New Apple Lust Objects for 2010 and onward

Yeah, gbx's makes more sense in a way, in that new stuff will be added to the iPod by default. The other way, you constantly have to be adding stuff to it (unless you have an "added in last three months" playlist synced as well (which is what I do).

Suppose it depends on whether you're more likely to want new stuff added or not added to the iPod.

what i did is write an applescript to sb noobs directly from itunes

Yeah, gbx's makes more sense in a way, in that new stuff will be added to the iPod by default.

no, that's what my way does. gbx's way you have to add new stuff to the ipod playlist. gbx sucks.

What if you just want shuffle your whole library? Easier to hit that button than to make a playlist.

sometimes i make a playlist and call it like 'my demonic black metal playlist'

oh i see, caek. i guess maybe that's more elegant than syncing a "new music" playlist and a "ipod" playlist, but i rarely ever actually listen to music on my iphone, so most of the stuff on it is purposely selected for, like, parties at other people's houses or w/e

xp hey wait a minute

yeah, the kind of gardening aa is doing or i'm suggesting only makes sense when your ipod is like 2/3 the size of your full collection. obviously if it's bigger than your collection you just sync the lot. and if it's like 5% the size of your collection you'll either just say "give me a bunch or random songs" or "sync from this little ipod playlist i manually created" or "sync 'my demonic black metal playlist'"

dude u have one of those too! *hi5*

no, that's what my way does. gbx's way you have to add new stuff to the ipod playlist. gbx sucks.

Yeah - sorry. I got your two names mixed up. I meant yours was better!

the beatles are the george lucas of musicians. discuss.

Maybe if "Let It Be...Naked" had permanently replaced the Phil Spector mix in the catalog. Also thankfully they havent gone into Revolver and overdubbed rap beats or something to stay up-to-date. "Love" is kinda silly but it's not like they put it out and said "This release makes 'Abbey Road' obsolete and we are eliminating that original record from the catalog."

They're kinda the opposite of George Lucas, actually. Imagine Star Wars only available on VHS until this year, released on DVD with no 'Special Edition' stuff or bonus content whatsoever.

seriously, the whole point of unchecking is to say "I don't want to sync this" "I don't want to hear this" "I don't want this to come up on shuffle". That's what it's for!

My itunes library outgrew my ipod a long time ago. I manually sync it. I throw in some playlists, throw in some records I want to hear. When I get bored with those, I delete them and put other stuff on.

yep. point is you should only uncheck a song if you never want to hear it on any device other than the mac itself.

*hi5*

<3 saturday nights on ilx when my phd thesis is due in 12 days

if it weren't for the last minute, etc...

s1oc there's more, I'll reply later when I has a kbd

i don't understand people who auto-synch their music libraries.

they're not like you

Orrite. sl1cki, 10+ yrs ago Apple fanboys were (and sometimes still are) of the 'why would you want to do that?' variety. If in Windows you have a problem e.g. your mouse pointer speed is too slow you can ask for help and get an answer. If you were on a Mac and asked the same question you'd get 'why would you want to make your mouse go faster?' and a zombie face. It was with anything though, including stuff like networking problems and busted hardware that literally LITERALLY rendered certain functions 100% useless. They'd just accept that their Apple product was perfect and that anyone who wanted to do anything useful or necessary was mentally inferior in some way.

Checking music and selecting the 'sync only checked songs' option for yr iPod is exactly 348573498573948579345 times easier than (a) manually dragging everything you want to listen to every time you sync or (b) making bloody playlists. The Apple TV displays all unchecked music and allows you to select it but refuses to play it. Of course the Apple fanboi solution (as per above) is to stop whining and do as you are told but that make literally LITERALLY nil sense in this context, as does much of the stupid Apple TV implementation.

caek: Linux is still happy on one laptop but I need something that runs MS Office, Adboce CSx &c. and Windows is a bag of shit.

LITERALLY nil sense

Making playlists and syncing those seems like the only way to ensure that I can fit everything onto my ipod though? I can see how many GB the playlist is and trim it down as needed so it fits when I sync it, without iTunes copying half a record over or something.

