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Grimly, it's Jacki3's leaving shinnndig of drunken bammery on the 10th.


stet (stet), Thursday, 24 November 2005 18:49 (eighteen years ago) link

I actually meant the Cameo pub in Leith.

leigh (leigh), Thursday, 24 November 2005 19:28 (eighteen years ago) link

Yes, see 'easy to get to' is relative to where you are... So the Cameo in Leith is easy to get to for say, sailors.

The one time I've been in there I liked it, quite happy, but if others want further up town so they can get there more easily then that's fine too.

Let's make a decision tomorrow!

KeefW (kmw), Thursday, 24 November 2005 19:32 (eighteen years ago) link

I like the Leith cameo -- it doesn't smell of wee, and I shall stop trying to second-guess Leigh!

alext (alext), Thursday, 24 November 2005 19:57 (eighteen years ago) link

I've not been to the Cameo cinema bar in years, from what i can remember it's pretty tiny.

leigh (leigh), Friday, 25 November 2005 10:02 (eighteen years ago) link

They expanded through the wall into the shop next door, so it's a lot bigger and now a trendy place for Edinburgh's middle aged cinema goers to drink. It is usually very smokey though.

alext (alext), Friday, 25 November 2005 11:31 (eighteen years ago) link

Aren't they talking about ripping up the seats in the main screen and converting it to a bar?
I read something about there being a campaign to save it.

Greig (treefell), Friday, 25 November 2005 11:39 (eighteen years ago) link

It would be a shame if they turned the Cameo into a superpub, i always liked it but tend to go to Filmhouse for arthousey flicks.

leigh (leigh), Friday, 25 November 2005 11:52 (eighteen years ago) link

Swimmer One is a Wire b-side isn't it

no. that's "our swimmer".

alex: if there's no thursday-night fappery, i won't bother coming through for the gig (sorry, swimmer one) ... saturday afternoon is cool, though. hurrah. wherever we may end up.

grimly fiendish (grimlord), Friday, 25 November 2005 13:42 (eighteen years ago) link

Ah, right you are. I'm actually semi-glad I got it wrong, unless getting it wrong is cool in ILX land, in which case I would have liked to have got it right. Or vice versa.

I can't see the hordes that will attend this fitting into the Cameo cinema bar, but then I also sympathise with those who don't live in Edinburgh and don't want to go looking for the Cameo bar.

Here's a suggestion - how's about the (Car) Wash on the mound? It's easy to get to for travellers.

KeefW (kmw), Friday, 25 November 2005 18:27 (eighteen years ago) link

NO NOT THE CAR WASH IT SUCKS COCKS IN HELL.

i'd be well up for the cameo bar. it'd be like a homecoming. of sorts.

grimly fiendish (grimlord), Friday, 25 November 2005 18:28 (eighteen years ago) link

Simon, you'll have to keep up... Which Cameo bar?

KeefW (kmw), Friday, 25 November 2005 18:47 (eighteen years ago) link

I'm just going to meet Ath0le in the Car Wash shortly. What's so bad about it?

KeefW (kmw), Friday, 25 November 2005 18:51 (eighteen years ago) link

It's not particularly horrid. There are just many better places.

Kays Bar? The barman has a waxed Dali type moustache.

hmmm (hmmm), Saturday, 26 November 2005 13:48 (eighteen years ago) link

keith, sorry: i meant the cinema one in my post, although i was being slightly tongue-in-cheek. i don't think it'd be entirely practical.

i haven't been in the car wash since 1994, but i remember it as a vile seventies theme pub populated by second-year english-lit undergraduates in silly hats talking about how they were taking up the didgeridoo.

grimly fiendish (grimlord), Saturday, 26 November 2005 13:57 (eighteen years ago) link

Simon, the biggest problem it has for me now is that it isn't a '70s theme pub. It's been done up, at least twice since then. It did strike me there last night you might've hated it as it was right next to your halls.

Neil, Kay's Bar is a great idea, and the bloke is funny; like the bar man in Withnail and I, but I'm fairly sure it's been something else for about four years now. Come to think of it, maybe I'm thinking of another place. I think it's called Indigo now. Ah! No, I'm thinking of Aubrey's, which had a similar landlord and was in a similar place.

