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most idiots don't secure their wireless networks, let this be a lesson to you when you set up your own!

― cutty (mcutt), Thursday, 12 August 2004 13:43 (twenty years ago) link

or not set yours up -- free internet

― Red Panda Sanskrit (ex machina), Thursday, 12 August 2004 13:44 (twenty years ago) link

#202477 +(2405)- [X]

(Mootar) morons.
(Mootar) these people who live in my apartment complex are connected to my wireless
(Mootar) they must think they're super-cool hackers by breaking into my completely unsecure network
(Mootar) unfortunatly, the connection works both ways
(Mootar) long story short, they now have loads of horse porn on their computer

― g-kit (g-kit), Thursday, 12 August 2004 13:45 (twenty years ago) link

Does it work, Nick?

― Markelby (Mark C), Thursday, 12 August 2004 13:46 (twenty years ago) link

i think it would be funny to scam people stealing my internet by logging all their passwords, instant messages, email, etc.

― Red Panda Sanskrit (ex machina), Thursday, 12 August 2004 13:47 (twenty years ago) link

I don't understand what to do in order to use it for high-speed access, though. I mean, under my Airport menu bar thing, it has 'belkin54g' ticked, but other than that, it doesn't seem to be doing anything. It's not in my Finder or anything, not that I want to look at their files or anything.

― Alba (Alba), Thursday, 12 August 2004 13:47 (twenty years ago) link

our linksys wireless router is being a pain in the arse, I'm fearing for ever connecting to broadband

― Porkpie (porkpie), Thursday, 12 August 2004 13:48 (twenty years ago) link

1) uh, use the internet connect wizard to connect to their wireless connection
2) you are on the internet
3) profit

― Red Panda Sanskrit (ex machina), Thursday, 12 August 2004 13:49 (twenty years ago) link

i have a toshiba laptop and sometimes i connect to the internet using lynskeys but other times it doesnt connect. i use the connect wizard, why does it switch back and forth like this?

― kephm, Thursday, 12 August 2004 13:53 (twenty years ago) link

why does nobody listen to me?
HORSE PR0N!!!11

― g-kit (g-kit), Thursday, 12 August 2004 13:53 (twenty years ago) link

i think we live in different apartments

― kephm, Thursday, 12 August 2004 13:56 (twenty years ago) link

Ah, OK. I went to Internet Connect and changed it from 'Internal modem' to 'Airport'. Then I tried accessing the internet. Didn't seem to connect to anything. I guess that means no free lunch, then. Does this mean they have no internet connection on their wireless network, that they lock out unauthorised users, or that I needed to change some other setting? The signal strength meter was only about a third full, if that makes any difference.

― Alba (Alba), Thursday, 12 August 2004 13:56 (twenty years ago) link

I'm sure Apple's help has a troubleshooting guide.

― Red Panda Sanskrit (ex machina), Thursday, 12 August 2004 13:59 (twenty years ago) link

You're right. This was a somewhat frivolous request for help borne of excitement at magical things happening somewhere in my street.

― Alba (Alba), Thursday, 12 August 2004 14:01 (twenty years ago) link

alba, sometimes just moving rooms makes a difference with the connection.

― kephm, Thursday, 12 August 2004 14:01 (twenty years ago) link

you should check if you actually got an IP address, etc via DHCP

― Red Panda Sanskrit (ex machina), Thursday, 12 August 2004 14:04 (twenty years ago) link

Oh, it's not a laptop so I can't be bothered moving it.

Sorry Jon, I don't know what that means.

― Alba (Alba), Thursday, 12 August 2004 14:08 (twenty years ago) link

Oh - hang on, I underestimate myself.

Under Network Preferences, I discover I do indeed have an Airport IP address that is different to the one from my dialup connection.

― Alba (Alba), Thursday, 12 August 2004 14:10 (twenty years ago) link

It says "169.254.123.104 (Self-assigned)"

― Alba (Alba), Thursday, 12 August 2004 14:11 (twenty years ago) link

self assigned = your computer tried to generate one that could feasibly work but most likely won't

try to setup airport to get a DHCP address and then bring it up again

― Red Panda Sanskrit (ex machina), Thursday, 12 August 2004 14:13 (twenty years ago) link

How do I do that? Sorry to be useless - feel free to give up on me if you want.

― Alba (Alba), Thursday, 12 August 2004 14:15 (twenty years ago) link

(copied from ILM)

Ha, I've got a laptop question for anyone kind enough to help out. I got my editing studio set up last night with my PC laptop (Cubase, Reason, external hard drive, no problems).
However, I've got some studio monitors with XLR and 1/4" outs and no cable. Do I just need to get an adapter to plug them into the 1/8" headphone jack of my laptop, and is this the best way to do things? I wasn't going to buy an external sound card because I'm just planning on doing editing, not recording, on this setup. I just want to make sure the 1/8" laptop connection will be okay for quality/power.

I'm computer-retarded btw.

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 12 August 2004 14:16 (twenty years ago) link

xpost to airport question -- are you in OS X?

http://web.mit.edu/is/services/network/dhcp/wireless/macos10.3.html

has a bit telling you how to set it to DHCP

― Red Panda Sanskrit (ex machina), Thursday, 12 August 2004 14:18 (twenty years ago) link

Mario&Yuko (and maybe Alba too) -- try going to Active Network Ports in the Network preferences and disabling, applying, then reenabling, the wireless connection.

― Paul Eater (eater), Thursday, 12 August 2004 14:19 (twenty years ago) link

I went through all that, Jon. All the setting were already as dictated (I'm on 10.2.8 rather than 10.3, but it all looked the same). I moved Airport above Internal Modem in the list of Network Port Configurations too.

