it's kind of funnie because for eliot, on whom maccabe is supposed to be an authority, that homogenous, one european culture that began with dante was ended by the english civil war/british civil wars, or by the forces that caused it/them; anyway, that's what he's alluding to, i suppose
sensibility keeps on getting more dissociated every gd year
― rip whiney g weingarten 03/11 never forget (history mayne), Friday, 3 December 2010 13:27 (thirteen years ago) link
saw big col trying to int jlg onstage at the nft abt 10 years ago, prob the most excruiating encounter between admirer and object of devotion i've ever witnessed
― Ward Fowler, Friday, 3 December 2010 13:30 (thirteen years ago) link
godard seems to bring that out in people. the new yorker's richard brody interviewed him back then and apparently it was insanely awkward -- afterwards, they ended up in the same restaurant, but pointedly jlg and amm both ignored brodybro. who went on to write a very long biography of godard.
― rip whiney g weingarten 03/11 never forget (history mayne), Friday, 3 December 2010 13:32 (thirteen years ago) link
very long and very fawning, i should say: he got very upset when people used bits from it (you can guess to what prejudice they pertained) to attack godard
― rip whiney g weingarten 03/11 never forget (history mayne), Friday, 3 December 2010 13:33 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah, this was like 20 min arselicking question from CM taking in dante, eliot, cambridge structuralism, dagenham motors, maoism and what not followed by monosyllabic grunt from JLG
bukowski writes of a v funny (if incredibly self-serving) encounter w 'jean-luc modard' in his 'novel' Hollywood (iirc, Buk wrote the English subtitles for 'Slow Motion'... cld be misremembering...)
― Ward Fowler, Friday, 3 December 2010 13:46 (thirteen years ago) link
wonder if jean-luc and woody did a joint bday party, when they were doing 'lear'
― rip whiney g weingarten 03/11 never forget (history mayne), Friday, 3 December 2010 13:56 (thirteen years ago) link
godard seems to enjoy being a rude twat
following lacan's edict of 'leave them wanting more'
― Ectothiorhodospira shaposhnikovii (nakhchivan), Friday, 3 December 2010 16:15 (thirteen years ago) link
By the way (following up on the birthday greeting above), has anybody ever seen Letter to Mickey, where Godard and and his friend Jean-Pierre Gorin spend an hour deconstructing a still from Steamboat Willie? Fantastic.
― clemenza, Friday, 3 December 2010 16:32 (thirteen years ago) link
was this after Letter to Jane?
― kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Friday, 3 December 2010 16:37 (thirteen years ago) link
Battle of the dry wits: I'm joking, but I'm not sure if you're joking or not. (This is like that slacker in the Simpsons "Homerpalooza" episode: "Oh, he's good." "Are you being ironic?" "Man, I don't even know anymore...")
― clemenza, Friday, 3 December 2010 16:55 (thirteen years ago) link
i saw some quote on tumblr recently from a filmmaker but i cant remember who, thought maybe it was godard, about how its the rich who want art to seem special & extraordinary, but we should work to make art everyday. it may not have been his. anyone know what im talking about?
― lotta diamonds ... but prolly more display names (deej), Friday, 3 December 2010 17:59 (thirteen years ago) link
http://www.carvalho-bernau.com/jlg/
― C0L1N B..., Sunday, 5 December 2010 04:43 (thirteen years ago) link
showing at the museum of fine arts in boston this week as part of a huppert retrospective
Every Man for Himself (Sauve qui peut (la vie) by Jean-Luc Godard (France, 1980, 89 min.). Employed by a television company, Paul is newly separated from his wife Denise. Isabelle (Huppert), a country girl, comes to the city to make a living as a prostitute. The three characters meet, talk, argue, have sex, and separate. A favorite Godard film among many scholars and critics, Every Man for Himself is a crucial and classic work of modern cinema. “So rich, dense, and subtle in imagery that I saw it twice…The film attacked me in what seemed to be a total way” (Gerald Peary, The Boston Phoenix). In French with English subtitles
― if nothing else this thread will result in some great display names (Edward III), Tuesday, 14 December 2010 20:59 (thirteen years ago) link
The film attacked me in what seemed to be a total way
― À la recherche du temps Pardew (jim in glasgow), Tuesday, 14 December 2010 21:00 (thirteen years ago) link
gerald peary assaulted by foreign film
― if nothing else this thread will result in some great display names (Edward III), Tuesday, 14 December 2010 21:03 (thirteen years ago) link
just saw Every Man for Himself for the first time since '81. Liked it but was not assaulted.
― kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 14 December 2010 21:20 (thirteen years ago) link
West End Cinema in DC is doing Breathless, Contempt & "Made in the USA" which has apparently never screened in the US til now? Saw Breathless (again) Saturday, gonna try to see Made in the USA this week.
― aka the pope (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Wednesday, 15 December 2010 00:48 (thirteen years ago) link
p sure it has played in the US, but maybe only on the college film society circuit, or at nyff?
― ohhhh we plop champagne (history mayne), Wednesday, 15 December 2010 00:50 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah i misread somewhere, apparently it was just 'not widely shown' in the us
― aka the pope (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Wednesday, 15 December 2010 01:02 (thirteen years ago) link
i think a lot of his films never got a 'real' release, especially in the 1970s, but it's funny with 'made in usa' coz whatever else you might say about it, it has anna k at her most beuatiful... and also marianne faithfull, who i guess was marketable at the time too
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3461/3234442774_a9277a1247.jpg
think it's one of his best because -- i suppose my memory could be fucking with me but -- jlg himself kind of stays out of it
― ohhhh we plop champagne (history mayne), Wednesday, 15 December 2010 01:08 (thirteen years ago) link
Parts of Made In USA are great
― big up yourself and encounter (admrl), Wednesday, 15 December 2010 01:12 (thirteen years ago) link
the restored print of breathless is rad btw
― aka the pope (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Wednesday, 15 December 2010 01:17 (thirteen years ago) link
did they fill in the jump cuts?
― jed_, Wednesday, 15 December 2010 02:59 (thirteen years ago) link
or cut down that one really long scene?
― "300" blows (admrl), Wednesday, 15 December 2010 03:03 (thirteen years ago) link
tempted to get the restored blu-ray JLG box set for xmas
― licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Wednesday, 15 December 2010 08:30 (thirteen years ago) link
smash: AKdiscard: JLG
i cannot be the first to suggest...
― Today, if he makes a grunge (contenderizer), Wednesday, 15 December 2010 09:33 (thirteen years ago) link
Made in USA has some good scenes, and is attractive to look at, but is kinda silly.
― sarahel, Wednesday, 15 December 2010 09:39 (thirteen years ago) link
they're *all* kind of silly
at least 'made in usa' is attractive to look at
― ohhhh we plop champagne (history mayne), Wednesday, 15 December 2010 09:43 (thirteen years ago) link
made in usa is supposedly based on a richard stark novel (a gd one, too) but almost no trace of it remains in the godard film - it's a bit like fennesz 'covering' paint it black, nobody wld ever spot the source material unless they were told
― Ward Fowler, Wednesday, 15 December 2010 10:17 (thirteen years ago) link
i've nvr read any maupassant but idk if his stories are discernible in 'masculin-feminin'... or 'stagecoach'
― ohhhh we plop champagne (history mayne), Wednesday, 15 December 2010 10:21 (thirteen years ago) link
Because neither Godard nor the producer paid the book's adaptation rights and following legal action by Westlake, the film was long unavailable in the United States. The film had its U.S. premiere on April 1, 2009 (three months after Westlake's death)
― fit and working again, Wednesday, 15 December 2010 15:53 (thirteen years ago) link
blimey. apparently it did play nyff in '67, but otherwise nup.
― ohhhh we plop champagne (history mayne), Wednesday, 15 December 2010 15:54 (thirteen years ago) link
Same point as above: I thought Made in USA was totally beautiful--that Marianne Faithfull still conveys the look of the film well--but quite silly.
― clemenza, Wednesday, 15 December 2010 16:24 (thirteen years ago) link
I saw Made in USA maybe a dozen years ago at NYC's Anthology Film Archives (a nonprofit where I've also seen Haynes' Superstar).
― kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 15 December 2010 16:44 (thirteen years ago) link
Maupassant is great! U should read him
― Cristal Kieslowski (admrl), Wednesday, 15 December 2010 16:48 (thirteen years ago) link
i know :(
― ohhhh we plop champagne (history mayne), Wednesday, 15 December 2010 16:59 (thirteen years ago) link
Made in USA has had a few runs at Film Forum in the past couple years too.
― C0L1N B..., Wednesday, 15 December 2010 17:08 (thirteen years ago) link
pretty sure it screened recently at Berkeley's Pacific Film Archive
― sarahel, Wednesday, 15 December 2010 17:29 (thirteen years ago) link
so Film Socialisme opens in NY in 2 weeks... same 'Navajo' subtitles?
― the gay bloggers are onto the faggot tweets (Dr Morbius), Monday, 23 May 2011 20:23 (thirteen years ago) link
an annotation of FS (will read before/after imminent second viewing):
http://www.movingimagesource.us/articles/film-socialisme-annotated-20110607
― the gay bloggers are onto the faggot tweets (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 8 June 2011 16:11 (thirteen years ago) link
w/ enhanced subtitles, apparently
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y5tWwNmw8xk&feature=share
― the gay bloggers are onto the faggot tweets (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 9 June 2011 02:05 (thirteen years ago) link
FInished Brody's book. Very interesting. A little reductive, perhaps, and he really runs with a few narrative threads, but that's fine and it was enjoyable.
― Gukbe, Thursday, 11 August 2011 18:10 (twelve years ago) link
i don't know why it took me forever to finish it, because i thought it was mostly very entertaining/interesting, and (mostly) even-handed (doesn't let him off the hook for the failure of the d-v stuff) despite brody's obvious fanboyism. but man it took me forever to finish it.
― king of torts (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Thursday, 11 August 2011 18:15 (twelve years ago) link
It took me a while because I had the silly idea of trying to watch as many of the available films as possible before I got to the chapter. I finally gave up on that and just barrelled through the rest. I honestly don't know who much Karina really took over so much of that early work, but it made for a good story.
― Gukbe, Thursday, 11 August 2011 18:19 (twelve years ago) link
haha yeah i mean i always knew he was a cock but he comes off as the world's most obnoxious erudite manchild in the karina part of the story.
― king of torts (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Thursday, 11 August 2011 18:21 (twelve years ago) link
I think he gets worse in the 80s and unbelievably crepey with Berengere Allaux.
This guy rips the book - and Brody - to shreds.
― Gukbe, Thursday, 11 August 2011 18:27 (twelve years ago) link
hmmmmmmmm
ok, the line 'when i hear the word culture i reach for my chequebook': where is it from? when?
godard didn't come up with it.
― a fake wannabe trying to be a pimp (history mayne), Wednesday, 14 September 2011 17:22 (twelve years ago) link
http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Barbara_Kruger
― michael assbender (Eric H.), Wednesday, 14 September 2011 17:25 (twelve years ago) link
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hans_Johst
The famous line is regularly misattributed, sometimes to Hermann Göring and sometimes to Heinrich Himmler. In December 2007, historian David Starkey misattributed it to Joseph Goebbels in comments criticizing Queen Elizabeth II for being "poorly educated and philistine".[1] It has also been adapted, for example by Stephen Hawking as "When I hear of Schrödinger's cat, I reach for my pistol" and by filmmaker Jean-Luc Godard in 1963's film Le Mépris, when a producer says to Fritz Lang: "Whenever I hear the word culture, I bring out my checkbook." Lang evokes the original line as he answers "Some years ago—some horrible years ago—the Nazis used to take out a pistol instead of a checkbook."
― black metal version of "the boy with the thorn in his side" (Edward III), Wednesday, 14 September 2011 18:10 (twelve years ago) link
yeah no i mean who made the 'chequebook' joek first?
― a fake wannabe trying to be a pimp (history mayne), Wednesday, 14 September 2011 18:14 (twelve years ago) link