OK. We should vote. The voting closes Monday at 8 o'clock. The (practical) suggestions are:

- The Cameo in Leith
- The Car Wash
- Kay's Bar in the new town

KeefW (kmw), Saturday, 26 November 2005 17:01 (eighteen years ago) link

Kay's looks good. It would seem that i've agreed to dog sit on the evening of 10/12 so i might not be able to stay for that long.

leigh (leigh), Monday, 28 November 2005 09:36 (eighteen years ago) link

central is good, and Wash is not good (difficult table layout?), so my vote for Kays I s'pose.

alext (alext), Monday, 28 November 2005 10:53 (eighteen years ago) link

Kays.

hmmm (hmmm), Monday, 28 November 2005 11:27 (eighteen years ago) link

Where is Jamaica St btw?

leigh (leigh), Monday, 28 November 2005 11:47 (eighteen years ago) link

Dunno.

alext (alext), Monday, 28 November 2005 12:01 (eighteen years ago) link

If you're interested: http://www.savethecameo.org/

beanz (beanz), Monday, 28 November 2005 12:03 (eighteen years ago) link

isn't jamaica st up in the second part of the new town?

RJG (RJG), Monday, 28 November 2005 12:06 (eighteen years ago) link

yes: it's a really cool area. i used to go walking round there admiring the buildings a lot. kay's sounds fantastic to me.

what sort of time are we doing this thang?

grimly fiendish (grimlord), Monday, 28 November 2005 12:23 (eighteen years ago) link

Kays bar is here

hmmm (hmmm), Monday, 28 November 2005 12:31 (eighteen years ago) link

Oh yes I have been there I think. I drank too much.

3pm was mentioned at some point, wasn't it?

alext (alext), Monday, 28 November 2005 12:45 (eighteen years ago) link

was it?

i can be there for about 4ish. or so.

grimly fiendish (grimlord), Monday, 28 November 2005 12:53 (eighteen years ago) link

Three pm would be ideal as it'd give me plenty time to get back to give Jed his dinner and evening walk. I'd better not drink too much as drunken dog walking is not to be recommended.

leigh (leigh), Monday, 28 November 2005 13:06 (eighteen years ago) link

Conversation whilst watching (I later found out) Swimmer One the other day:

Me: "Do you know what this band are called?"
Bloke sitting next to me: "SHITE"
Me: "Is that actually the name of the band, or just your opinion?"
Bloke: "My opinion"
Me: "It would be good if you got to name every band you saw. I get the feeling most of them would be called 'SHITE'"
Bloke: "Yes, they would. Why, what would you call this band?"
Me: "I would called them 'I'm quite enjoying this'"
Bloke (giving me a funny look): "Oh"

Ally C (Ally C), Monday, 28 November 2005 13:35 (eighteen years ago) link

What did he think of Smoosh?

hmmm (hmmm), Monday, 28 November 2005 17:34 (eighteen years ago) link

I didn't think it prudent to ask.

Ally C (Ally C), Monday, 28 November 2005 18:07 (eighteen years ago) link

Cool, Kays it is then. It's just off the bottom of Frederick street at St.Stephen's cathedral/churchy thing.

KeefW (kmw), Monday, 28 November 2005 18:11 (eighteen years ago) link

Talking of smoosh, a conversation at Somerfield made me laugh yesterday... Someone went up to the Deli counter and asked "Do you sell Smash?"

KeefW (kmw), Monday, 28 November 2005 18:12 (eighteen years ago) link

ha! ally C, i wish i could tell swimmer one that story.

but they'd cry.

i might wait until andrew stands me up for lunch again or something :)

grimly fiendish (grimlord), Monday, 28 November 2005 18:13 (eighteen years ago) link

When i think about it i've passed Kay's loads of times and wondered what it was like.

leigh (leigh), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 10:15 (eighteen years ago) link

*DERAIL*
Have any of you ever commuted between Glasgow and Edinburgh? I live a 20-minute walk from Queen Steet (or a five-minute bus) and I'm looking at a job on Broughton Street Lane, which looks like it's quite near Waverley. Would you do it? Would you pay 2,500 smackers for a season ticket or drive? I have a car and live to the East of the city centre, very close to the M8 so that's an option too.

Mädchen (Madchen), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 15:01 (eighteen years ago) link

For a variety of reasons, I cannot/would rather not move house.

