need trust from a fellow man
People need love to make a good living
People need faith in a helping hand

La la la la, la la la la-la, la la la la la la la-la la la
La la la la, la la la la-la, la la la la la la la-la la laa...
La la la la, la la la la-la, la la la la la la la-la la la
La la la la, la la la la-la, la la la la la la la-la la laa...

People need to get the hell over themselves and enjoy it for what it is, and also for what it isn't. If it bugs you, don't read it.

Or do, if you get off on that kind of thing.

How is everything else getting drowned out? What is this 'everything else' you speak of?

how would you know it bugs you if you didn't read it?

(x-post)

meta discussions are good. if ILX bugs you, do read it.

Well there are certain threads you can avoid by reading the titles... I dunno, I just hate the bitching that crops up every so often... but I suppose I don't have to read it, do I?

Ams, are you trying to say you stick around in the hopes that it won't bug you in the future?

well i don't read much of the pally stuff bcz i don't have time. it can be OK if you're in the mood (as everything else) I suppose.

You are all completely emo.

Except me. I'm completely Elmo.

Has anyone even come out against palliness yet?

fuck you s1utsky. i need my personal space.

Hahaha! I'm sorry I'm adding to the supposed static-to-signal or whatever but goddamn, that's a good post, amateurist.

i cry

all of my posts will henceforth be followed by numerous line spaces. i think it will increase my aura of impenetrability.

but we just want to be close to you!