[ADMIN] Meta bitching - enough.

And for what it's worth, ILX seemed WAY nastier in '05 than it does now...

-- contenderizer, Tuesday, 20 May 2008 22:16 (30 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

This is absolutely right, there was a lot of nastiness and a lot of people left, or stayed but their mood markedly different.

(fwiw, I wasn't involved either way)

i'm often seeing threads on 77 (and other sub boards) and thinking 'wish this was on ILE so more people would read/post' (and with so many people able to access 77 now, that compounds it). not that this is particularly relevant to this thread i know.

a little bitchy post here or there is one thing but actual thread-starting has always seemed over the line to me and it's only certain types who seem to do it

There is a wider audience for content in a thread title, assuming the thread stays in the mix long enough, than content in a thread, and privileging a poster to call for the deletion of a thread that names them is an easy standard for a mod to enforce, but otherwise it's a formal distinction that may allow content that is equally or more offensive - everyone knows that the problem is not limited to 'a little bitch post here and there' - to proliferate on any other thread.

seems it's up to you to bust this thing wide open blueski

ok confession time guys - ive been given a secret bord by the mods which includes beta version of a lot of the requests weve all had for a long time: admin log, numerical polls etc. best feature is probably the cupcake button!

sorry gabb i'm not sure what your point is there
likewise tremendoid i'm not quite following you bruv

when people say ILX was nastier in '05, what examples spring to mind for them?

Did anyone else have to read this twice?

xxxpost

Yes to cupcake button.

I'm going to go eat cupcakes.

yum!

i read it .5 and gave up bamc

Who is this "ILX System" character and why does he keep "automatically" bumping threads?

sorry gabb i'm not sure what your point is there

my point is that a thread naming a poster who calls for its deletion (and we'll presume it's not simply because they are modest) can't be presumed to be inherently more objectionable/ill-willed/offensive/harassing than a post or posts directed at the poster in any other thread

this thread is getting snarky. pls to delete cupcake posts.

a history of meta threads on Curt1s's borad

APRIL 2:
~~~~let it grow~~~~
names to invite that require serious reflection

APRIL 3:
people who aren't getting in here

APRIL 8:
thread of people who should unequivocally not be invited to borad 77

I recently used the word bitching and only experienced remorse afterwards. I was too tired immediately afterward, but it jarred to say it.

A search for a common word resulted in bitching. How sad for my brain.

curt1s you missed out a couple on specific ilxors (surely these count as meta)

i think of cUrtis as the jesus of ilx

(haha someone just pointed out to me it's an LJ thread of mine as got linked to noize is the source of all hate ever, oh well, i am a dick)

meta threads currently on new answers page of 77:

"Alex in NYC is personally responsible for the gentrification of lower Manhattan"
what is up with deeznuts
thoughts on the pinefox
thread of people who should be invited to 77
kind of lol but mostly sad
thread of people who should unequivocally not be invited to borad 77
what happened to the ilx roxy graph thing
link to your old-skool sockpuppets
gabbneb and suzy would make a good couple
good anglophiles bad anglophiles

i think his point was that it got increasingly nastier as more ppl came along

i also think of of cRutis as the jesus of ilx

mark you can't blame the host when one of their friends storms in blind drunk and attacks some people who weren't invited.

I would like to thumbs-up this thread and the sentiment behind it.

I honestly don't give a hot shit whatever personal beefs anyone has had in the past, and I suspect I'm not alone in that. One of the most important aspects of adulthood is learning to GET OVER IT. Let go. Realize the stupidity and futility of what you're doing. And then go for a walk.

party host i mean xp

I think that all of ILX except some (but not all) admin and mod content should be transparent to all users

o plz no ilxor would ever get wasted and attack!

cupcake button?

Everybody stop and just listen to the HOOS.

(except mods)

gabbneb and suzy would make a good couple!!!!

Everybody stop and just listen to the HOOS.

-- El Tomboto, Wednesday, 21 May 2008 00:14 (10 seconds ago) Bookmark Link

Should be a disco anthem

tom and hoos would make a good couple!!!

Anyway I'm proud that this hasn't turned into an utter clusterfuck so far and hope we can keep having a vaguely reasonable discussion. but inasmuch as highlighting unacceptable posts, well

Various other communities that have lasted longer than ours have done so by harsh moderation of their open areas while maintaining a restricted repository for crapflooders and douchebags to have their fun in. I'm not against this route, but we've failed so far because 77 and Ask Chaki keep cross-pollinating and us mods haven't laid down the law consistently.

I hope we can repair that situation.

Hint: there are two boards and a verb mentioned. Don't make it three boards and a verb, please.

WATERBOARD

That one's harsh.

crazy thread

the WATERBORAD is secret hush, we don't speak of it

surely it's completely fucking obvious that 77 was a bad idea by now?

77 was a fascinating social experiment!

is there really a thread somewhere called 'thoughts on the pinefox'? what on earth could it contain?

ilx was irritating and infuriating in the past, but what I have said about its changes and development remains true.

Mark S is correct to say that this thread is not an attempt to restore ilx to a previous state. I myself said it couldn't be restored. but I think Mark knows, really, that ilx was better before. (one reason among many: he used to post extensively on it!)

Dom P says that people who used to post on ilx and now don't are 'poison' who have been drained from the system. this seems rather like a diseased, malodorous rat blaming a koala for spreading the bubonic plague. examples of old posters who don't, or hardly, post anymore: Tim Hopkins, Starry, Alix, Carmody, Stevie T, Geordie Racer, Martin Skidmore - the list could go on.

surely it's completely fucking obvious that 77 was a bad idea by now?

-- caek, Wednesday, 21 May 2008 00:24 (1 minute ago) Bookmark Link

Secret boards aren't viable, but at least we know it for definite now.

DON'T BLAME THE KOALAS! xp

o_0 at borad 77 threads! The dating suggestions are especially fabulous because I know they come from people who are really, really successful in their personal relationships.

I've been invited to 77 but I'm opposed to invite-only boards and that's a pretty good show for WHY.

Well yes, that's why we're at this point.

At any rate, the idea is that we all have about a week's grace period to discuss and understand what Pash and the rest of the mods have put forth.
I'm not going to go down the list and start looking to kick people tonight, if you were wondering.

I totally agree with the suggestion in the OP.

Pashmina and TOMBOT's statements of philosophy are those of a community I still want to be a part of. I imagine all the stuff Pashmina listed is a huge turn-off to potential new posters. I think we benefit form new posters.

77 is nothing like Ask Chaki. Ask Chaki is public.

I have always thought 77 would end in one of two ways: (1) total deletion, or (2) being made totally public.

I favor #2. People can decide for themselves if it's all in good fun.

I don't think it's right to make people beg for an invite to see what other posters write about them on 77.

Reposting things that were originally written for another audience should be quite familiar to us by now. If anyone has any qualms about unhiding anything on 77, that should tell you something about 77.

ilx is the disease pf, and we are all its happy rats at some time or other -- i stopped posting much bcz (a) my mum wz dyin and (b) it wz takin up WAY too much time, and i needed to get other stuff done

i miss the weird surge of it, that's as present now as ever, and isn't about friends here or friends elsewhere

This is all wonderful news as the creepy zing gang have almost exhausted anything slightly embarrassing I've previously posted on the internet!

almost!

One of the most important aspects of adulthood is learning to GET OVER IT. Let go. Realize the stupidity and futility of what you're doing. And then go for a walk.

Blame the "victims", then? I'm confused as to who this prescriptive is aimed at...

who is in the creepy zing gang?