Chris Marker

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yeah. they were both part of dziga vertov group (of whom i've seen one film; it was, uh, 'difficult')

rufus is a tity boi (donna rouge), Saturday, 22 January 2011 00:56 (thirteen years ago) link

cool, i can never think of anything to watch when i wanna get a movie

plax (ico), Saturday, 22 January 2011 01:00 (thirteen years ago) link

the gorin trilogy isn't on dvd in the states i think, dunno about anywhere else

but yeah, FAROCKI: if you like the marker vietnam film, check out HF's short 'inextinguishable fire' about american chemical companies and napalm manufacture in vietnam (then check out the paper i wrote about it as an undergrad, or, yknow, don't)

rufus is a tity boi (donna rouge), Saturday, 22 January 2011 01:04 (thirteen years ago) link

Donna OTM. That Gorin trilogy is amazing. There were supposedly Criterion editions in the works, but I guess JPG had some sort of falling out with them. Janus did restore them, though, so I imagine they'll become available in some form. Farocki is also great. Inextinguishable Fire is the real canonical one. I like Workers Leaving the Factory and Images of the World and the Inscription of War better.

I've never regretted seeing a Marker film, but there are definitely ups and downs. I'd most strongly recommend Grin Without a Cat and Le joli mai on top of the ones you've seen.

"Film essay" is an increasingly capacious label, and people get pretty defensive about the parameters (you should track down Philip Lopate's (written) essay "In Search of the Centaur") . There are a million of these things now. Without thinking too long about it or worrying too much about definitions, I'd also suggest Patrick Keiller's Robinson trilogy, Jon Jost's early films, Thom Andersen's Los Angeles Plays Itself (which you can find on Youtube), Trinh T. Minh-ha's Reassemblage (which I believe is also on Youtube), anything by Morgan Fisher, anything by Bill Brown, Histoire(s) du cinema, Adam Curtis' tv work (start with The Trap maybe?). I'm forgetting tons of great stuff, but this is probably already more than you were looking for.

x-ps

C0L1N B..., Saturday, 22 January 2011 01:10 (thirteen years ago) link

Isn't Letter to Jane a Vertov Group film?

C0L1N B..., Saturday, 22 January 2011 01:11 (thirteen years ago) link

i think sans soleil is one of like three movies where ive gone back and watched the bits i fell asleep through

plax (ico), Saturday, 22 January 2011 01:12 (thirteen years ago) link

i think it is, technically xp to c0l1n

shit yeah, 'los angeles plays itself' is fantastic (i watched it in chopped-up segments on youtube, which suited me fine given its length)

rufus is a tity boi (donna rouge), Saturday, 22 January 2011 01:15 (thirteen years ago) link

nine months pass...

Really liked Le Mystère Koumiko (1965) (on youtube) - the girl he interviews/edits/lets take over is 'mixed up' and, similarly, CM adopts that as a strategy on Japan. Could've been really embarrassing but its actually fab.

The BFI shop have that three hour cut of Grin Without a Cat NRQ talks about, or should I really try to torrent(?) the four cut (when I get into torrents) (assuming someone has that)

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 1 November 2011 22:06 (twelve years ago) link

From the description Grin... and Carlos would be the most exciting double bill, but also the most deadly for your circulation - maybe one to watch over a flight to Australia.

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 1 November 2011 22:15 (twelve years ago) link

A/K is a curiously flat (not as a criticism) portrayal of a nice Japanese man who happened to have made a brilliant set of films. Surprising, but only watched aout half of it.

xyzzzz__, Friday, 4 November 2011 19:48 (twelve years ago) link

i don't agree with NRQ re marker's attitude to castro at all: he doesn't denounce him openly (he doesn't denounce anyone really) but he really isn't treated as the hero of the second half, anything but

mark s, Friday, 4 November 2011 20:04 (twelve years ago) link

That Gorin trilogy is amazing. There were supposedly Criterion editions in the works, but I guess JPG had some sort of falling out with them. Janus did restore them, though, so I imagine they'll become available in some form.

eclipse set coming out in january btw

vitameatawalloginavegamin (donna rouge), Friday, 4 November 2011 22:41 (twelve years ago) link

three months pass...

