DL: we've not me have we?
― Tim (Tim), Friday, 11 June 2004 13:15 (twenty years ago) link
― dog latin (dog latin), Friday, 11 June 2004 13:16 (twenty years ago) link
― Tim (Tim), Friday, 11 June 2004 13:16 (twenty years ago) link
― Markelby (Mark C), Friday, 11 June 2004 13:16 (twenty years ago) link
― Ronan (Ronan), Friday, 11 June 2004 13:16 (twenty years ago) link
― Ronan (Ronan), Friday, 11 June 2004 13:17 (twenty years ago) link
― hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 11 June 2004 13:17 (twenty years ago) link
― dog latin (dog latin), Friday, 11 June 2004 13:18 (twenty years ago) link
― hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 11 June 2004 13:19 (twenty years ago) link
― stevem (blueski), Friday, 11 June 2004 13:19 (twenty years ago) link
― Tim (Tim), Friday, 11 June 2004 13:20 (twenty years ago) link
― hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 11 June 2004 13:21 (twenty years ago) link
― stevem (blueski), Friday, 11 June 2004 13:23 (twenty years ago) link
― Markelby (Mark C), Friday, 11 June 2004 13:23 (twenty years ago) link
I recall it being the "S&M crowd" - Scarborough & Mississauga, natch. (Sadly, I am from Scarborough), but in recent years I found the area code slur much more common, i.e. - "Richmond Street is full of annoyoing 905ers"
― Rob Bolton (Rob Bolton), Friday, 11 June 2004 13:23 (twenty years ago) link
― hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 11 June 2004 13:23 (twenty years ago) link
Ha, this is how the Accra rumour mill works. My sex life doesn't exist, therefore it has been invented for me.
And this thread is insania. Can't we get back to swapping shitty clubbing experiences instead of dragging a bloody hipsterism/class/snobbery rehash into it? It's harshing my buzz.
― Crickets Dance On Tequila Booty (Barima), Friday, 11 June 2004 13:27 (twenty years ago) link
― Possibly Kate Again (kate), Friday, 11 June 2004 13:29 (twenty years ago) link
And even if you'll claim you don't, well, I do. Do you hate me?
― Gregory Henry (Gregory Henry), Friday, 11 June 2004 13:29 (twenty years ago) link
― hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 11 June 2004 13:29 (twenty years ago) link
― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Friday, 11 June 2004 13:36 (twenty years ago) link
― hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 11 June 2004 13:36 (twenty years ago) link
i didn't like the idea of Hoxditch for years because i assumed it was full of people taking the idea of being 'hip' to unattractive (to me) extremes - see my definition of hip on the Define Hip thread - class didn't come into this. but i didn't feel at all comfortable whenever i hung out there (not often) even just a few years back (99-01) for a number of reasons. i thought the are was ugly, dangerous and just lacked 'soul' - but my perception v distorted because i knew the east side of town so poorly and was naturally biased. conversely (and perversely) i was envious because it was constantly hyped and still popular after saturation point and i would have liked to have been able to latch onto that earlier (no point anyway by the time i started going to clubs round that way). the western equivalent - Ladbroke Grove - didn't seem to have the same sort of buzz or attention paid to it, tho i felt v alien round that way too at first.
― stevem (blueski), Friday, 11 June 2004 13:37 (twenty years ago) link
― Possibly Kate Again (kate), Friday, 11 June 2004 13:39 (twenty years ago) link
― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Friday, 11 June 2004 13:43 (twenty years ago) link
― hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 11 June 2004 13:44 (twenty years ago) link
Given your inability to muster any kind of empathy for anyone other than yourself, that would make perfect sense.
― stevie (stevie), Friday, 11 June 2004 13:58 (twenty years ago) link
― Possibly Kate Again (kate), Friday, 11 June 2004 14:00 (twenty years ago) link
― Matt DC (Matt DC), Friday, 11 June 2004 14:01 (twenty years ago) link
― dog latin (dog latin), Friday, 11 June 2004 14:30 (twenty years ago) link
― Markelby (Mark C), Friday, 11 June 2004 14:31 (twenty years ago) link
― Possibly Kate Again (kate), Friday, 11 June 2004 14:33 (twenty years ago) link
it really is.
don't want to clog up this thread any further, or even engage this issue much longer. it continues here: The Stevie vs Kate class thread
― stevie (stevie), Friday, 11 June 2004 14:38 (twenty years ago) link
― hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 11 June 2004 14:40 (twenty years ago) link
― Possibly Kate Again (kate), Friday, 11 June 2004 14:42 (twenty years ago) link
― CarsmileSteve (CarsmileSteve), Friday, 11 June 2004 14:43 (twenty years ago) link
― AdamL :') (nordicskilla), Friday, 11 June 2004 14:56 (twenty years ago) link
― Dr. C (Dr. C), Friday, 11 June 2004 14:57 (twenty years ago) link
I've worn a few shiny shirts in my day. but it's not a good look for me.
xpost hahahahaha!
― AdamL :') (nordicskilla), Friday, 11 June 2004 14:57 (twenty years ago) link
why is there antipathy for expression through fashion?
why is there such antipathy here for the concept of display?
what is wrong with style over content?
― charltonlido (gareth), Friday, 11 June 2004 15:14 (twenty years ago) link
― AdamL :') (nordicskilla), Friday, 11 June 2004 15:15 (twenty years ago) link
― Markelby (Mark C), Friday, 11 June 2004 15:22 (twenty years ago) link
― AdamL :') (nordicskilla), Friday, 11 June 2004 15:23 (twenty years ago) link
― Falling Down Weapons Shop Guy Ronan (Ronan), Friday, 11 June 2004 15:59 (twenty years ago) link
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Friday, 11 June 2004 16:04 (twenty years ago) link
1) Clubs stay open awfully late, I like to be in bed by 12.2) Too loud3) Too many people4) No comfortable chairs5) Too many flashing lights6) They don't serve tea and cakes
Though, I guess everyone knew that I'd say this sorta thing already, I'm just being consistent. If you like clubs, that's cool, have fun.
― jel -- (jel), Friday, 11 June 2004 16:06 (twenty years ago) link
nothing as such, it's just that there may be an attitude going with it, snootiness maybe - 'i am better than you, the clothes say so' - or just that people not dressing according to your own perception of what looks good is 'wrong' - most people think like that and make judgements as a result (often without realising even?)
because perhaps it's reinforcing an idea that to many is 'wrong' - clothes maketh the man, a sense of superficiality, a disguise, a distraction hiding the truth (that being that they are no better or worse than you). otoh it can be a lot of simple fun.
i don't think it's really about that, it's about an attitude that tends to go with that approach.
it suggests that the style is more important/more meaningful but a lot of people are perhaps conditioned to feel the opposite, and instinctively this feels correct MOST OF THE TIME - not that i don't appreciate what i consider to be good style - of course i do. just don't let it go to your head?
― stevem (blueski), Friday, 11 June 2004 17:05 (twenty years ago) link
and whats wrong with superficiality or disguise? and whats this 'truth'? all peoples clothes tell us about them, even if they think they're clothes don't tell us things, they do
whats this attitude that goes along with overt display? and why is it a problem?
i think appearance is denigrated on this board, far too much, why is it less valued than other 'worthier' things?
― charltonlido (gareth), Friday, 11 June 2004 18:13 (twenty years ago) link
― jel -- (jel), Friday, 11 June 2004 18:16 (twenty years ago) link