Mädchen (Madchen), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 15:02 (eighteen years ago) link

jesus, mädchen, don't do the M8 every day. it is soul-destroying.

i commuted from marchmont (15 minutes' swift walk from waverley) to duke street for three months back in 1997, and i have to say i wasn't very happy. but then i moved to glasgow and i was even less happy ... which made me realise the reasons for my unhappiness were nothing to do with the commute and more to do with me being a knob about a girl :)

once i'd got that sorted, i went out and got whammed and all was well again.

anyway: alext has been doing the big commute for at least a year. over to him.

grimly fiendish (grimlord), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 15:07 (eighteen years ago) link

Lucy,

If you're going to do it, that's probably about as easy as it gets; it's just 5 minutes from Waverley and you're quite close to Queen Street. I know people who live in Houston (near Paisley that is!) that commute every day.

Parking is not good in Edinburgh, certainly in the city centre. You can park in and around Bellvue, but it's not easy and you'd have to get in early. I would avoid driving, unless you're likely to be in work very early and don't mind a ten minute walk or so from where you park.

KeefW (kmw), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 15:13 (eighteen years ago) link

The Broughton Street area has really good shops too. Crombies sausages are stuff of legend.

leigh (leigh), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 15:16 (eighteen years ago) link

I do lean towards the train, definitely. I'd read an absolute ton - something I miss very much now that I drive to work - and also become one of those terrible women who trowels on her make-up each morning and spills powder in her neighbour's lap. So Keith, if I got the 8 o'clock train, I could be at work for 9 o'clock?

There's a job going at my current place of employment which I want a lot more, but I handed in my application a fortnight ago and they reckon it'll be another 1-2 weeks before they have a shortlist for interview ffs! My current contract finishes at the end of December and I don't really want to start the new year as a temp so that's why I'm looking elsewhere.

x-post: is it near Harvey Nicks, or am I looking at the map upside down?

Mädchen (Madchen), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 15:20 (eighteen years ago) link

Cool, Kays it is then. It's just off the bottom of Frederick street at St.Stephen's cathedral/churchy thing.

no that is a different pub (and i think it's Howe St/Circus Lane corner yr thinking of)

Kay's is, according to hmmm's link, on Jamaica St - ie. in the area bounded by Howe St, India St, Heriot Row & Royal Circus

Snowy Mann (rdmanston), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 15:20 (eighteen years ago) link

Commuting by car into Edinburgh is a soul destroying task.
The train is much better, if still not exactly fun.
Also as the Glasgow-Edinburgh express is the flagship route, Scotrail do pretty much everything they can to make sure it runs to timetable.
6 carriages every time, too, so a seat is pretty much guaranteed.

Greig (treefell), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 15:20 (eighteen years ago) link

BSL is near enough to harvey nicks regardless of what way up you hold the map

Snowy Mann (rdmanston), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 15:23 (eighteen years ago) link

8 o'clock for 9 o'clock sounds pretty reasonable yeah. Train takes about 50 minutes, so yeah, give or take the train being late.

It's five minutes walk to Harvey Nicks. It's just down from Lewis's. Leigh's right; that area's dead nice. I'm moving to near there soon.

Snowy - OK... Confuses me a bit right enough; I walk past there every day to go to work! I'll open my eyes tomorrow.

KeefW (kmw), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 15:24 (eighteen years ago) link

The train never runs to timetable. Never ever. It's always between three and eight minutes late, so much so that I'm surprised they don't just allocate it more time on the schedules and admit what everyone knows i.e. that it is slower than it was ten years ago (due to increased frequency, so there may be a silver lining).

I have commuted to Glasgow since October 2002. It is totally soul-destroying and horrible. I only have to do it for about four more days thank fuck. Part of the problem for me is that I have to walk up Leith Walk, get the train, get the world's most rubbish tube train to Hillhead and then walk up the hill to walk, which takes 1 hour 40 mins. on average, which is 3 hours 20 minutes of my day wasted.

alext (alext), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 15:29 (eighteen years ago) link

I don't quite know why, but reading that made me smile.

Mädchen (Madchen), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 15:33 (eighteen years ago) link

What because of Alex's misfortune?!

KeefW (kmw), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 15:35 (eighteen years ago) link

I think it's more because he only has to do it for four more days. And because, ironically, that's exactly how I felt when I left behind the London commute. Hearty ha.

Mädchen (Madchen), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 15:38 (eighteen years ago) link

I actually 'commute' for 1 hr 10 minutes a day, but it's just walking, which I like. Listening to walkman. Walking and Rocking! Having said that, once I move house, it'll be more like 10 minutes to work. Hooray for getting out of bed at 9:30!

KeefW (kmw), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 15:40 (eighteen years ago) link


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