When I open Internet Connect and switch to Airport, I get 'Status: Status not available' at the bottom, instead of the 'Connected to blah blah', send/receive bars and IP address reading that I get with Internal Modem.

― Alba (Alba), Thursday, 12 August 2004 14:28 (twenty years ago) link

ALBA. hello.

what EXACTLY happens when you click on belkin54g from the pulldown airport menu?

― cutty (mcutt), Thursday, 12 August 2004 14:34 (twenty years ago) link

because it's either supposed to tell you you have to enter a password, automatically connect you, or tell you that you tried to join a restricted network.

there should be no other configuring necessary.

― cutty (mcutt), Thursday, 12 August 2004 14:35 (twenty years ago) link

cutty, I think there's no DHCP server so it "guesses" an ip after it joins the network

― Red Panda Sanskrit (ex machina), Thursday, 12 August 2004 14:40 (twenty years ago) link

cutty - nothing happens as such. I'm not sure what you mean by 'click on' though. I mean, as I say, belkin54g has a tick next to it.

― Alba (Alba), Thursday, 12 August 2004 15:20 (twenty years ago) link

disconnect it and reconnect

― Red Panda Sanskrit (ex machina), Thursday, 12 August 2004 15:20 (twenty years ago) link

Yeah, I've done that. I mean if I *did* want to look at what was on the belin54g network's servers, how would I even do that. If I go to Finder, it's not there, and if I choose 'Connect to server' there it searches without finding anything.

― Alba (Alba), Thursday, 12 August 2004 15:23 (twenty years ago) link

Holy shit - it suddenly works. What was that horsepr0n thing again?

― Alba (Alba), Thursday, 12 August 2004 22:08 (twenty years ago) link

This is so freaky. 50 kb/s and I've paid nothing. Err.. how likely is it that the owner of this wi-fi network is going to find out and do something bad to me?

― Alba (Alba), Thursday, 12 August 2004 22:14 (twenty years ago) link

haha, maybe I should turn mine on and see what happens.

― RJG (RJG), Thursday, 12 August 2004 22:21 (twenty years ago) link

What shall I do? What's a good internet radio station?

― Alba (Alba), Thursday, 12 August 2004 22:30 (twenty years ago) link

just enjoy your free internet.

― cutty (mcutt), Thursday, 12 August 2004 22:51 (twenty years ago) link

your on a desktop, so the joy of internetting in bed is not an option.

― cutty (mcutt), Thursday, 12 August 2004 22:52 (twenty years ago) link

YOU'RE.

― cutty (mcutt), Thursday, 12 August 2004 22:52 (twenty years ago) link

The joy of wetting the bed is still a possibility though.

― Alba (Alba), Thursday, 12 August 2004 22:59 (twenty years ago) link

OK, so our broadband coonection finally seems to be working, however, we've got a linksys wireless router and a linksys card, only about twenty metres apart with no real big walls in the way either, and the best signal I can get is 3 bars out of ten on my b'band monitor :o(

downloads are running at only about 2.3 kbps, which is bleeding slower than when I was on dial-up. Anyone got any ideas (apart from running a cable the length of the house)

― Porkpie (porkpie), Sunday, 15 August 2004 10:57 (twenty years ago) link

are you sure you are successfully connecting to your router as opposed to someone elses nearby? that would explain the poor signal.

― cutty (mcutt), Sunday, 15 August 2004 11:43 (twenty years ago) link

things you should do to your wireless router:

1. change the name from "linksys" or "netgear"
2. turn off SSID broadcast
3. enable WEP
4. enable MAC filtering
5. password protect router from generic ADMIN password

if you have a WRT54G you can install better firmware from sveasoft.com which will boost your signal, give you bandwidth management options, and a multitude of other cool shit.

― cutty (mcutt), Sunday, 15 August 2004 11:45 (twenty years ago) link

cool, thanks Cutty, it's definitely ours, I just moved the pooter out of the cupboard and bosted the signal to 5 bars and am getting a better download now, much better in fact.

― Porkpie (porkpie), Sunday, 15 August 2004 11:47 (twenty years ago) link

and now a dumb set of questions - that stuff you tell me to do, (changing password and changing name apart, I can see why to do that) what does it do/why is it beneficial?

― Porkpie (porkpie), Sunday, 15 August 2004 11:51 (twenty years ago) link

porkpie, do you live in a densely populated area? basically these are precautions against someone else hopping on your network, stealing bandwidth, and generally being capable of doing BAD THINGS to your computer/network/etc if they really wanted to.

― cutty (mcutt), Sunday, 15 August 2004 11:54 (twenty years ago) link

My free wireless internet seems to be very intermittent. The network is always there, with decent enough signal strength, but half the time I get stuck on that DHCP self-assigned IP address shit. I googled the problem and it seems to be quite common, even when one isn't robbing someone else's connection, which makes me a bit worries about this whole wireless thing when I actually get my own ADSL next month.

― Alba (Alba), Sunday, 15 August 2004 12:12 (twenty years ago) link

Cutty, we are yes, but I can't trace any other servers/routers. What is WEP for instance and the ssid? The router set-up says to be careful over switching these.

The speeds are cracking at the moment, which is good, we just have to leave the box out of the cupboard.

― Vicky (Vicky), Sunday, 15 August 2004 12:27 (twenty years ago) link

two weeks pass...

I have a cable modem connection, yet when I share files via slsk or AIM, etc., the transfer speeds are incredibly slow. What am I doing wrong?

― adam. (nordicskilla), Sunday, 29 August 2004 21:11 (twenty years ago) link

help this man out

― s1ocki (slutsky), Sunday, 29 August 2004 21:14 (twenty years ago) link

help me to help YOU!

― adam. (nordicskilla), Sunday, 29 August 2004 21:22 (twenty years ago) link

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