Watched Grin.. over Xmas and its a remarkable montage. Since then I've seen The Last Bolshevik, L'Ambassade (his other fictional film, which is wonderful although no La Jetee), If I had 4 Camels (in the same format as La Jetee but just the most exciting travelogue, as if someone showed slides from their world tour but its so well scripted, soundtracked and narrated -- like all his stuff, pretty much)

And I agree that Grin... doesn't make Castro a hero at all, but he doesn't demonise him either...although he jently mocks him (when he talks about how he taps the microphone when making speeches). So the 'portrait' makes his turns.

Allende 'made to look like a dick' also sounds wrong.

There is a HUGE universe to this stuff: Far From Vietnam, The Battle For Chile, Ivens' A Valparaiso, Statues Also Die. All great pieces of filmmaking he had a hand in producing or assisting, and which I've been v lucky to see in the last few months.

Has anyone here read his novel?

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 18 February 2012 13:58 (twelve years ago) link

one month passes...

Some stuff to chase here -- fairly gd piece in terms of info, although uncritical (how does the analysis in Hour of the Furnaces hold up?). I don't know if neglecting the 2nd part is exatly a wise move -- it doesn't support Peron wholeheartedly, it does look at his time in office as a halfway-house, an unfulfilled revolution. It does apply some of their analysis given in the 1st to comment on the situation in Argentina in the 2nd part. The film ends in interviews w/activists who were imprisoned and tortured, some harrowing stuff. Overall its quite a package.

http://www.bfi.org.uk/sightandsound/feature/49831

The film’s renewal of the economic-political treatise as cinematic form can be traced in many subsequent films whose activism operates through similarly diverse experimental energies: Godard’s Le Rapport Darty (1989), Raoul Peck’s Profit & Nothing But! Or Impolite Thoughts on the Class Struggle (2001), Erik Gandini’s Surplus: Terrorized Into Being Consumers (2003), Alexander Kluge’s Notes from Ideological Antiquity: Marx-Eisenstein-Capital (2008), Lech Kowalski’s The End of the World Begins With One Lie (2010) or John Gianvito’s Vapor Trail (Clark) (2010).

Has anyone seen much from this batch?

Quite a lot to unpack in the trade-off between style and activism, whether one can exist w/the other or not. Cash is needed, how is this funded and by whom? Interesting that Marker is only mentioned as collaborator and Grin... isn't mentioned...then there are narrative films of the 2nd cinema that work toward the struggle, surely? I know what the author means as not quite enough, but again, there is a hole there.

xyzzzz__, Friday, 23 March 2012 20:29 (twelve years ago) link

four months pass...

RIP

Turangalila, Monday, 30 July 2012 10:29 (eleven years ago) link

RIP indeed. That link includes a video of the full version of La Jetée.

Arvo Pärt Chimp (Neil S), Monday, 30 July 2012 10:31 (eleven years ago) link

Rest In Peace.

EZ Snappin, Monday, 30 July 2012 13:30 (eleven years ago) link

odd that just yesterday I reserved The Last Bolshevik at the library.

Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Monday, 30 July 2012 13:51 (eleven years ago) link

My rep for repping De Palma aside, Chris Marker is/was my very favorite director. RIP

Eric H., Monday, 30 July 2012 14:00 (eleven years ago) link

oh shit.

RIP.

woof, Monday, 30 July 2012 14:03 (eleven years ago) link

reap

am0n, Monday, 30 July 2012 14:35 (eleven years ago) link

:(

funny-skrillex-bee_132455836669.gif (s1ocki), Monday, 30 July 2012 15:13 (eleven years ago) link

RIP. Sans Soleil is a movie I haven't watched in several years but I'm thinking about it all the time.

tylerw, Monday, 30 July 2012 15:29 (eleven years ago) link

I showed that video to a big time cat person and their response was "I want my 3 minutes back." I don't think I've ever come closer to crying at someone's wildly divergent take on a movie.

Eric H., Monday, 30 July 2012 15:31 (eleven years ago) link

Last time I looked, there was a Marker-style cat painted on a brick facade near my old job on West 26th St; wish I had pointed it out to you, Eric.

Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Monday, 30 July 2012 15:34 (eleven years ago) link

you should have said i want our years of friendship back xp

funny-skrillex-bee_132455836669.gif (s1ocki), Monday, 30 July 2012 15:34 (eleven years ago) link

Instead, I tied her down and forced her to watch all 3 hours of A Grin Without a Cat.

