he had one of the most amazingly consistent runs (three decades! imho) of any American director. It's a shame his 00s movies sucked, but yeah history mayne otm things don't last forever. as Allen would mournfully note himself.
― a big influence on me in a non-stabbing non-killing way (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 2 December 2010 16:31 (thirteen years ago) link
i guess i've only heard tapes of his stand-up but i'd kind of put the 1960s as his first decade of greatness -- tbh i prefer them to almost all of his movies
― rip whiney g weingarten 03/11 never forget (history mayne), Thursday, 2 December 2010 16:32 (thirteen years ago) link
I don't like Manhattan much – underwritten and overphotographed.
― look at it, pwn3d, made u look at my peen/vadge (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 2 December 2010 16:32 (thirteen years ago) link
The argument b/w Yale and Isaac in the classroom is just painful.
― look at it, pwn3d, made u look at my peen/vadge (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 2 December 2010 16:33 (thirteen years ago) link
on the other hand Husbands and Wives was the Height of Sophistication when I was eighteen.
aw man this cracks me up. you think you're god/well I have to model myself after somebody lolz
― a big influence on me in a non-stabbing non-killing way (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 2 December 2010 16:34 (thirteen years ago) link
Yale: PsychobabbleIsaac: One-liner
(repeat for five minutes)
― look at it, pwn3d, made u look at my peen/vadge (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 2 December 2010 16:37 (thirteen years ago) link
lol @ manhattan overphotoraphed
― JIMMY MOD THE SACK MASTER (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Thursday, 2 December 2010 16:38 (thirteen years ago) link
c'mon this is how all comedy-duo routines work! You have a straight man and then you have the punchlines
― a big influence on me in a non-stabbing non-killing way (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 2 December 2010 16:41 (thirteen years ago) link
Yeah, it's not fair to pick on that scene, but it's symptomatic of the larger problem with the movie. He hasn't learned yet to write enough sides to the characters.
― look at it, pwn3d, made u look at my peen/vadge (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 2 December 2010 16:44 (thirteen years ago) link
that would have to wait until madonna's part in shadows & fog
― buzza, Thursday, 2 December 2010 16:56 (thirteen years ago) link
and the Greek chorus in Mighty Aphrodite.
― look at it, pwn3d, made u look at my peen/vadge (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 2 December 2010 16:58 (thirteen years ago) link
He hasn't learned yet to write enough sides to the characters.
Same here. Overall, I find Hanna and Crimes and Misdemeanors better films. He starts to lose me with Husbands and Wives.
― clemenza, Thursday, 2 December 2010 17:09 (thirteen years ago) link
H&W is my favorite.
― look at it, pwn3d, made u look at my peen/vadge (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 2 December 2010 17:10 (thirteen years ago) link
I was iffy when it came out, tried again a couple of years ago but didn't really get anywhere. I will, somewhere down the road, try again.
― clemenza, Thursday, 2 December 2010 17:13 (thirteen years ago) link
By the way, I played both clips for my class this morning. As predicted, mass puzzlement over the universe-is-expanding clip. Me: "But don't you see, he won't do his homework because he says there's no point...he's 10 years old and he's worried about the universe expanding...it's funny!"
― clemenza, Thursday, 2 December 2010 17:21 (thirteen years ago) link
I saw Husbands and Wives recently and I'd consider it a middling work - not bad but not great. a lot of the acting is top-notch and I always love Judy Davis doing her "I am CRAZY and UPTIGHT" schtick. but honestly thought the most satisfying moment in the whole thing is when Juliette Lewis tells Woody how sexist and pretentious and stupid his novel is, it's basically an internalized critique of Allen's entire ouevre.
― a big influence on me in a non-stabbing non-killing way (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 2 December 2010 17:26 (thirteen years ago) link
Is it weird that Interiors is my fave Woody movie? Nobody else seems to like it
― no hipster hats (The Brainwasher), Thursday, 2 December 2010 17:29 (thirteen years ago) link
never seen it. scared of the Bergman homage
― a big influence on me in a non-stabbing non-killing way (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 2 December 2010 17:32 (thirteen years ago) link
i finally saw manhattan this year and i was blown away... think its p much perfect tbh
― Princess TamTam, Thursday, 2 December 2010 17:34 (thirteen years ago) link
my interpretation of Manhattan has changed almost 180 from when I first saw it as a teenager, but that has only deepened my appreciation of it
― goat, camel, horse, and water buffalo (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 2 December 2010 17:39 (thirteen years ago) link
Is it weird that Interiors is my fave Woody movie?
