― don, Tuesday, 30 August 2005 21:51 (nineteen years ago) link
― donut gon' nut (donut), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 21:51 (nineteen years ago) link
xpost right stence but you and jody don't jump up to blast anyone who suggests pat robertson and jerry falwell might be assholes.
― j blount (papa la bas), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 21:52 (nineteen years ago) link
http://us.news3.yimg.com/us.i2.yimg.com/p/ap/20050830/capt.capm10208301856.bush__capm102.jpg
I attribute this more to stupidity than apathy, for what it's worth.
― Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 21:52 (nineteen years ago) link
i'll admit that i feel lucky to be in a city where "acts of god" like this are rare if not nonexistent, but we're still a big-league target for terrorism obv.
― ian quiche-lorraine (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 21:54 (nineteen years ago) link
What part of the Southern Shoreboard is "rural"? This is a stupid fucking argument. You can't go across any section of shoreline in the US without bumping into a city or vacation destination.
― Alan Conceicao (Alan Conceicao), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 21:54 (nineteen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 21:54 (nineteen years ago) link
anyway new york is just as susceptible to hurricanes (see: 1820s) so laugh away when it happens here, just don't expect me to not call you an asshole then, too.
― hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 21:55 (nineteen years ago) link
― Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 21:55 (nineteen years ago) link
― The Original Jimmy Mod: Kind Warrior (The Famous Jimmy Mod), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 21:58 (nineteen years ago) link
http://news.bbc.co.uk/nol/shared/spl/hi/pop_ups/05/americas_katrina_hits_us/img/8.jpg
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 21:59 (nineteen years ago) link
look. just please stop it with your "northerners drive like this" shtick. your attitude is exactly as smug as the attitude you're criticizing.
we have red states, you have blue states, we have centers of conservatism and fundamentalist religion, you have "liberal" tourist meccas. we even have uneducated poor people and some of them aren't even white!!
― ian quiche-lorraine (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 22:00 (nineteen years ago) link
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 22:02 (nineteen years ago) link
― j blount (papa la bas), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 22:03 (nineteen years ago) link
― hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 22:04 (nineteen years ago) link
― ian quiche-lorraine (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 22:04 (nineteen years ago) link
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 22:04 (nineteen years ago) link
― charltonlido (gareth), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 22:05 (nineteen years ago) link
― hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 22:06 (nineteen years ago) link
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 22:07 (nineteen years ago) link
This is pretty much exactly where I live (Mag and State, a block from Webster) and very close to where Kyle/Fetchboy indicated he would be staying. So that's a slight silver lining for the shit-covered stormcloud of today.
― adam (adam), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 22:07 (nineteen years ago) link
i am disgusted by both of those "commentators," and i am disgusted when people do it on the left to those in the south. WHERE DID I SAY FUCKING OTHERWISE YOU FUCKING MORON?
sorry if i don't find one of the best cities in america underwater, some of the poorer parts of america devestated, and god knows how many people dead 'hilarious' or 'justified' because some of their elected officials are republican. i'm an asshole that way.
HELLO YOU DUMBSHIT WHERE DO YOU THINK MY FAMILY'S FROM??!??!? WHERE DO YOU THINK MY GRANDFATHER'S BURIED??!?!?
― hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 22:08 (nineteen years ago) link
― hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 22:09 (nineteen years ago) link
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 22:09 (nineteen years ago) link
― hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 22:10 (nineteen years ago) link
― ian quiche-lorraine (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 22:10 (nineteen years ago) link
No. New England (or really anyplace about Virginia) doesn't get many hurricanes compared with the south and Gulf Coast..
However, they do show up on occasion.
― Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 22:17 (nineteen years ago) link
― Rock Hardy (Rock Hardy), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 22:18 (nineteen years ago) link
― j blount (papa la bas), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 22:19 (nineteen years ago) link
― Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 22:19 (nineteen years ago) link
― ian quiche-lorraine (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 22:21 (nineteen years ago) link
― Rock Hardy (Rock Hardy), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 22:23 (nineteen years ago) link
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 22:25 (nineteen years ago) link
i'm getting really sick of these talking heads lambasting people who didn't evacuate.
― j blount (papa la bas), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 22:27 (nineteen years ago) link
The issue is the water, from what I understand. Hurricanes form in the South Atlantic, starting off the shores of Africa and moving west, until eventually forming and then generally gunning into the Carribbean. Cyclones almost never form in the North Atlantic, due to the cold temperature of the water, and those that do hit the northeast are storms that typically tiptoe up the coastline, pushed back by the prevailing winds and fronts (which also typically makes them fairly weak hurricanes, in comparison to the Category 4s and 5s that land in the Southeast and Gulf).
― Alan Conceicao (Alan Conceicao), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 22:28 (nineteen years ago) link
who else is watching this snake guy on cnn?
― j blount (papa la bas), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 22:31 (nineteen years ago) link
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 22:32 (nineteen years ago) link
Andrew?
― The Original Jimmy Mod: Kind Warrior (The Famous Jimmy Mod), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 22:35 (nineteen years ago) link
― j blount (papa la bas), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 22:36 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alan Conceicao (Alan Conceicao), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 22:37 (nineteen years ago) link
parts of the northeast are susceptible to big storms -- the eastern end of long island usually gets battered pretty hard, and so does the jersey shore. not as extreme as the southeast, but there is a lot of flood damage, felled trees, etc. many of those towns (esp. in jersey) are working-class beach communities with the same flimsy-houses-on-stilts that you see in the south.
― ian quiche-lorraine (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 22:40 (nineteen years ago) link
i was worried about that. using sandbags to close a 200-foot hole in a flooding levee seems like a herculean job.
― ian quiche-lorraine (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 22:44 (nineteen years ago) link
In 1955 Diane, even though it was down to a category 1, dumped so much rain that it caused extreme damage in Connecticut. Among other things, it washed away the new top soil in the yard in front of the house my parents had just had built. So forever after we had scrawny, scraggly grass compared to our neighbors. We'd lament this every now and then, but mainly didn't take the lawn all that seriously.
But yeah, the Caribbean and gulf get the brunt of the hurricanes. For some reason, Florida hadn't been hit for something like 30 years before Andrew. Now it seems to get hit once a month during the season.
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 22:44 (nineteen years ago) link
― ian quiche-lorraine (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 22:47 (nineteen years ago) link
We've all read how the water would naturally drain into the bayous if the levees weren't there, etc
― Thea (Thea), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 22:52 (nineteen years ago) link
To put it another way: if you're in a space ship, and there's a hole causing all the air to be sucked out, you don't try to make a bigger hole to make the vaccum stop from sucking out everything. Your only option is to try and plug the hole.
(BTW, its now being said that the flooding shouldn't be 12-15 ft, but more like 9. still pretty bad.)
― Alan Conceicao (Alan Conceicao), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 22:56 (nineteen years ago) link
― Rock Hardy (Rock Hardy), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 23:02 (nineteen years ago) link
― ian quiche-lorraine (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 23:02 (nineteen years ago) link
― ian quiche-lorraine (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 23:03 (nineteen years ago) link
― j blount (papa la bas), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 23:05 (nineteen years ago) link