Eric H., Monday, 30 July 2012 15:36 (eleven years ago) link

All the while pointing out with every passing minute how awesome the movie is.

Eric H., Monday, 30 July 2012 15:37 (eleven years ago) link

Ehrenstein parses and supplements CM's Wiki entry:

http://fablog.ehrensteinland.com/2012/07/30/christian-francois-bouche-villeneuve-aka-chris-marker/

Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Monday, 30 July 2012 16:02 (eleven years ago) link

RIP. I've tried to hack Sans Soleil a couple of times but it always puts me to sleep; I ought to rectify that sometime soon.

Simon H., Monday, 30 July 2012 17:34 (eleven years ago) link

don't hack it, watch it

joaquin haus-partizan (s1ocki), Monday, 30 July 2012 17:34 (eleven years ago) link

usual bunch of Keyframe links (I wd esp point toward excerpt of Marker's piece on Vertigo that Glenn Kenny has):

http://www.fandor.com/blog/daily-chris-marker-1921-2012/

Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Monday, 30 July 2012 17:35 (eleven years ago) link

yes that was great

joaquin haus-partizan (s1ocki), Monday, 30 July 2012 17:35 (eleven years ago) link

oh, and the former Steve Shasta linked the Vertigo essay way above.

Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Monday, 30 July 2012 17:46 (eleven years ago) link

that vertigo essay's incredible.

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Monday, 30 July 2012 19:14 (eleven years ago) link

RIP, Cat-man.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 30 July 2012 20:46 (eleven years ago) link

RIP. Sans Soleil is such a beautiful movie

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2d4_YKpMQLc

wolves lacan, Monday, 30 July 2012 22:32 (eleven years ago) link

Brody, with a link to a 2003 interview that needs to be translated.

http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/movies/2012/07/in-memoriam-chris-marker.html

Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 31 July 2012 00:43 (eleven years ago) link

also, Film Comment has put a host of Marker material online:

http://www.filmcomment.com/issue/may-june-2003

http://www.filmcomment.com/issue/july-august-2003

Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 31 July 2012 00:49 (eleven years ago) link

Very sad to hear about this.

I'm Marker's senior by a dozen or so years. When he was a young journalist on Esprit magazine Chris wrote to me expressing admiration for the cat mosaics I was making at the time, and asking for advice on how to get established as a cat mosaicist himself. My response was that he should pose as a Maoist, then slowly work more and more cats and mosaics into his work.

I also suggested that Christian should change his name and make up some juicy lies about his past in order to make himself sound more mysterious, while at the same time refusing to confirm or deny anything. For instance, Chris was born in Neuilly-sur-Seine, which is a pretty boring and bourgeois suburb of Paris. This would never do for a Maoist-mosaicist, so I told him to spread the rumour that he came from Ulan-Bator in Mongolia. This he did, although not quite as consistently as I would have liked. He also claimed to have been a NASA parachutist, to have saved Fidel Castro's life on three occasions, to come from the future, and to suffer from a rare medical condition for which the only treatment was to drink a litre of boiling hot flamingo blood each week.

Only last week I emailed Chris suggesting he tell people he was suffering from a case of Morgellons picked up from Joni Mitchell, and had coloured threads in the shape of cats' whiskers growing on his upper lip. Unfortunately, Chris stopped responding to any of my communications in 1962. I think the success of La Jetée went to his head a bit, to be honest.

Oh well, see you back in the future, Chris!

Grampsy, Tuesday, 31 July 2012 02:36 (eleven years ago) link

Brody, with a link to a 2003 interview that needs to be translated.

i could give this a shot if you want

joaquin haus-partizan (s1ocki), Tuesday, 31 July 2012 05:24 (eleven years ago) link

thx, I was wondering if it was in the FC package

Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 31 July 2012 07:49 (eleven years ago) link

I'm Marker's senior by a dozen or so years.

Hang on.... what?

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 31 July 2012 09:17 (eleven years ago) link

Either that's a piece of absurdism, or penned by Manoel de Oliveira.

Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 31 July 2012 11:27 (eleven years ago) link

lol guys

joaquin haus-partizan (s1ocki), Tuesday, 31 July 2012 12:50 (eleven years ago) link

:-(

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 1 August 2012 22:13 (eleven years ago) link


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