I think I figured out how to get rid of the check column because I don't have it and never understood the point of it.

almanac, you're insane. what's easier, unclicking every little checkbox on this page:

http://grab.by/grabs/8c7d5651e885c16c5821a4d7af74b891.png

or just selecting all and dragging them to a playlist?

two clicks + a drag vs. 40 fiddly little clicks

i had no idea what that checkbox was for until i saw this thread.
when i want to listen to something on my ipod i drag it across from my library.
when i get fed up of it i delete it from my ipod.
guess this makes me the worst kind of savage tho.

what you do makes NIL sense.

i think you can hold a modifier key and un/check all selected tracks, but the point is that making playlists is certainly no harder than checking or unchecking

but if apple tv actually shows unchecked tracks and refuses to play it then that's a bug. it should either not show it or allow you to play it. i don't think that makes it a "half-baked pile of shit" tho.

i am a fanboy though

basically anybody who doesn't uncheck tracks is a fanboy

if you hold option and hit the uncheck box it unchecks all your songs, makes itunes somewhat obsolete tho

WTF is wrong with people. Smart Playlists are your friends... don't bother with checking/unchecking. Only way I can get a handle on a 191GB library

almanac, you're insane. what's easier, unclicking every little checkbox on this page:

http://grab.by/grabs/8c7d5651e885c16c5821a4d7af74b891.png

or just selecting all and dragging them to a playlist?

two clicks + a drag vs. 40 fiddly little clicks

― shirley summistake (s1ocki), Sunday, 21 November 2010 11:09 (17 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Two clicks + a drag my arse. Every time I add new music to iTunes I have to remember what it all was so I can drag it to the 60Gb iPod. Dragging all doesn't work because 95Gb of music won't fit on a 60Gb iPod (see above).

That v unchecking less-desired music ONCE EVER (select artist/album, 'untick selection' = 5 sec of work). If you're unticking every single box in tedious succession you fail at computers and therefore life.

i sort by "date added" to look at what i just added.

WTF is wrong with people. Smart Playlists are your friends... don't bother with checking/unchecking. Only way I can get a handle on a 191GB library

― Stockhausen's Helicopter Quartet (Elvis Telecom), Sunday, 21 November 2010 11:30 (12 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Until Apple makes a smart playlist criterion that allows me to select all music that the wife and I arbitrarily decide we want to have access to in the car it's useless for iPod management.

Anyway in all this YU0 ARER RONG discourse we are missing the fact that Apple TVs are an idiot.

But AA, what do you think of caek's smart playlist suggestion?

Every time I add new music to iTunes I have to remember what it all was so I can drag it to the 60Gb iPod.

no. see upthread.

1) playlist called "not ipod". put stuff you previously unchecked in there.
2) smart playlist which is all of your library except tracks on "not ipod"
3) sync this smart playlist to ipod.

in future, instead of unchecking/checking you move stuff in and out of "not ipod".

and now you can play your entire library on your apple tv.

caek, thanks, I can see how that would work, but it's clumsier than the check-uncheck solution I already use which worked 100% of the time until Apple rolled this new TV thing out the showroom. Also it would mean sorting all 14,000 of my songs all over again and tbh I cbf doing that. Solution for now is to check something if I want to play it on the Apple TV and uncheck it when I've finished.

yeah, that's way less clumsy.

why don't you just sort your tracks by checked/unchecked to determine which ones go into "not ipod" and then do exactly what caek said

i realize it's annoying to do this in a new way, but i think you're building it up to be a bigger deal in your head than it really is. this would take perhaps 15 seconds, or 90 seconds if someone interrupted you to talk about sarah palin or something:

1) make a smart playlist called of everything that is not currently checked.
2) drag everything in that smart playlist to a new regular playlist called "not ipod"
3) option-click a check in your "music" library so all your library is checked
4) forget about the check button from now on

ya but APPLE you fanboy

Caek is your friend here.

haha

also, agree, this The Apple TV displays all unchecked music and allows you to select it but refuses to play it. is totally moronic, def needs to remedied.

it's a bug, no doubt. when you share a library with unchecked songs other macs on the network can see and play the unchecked songs. apple tv should do the same.

why don't you just sort your tracks by checked/unchecked to determine which ones go into "not ipod" and then do exactly what caek said

― shirley summistake (s1ocki), Sunday, 21 November 2010 11:37 (7 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Because I don't have to! That's not the point. You're telling me how to redo something that alresdy works to avoid a design fault in one Apple product. The problem is not with the way I do things but with the design fault in this one Apple product.

hey here's a good idea, why don't I take to my eardrums with a drill, then I won't hear anything, 45 seconds of work, problem solved

hey here's a good idea, why don't you try my suggestion?

btw caek I will def keep your suggestion in mind and appreciate your advice but I really don't want to fartarse around with all this unless I have to and right now I don't have to.

xp

ok