Terry Gilliam - C/D, S/D

(really just made that post in order to throw Tideland into the mix and see what happens)

In future I really am not going to bump the thread of a guy who hasnt made a good film in a quarter-century just bcz he turned 70.

yes you will

But you alerted me to Quixote's funding going arse-up so completely worthwhile bump imo xp

totally dug imaginarium which i just saw last weekend. brazil is dope but too long. is fisher king with robin williams? i guess i have to put tideland on my netflix queue . . .

Fisher King Robin Williams, yep.

btw did that film disappear without trace? I've not seen it available anywhere in at least a decade.

I have Tideland and that's another that I've been a bit twitchy about watching.

It's incredibly fantastic but it's also very very confrontational and self-indulgent and monologue-heavy and just weird. But incredibly fantastic.

hurm....

I want to say more but there's so much to spoil.

spoiler:

horrid

That's def a good start.

reviews were pretty bad iirc

Unanimously, and it's pretty clear why (but to expound would breach spoiler etiquette).

Yeah I already knew a little about the storyline and I think that's what backed me off it. Maybe I'll give it a shot this weekend (so to speak)

Hey nice username, Almanac :)

Ahhhh. Righto.

btw if you make it halfway and it's not grabbing you you can stop.

;) xp

ty Almanac. Maybe I'll take a sedative or something before I start out, lol

Fisher King was pretty rad. But yeah most of it is Robin Williams doing his Robin Williams thing, acting like the genie from Aladdin or something, but it's not entirely bad cos it's balanced out by scuzzy Jeff Bridges and his hot-ass gf. Jeff spends alot of the movie looking like a bum, so you can almost imagine this is a prequel to The Big Lebowski or something.

Gonna check out Tideland soon, it's the only TG film I havent seen...

someone describing 'brazil' at work: "it's in the 80's, robert deniro, it's supposed to be set in brazil...."

this is the same person who referred to anne hathaway as "some english actress" when talking about One Day.

is tideland any good

Tideland's abysmal. So much worse than anything else he has done.

"...I think it's the movie version of Who's The Boss? except with only the grandma, and her face is made out of rubber."

"also her dog's asshole is taped shut for some reason"

"the ending is nice and then they ruin it"

August 8

Dear Sid:

Once upon a time you told me that you were not the one that put me in the chair at the end of "Brazil." I'm afraid that this is no longer true — unable as I am to think of anyone else who is directly responsible for my current condition. Your later offer to be the friend who becomes a torturer has more than come true. I am not sure you are aware of just how much pain you are inflicting, but I don't believe "responsibility to the company" in any way absolves you from crimes against even this small branch of humanity. As long as my name is on the film, what is done to it is done to me — there is no way of separating these two entities. I feel every cut, especially the ones that sever the balls. And I plead, whether they are done in the name of legitimate and responsible experiments or personal curiosity, if you really wish to make your version of "Brazil" then put your name on it. Then you can do what you like. "Sid Sheinberg's Brazil" has a nice ring to it. But, until that time, I shall continue to decline. Please let me know how much longer must I endure before the bleeding stops.

Deterioratingly yours,

Terry

c.c.: Jack Lint

http://www.lettersofnote.com/2012/06/i-feel-every-cut.html

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7149/6395023359_c357e5f1f5_o.jpg
http://www.lettersofnote.com/2011/11/when-are-you-going-to-release-my-film.html

Gilliam's daughter Holly is digging into her father's archives and blogging about what she finds: http://hollydgilliam.blogspot.co.uk/

Nice!

John Justen wrote this on thread Terry Gilliam - C/D, S/D on board I Love Everything on 06-Jun-2007

OK SO TIDELAND IS THE WORST MOVIE EVER EVER EVER PRETTY MUCH.

This is coming from someone who has great respect for Gilliam in general, but seriously, dude, the next time you want to put yourself through some sort of aggressive theraputic "finding yourself as a child" bullshit, leave it for the Terry Gilliam home video collection.

This movie is irredeemable. I watched it last night, and I'm still angry about it.

yep

Did anybody manage to see the leaked Zero Theorem trailer before it was taken down?

Yeah, the film has a very Brazil vibe to it, albeit with lots of CG and heavy-handed humour. I liked Dr Parnassus, though, so none of it put me off.

parnassus was pretty good!

I still haven't seen Tideland, waiting for it to show up on cable or streaming or something. I know at least one person who thought it was excellent, weirdly

Parnassus was much better than I thought it would be, although it felt overly long and convoluted. obviously a bit of a cursed production, unfortunately.

re: ZT trailer: It at least looks as if David Thewlis has been given a decent role at last.

anyone remember his first film, 'jabberwocky'? they seemed to show it every week on comedy central in the mid-90s. i remember it being sort of like 'holy grail' without the jokes.

it was pretty much exactly that. it was ok. I watched like every movie any python was attached to at some point and it ranked somewhere in the middle. certainly lower than the movie Palin made with Maggie Smith

Here's a working link:

http://www.celebuzz.com/2013-06-25/watch-the-leaked-trailer-for-terry-gilliams-the-zero-theorem/

I've got to say it looks promising.

wow yes def looks promising

Looks very Brazil meets A.I.. One small reason I'm not looking forward to this is the last 15 years of Terry Gilliam. But man, those first 20 years ...

Here is the first trailer for The Zero Theorem, the latest film by noted weirdo Terry Gilliam, which stars noted weirdo Christoph Waltz. It's gonna be super weird and it looks super great as well.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=eyY5InLYJPQ

hm. Let's try that again:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eyY5InLYJPQ

BOO! to everyone who says Tideland is crap. BOO! I think it is a contender for his best film and I'm sure there were quite a few critics who loved it. Great performances, great film. I can understand why some might find some parts boring but I'm baffled why anyone would hate it.

Just saw Baron Munchausen today. I didn't bother with it for years assuming it would be so-so and I'd never heard much talk of it. But I loved it stuffed it was with visual designs and I laughed out loud several times. It really ought to be talked up more and be one of those films that all kids assume each other have seen*. Oliver Reed's part was really great.

I assume his new film is being talked about on another thread?

* When I was a kid I actually found these fantasy films too depressing and disturbing but I hope I was a minority on that.

Tideland is way too terrible to just be crap, so maybe we agree

tideland is exactly what happends when a gifted sensory director went out of his way to devise shitness on screen and excels himself

Could you guys at least say why you didn't like the film. All I can find on this thread are complete disapproval with no elaboration or saying it didn't match up to some pre-conceived wishes (comparing it to Reflecting Skin, which was an interesting film but I've never really got the huge love for Philip Ridley's 3 films).

Someone did say they thought the lead performance was poor.

I really love it, I think it's a real bummer that there aren't more films like this and that lots of people obviously discourage it. I saw Brothers Grimm recently and was really surprised he could make something that poor and conventional, although it did ha e some good visuals.

Yep, Tideland is fucking great. I just saw it now. Y'all afraid of what's there.

(and the central performance is absolutely incredible, what the hell are you all on)