Yes--I think even Sarris, probably Woody's biggest fan at the time, was perplexed. (I might not be right about that.) Many critics were merciless. But a conventional wisdom quickly developed that if he hadn't made Interiors, there wouldn't have been a Manhattan. Anyway, eccentric favorites are always interesting.
I'm exactly where Shakey Mo is on Husbands and Wives.
― clemenza, Thursday, 2 December 2010 17:43 (thirteen years ago) link
over photographed !
― zvookster, Thursday, 2 December 2010 18:04 (thirteen years ago) link
oh my eyes!
tone it down to 23 frames a second could ya pal
― zvookster, Thursday, 2 December 2010 18:05 (thirteen years ago) link
oh man i LOVE the argument in the classroom actually despite it having that slightly-under-rehearsed feel. it is a little underwritten Manhattan too in parts but i kinda like that about his stuff. i thought that's what a lot of people liked about it? you can tell he only does 2 or 3 takes or whatever and has the actors say whatever they want so long as the general gist comes across. i still think "i wanna make sure that when i.. thin out that i'm.. well thought of" is brilliant.
― piscesx, Thursday, 2 December 2010 20:37 (thirteen years ago) link
My thoughts: C/D - Woody Allen's "Husbands & Wives"
― look at it, pwn3d, made u look at my peen/vadge (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 2 December 2010 20:40 (thirteen years ago) link
This is the only way to reply to psychobabble.
"Every (orgasm) I had was right on the money."
― kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 2 December 2010 20:42 (thirteen years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xmnLRVWgnXU
― kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 2 December 2010 20:48 (thirteen years ago) link
― Princess TamTam, Thursday, December 2, 2010 12:34 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
otm + i love the nazi/baseball bat joke.
― horseshoe, Thursday, 2 December 2010 21:16 (thirteen years ago) link
jeez clemenza, it's a JOKE, in reply to a straight line about "a devastating piece in the Times"
― kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 2 December 2010 21:21 (thirteen years ago) link
Morbius--I know that it's joke. I did get that. It's just not, to my ears, a particularly good one, and I'm trying to explain why I don't think so. One of the things I reguarly try to do when I post on here is explain myself. I know your style is more the, uh, hit-and-run zing. (Are you saying that all jokes--good, bad, and otherwise--are beyond criticism?)
― clemenza, Friday, 3 December 2010 00:50 (thirteen years ago) link
I mean, you've clarified why I hate that exchange: he makes the O'Donohue character look like a pompous fool by sticking the word "devastating" in his mouth, just so Everyman Woody can cut him down to size with talk of beating Nazis over the head with baseball bats. It's as corny as can be.
― clemenza, Friday, 3 December 2010 00:57 (thirteen years ago) link
(Are you saying that all jokes--good, bad, and otherwise--are beyond criticism?)
If they're not funny, they deserve criticism. If they are, they speak for themselves -- loudly, and better than an NYT column.
― look at it, pwn3d, made u look at my peen/vadge (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 3 December 2010 01:04 (thirteen years ago) link
Michael O'Donoghue does not have the "devastating" line, a woman does. MO'D talks mostly about the guy who "screws so great."
(There was a confrontation sequence w/ New Jersey Nazis cut from the film)
― kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Friday, 3 December 2010 01:43 (thirteen years ago) link
Okay, faulty memory. Are you sure it's the woman, though? I can picture the guy she's with, and I'm seeing him deliver the line. In any event, it doesn't change my objections to the joke. (Same scene: Tisa Farrow.)
― clemenza, Friday, 3 December 2010 01:46 (thirteen years ago) link
it's not a woman who has that line either:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aG0Y5Ki1GpY
― piscesx, Friday, 3 December 2010 03:22 (thirteen years ago) link
The faulty memory is vindicated...Great line within the first 30 seconds: "Something's not flowing."
― clemenza, Friday, 3 December 2010 03:36 (thirteen years ago) link
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/woody-allen-pays-tribute-ingmar-95679
― kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Monday, 7 February 2011 13:03 (thirteen years ago) link
The younger generation is just basically film-ignorant. Not just about Bergman, but Antonioni, Truffaut, Kurosawa, Bunuel. Film is not part of their general literacy. But the Bergman films remain great. They are great films — just as are the Bunuel films, the Kurosawa films, all of the films of that great flourishing of European cinema — all those films were great, great movies. The Seventh Seal was great then, and it’s great now. They don’t know The Bicycle Thief; they don’t know Grand Illusion. And many, many of them don’t know Citizen Kane. If they do know it, they know it as something they happened to see on television. They don’t have the same general reverence — which I’m not criticizing them for — there’s no reason why they would or should. It’s just a different time. Their icons and their heroes lie in a different area.
woody more or less otm
― a gadfly within the ranks of the nationalist far right (history mayne), Monday, 7 February 2011 13:33 (thirteen years ago) link
megalol that that quote is immediately followed by:
The first Bergman I ever saw was that one because there was talk in the neighborhood that there was a nude scene. This was unheard of in any American film, that level of advancement.
― bien-pensant vibe (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 7 February 2011 16:29 (thirteen years ago) link
Dennis Perrin:
"Watched Woody Allen's You Will Meet A Tall Dark Stranger last night. Message: realists are forever fucked and compromised, desperation can lead to horrible choices, and the only truly happy people are delusional and superstitious. Sort of like Bananas with an English accent."
― kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Friday, 4 March 2011 18:56 (thirteen years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y2rCnTF1xlo
― buzza, Tuesday, 29 March 2011 06:40 (thirteen years ago) link
WHERE ARE THE JOEKS
― in my world of loose geirs (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 29 March 2011 16:17 (thirteen years ago) link
The still looks like a Stillman outtake.
― Hey Look More Than Five Years Has Passed And You Have A C (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 29 March 2011 16:22 (thirteen years ago) link
http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/2011/may/06/woody-allen-top-five-books
this was a nice read
― sensual bathtub (group: 698) (schlump), Friday, 6 May 2011 11:25 (thirteen years ago) link
That was indeed a nice read, thanks! "Epitaph of a Small Winner" sounds very intriguing.
The comments on that article are moronic otoh, even by the usual standards of guardian commenters.
― Volvo Twilight (p-dog), Friday, 6 May 2011 12:01 (thirteen years ago) link
"If you become obsessed with films or baseball or your children -- or if, in my case, you're worried about how the third act is going to turn out -- you become focused on that and you don't think about the terrors of life. You become focused on something that's apparently meaningful, but it's no more meaningful than the outcome of the Yankees game. I'll say, 'Gee, the Yankees lost today,' and the non baseball fan will say, 'So what?' It's as meaningful as his life or my life. They're specks of light in an eternal void having no meaning whatsoever in a universe that's eventually going to not exist. In the end, like in Stardust Memories, we all get flushed. The beautiful ones, the accomplished ones, the Einsteins, the Shakespeares, the homeless guys in the street with the wine bottles, all end up in the same grave. So, I have a very dim view of things, but I think about them, and I do feel that I've come to the conclusion that the artist can not justify life or come up with a cogent reason as to why life is meaningful, but the artist can provide you with a cold glass of water on a hot day."
http://blogs.laweekly.com/stylecouncil/2011/05/woody_allen_midnight_in_paris.php
― resistance does not require a firearm (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 12 May 2011 16:23 (thirteen years ago) link
given his 00s track record I'm really skeptical of this one. all of his movies have sucked since Match Point, which is an extremely long fallow period for him imho. have you seen this yet Morbz?
― american thinker (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 12 May 2011 16:53 (thirteen years ago) link
no. I've skipped a whole bunch of the recent ones, but am intrigued by The Purple Rose of Cairo comparisons.
(if I do see this, it will be early, bcz of spoilerrific plot apparently)
― resistance does not require a firearm (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 12 May 2011 16:56 (thirteen years ago) link
When French producers first approached Allen (who has directed five of his last six pictures abroad) about making a film in the City of Lights, he happily agreed. "But I had no idea for Paris at all -- none," he says. "So I asked myself: what do you think of when you think of Paris? Well, romance is what you think of -- at least it's what I think of. I'm not going to do a political thriller in Paris. If I was making a film in Berlin, a different thing comes to mind."
gives you some idea of how much of a "sense" of his "locations" this guy has at this point
― difficult listening hour, Thursday, 12 May 2011 16:57 (thirteen years ago) link