― dave q, Friday, 2 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link
― nabisco, Friday, 2 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link
I guess I'm more or less saying that I think it's a category error, as it is in evolution, a temporary illusion rather than anything real.
― Martin Skidmore, Friday, 2 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Ron, Friday, 2 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link
― RJG, Friday, 2 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link
Of course progressive narratives have existed. I was thinking about The War Of The Worlds yesterday - one reason it and other disaster-stories were so popular is that to the educated Late Victorian mindset there was no way other than a science-fictional catastrophe that the march of progress could be halted.
― Tom, Friday, 2 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Martin Skidmore, Saturday, 3 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link
The first book I ever read where I thought (for more than a page at a time): this is in the same space politically as me.... k-blimey-o!!
― mark s, Saturday, 3 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link
― David, Saturday, 3 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link
i think the romans had stopped writing histories of themselves by the time the goths and vandals swept into town: earlier barbarians were not just part of the narrative, but proof of the progress (one of them even got quoted as saying THEY MAKE A DESOLATION AND CALL IT PEACE, which is one of the all-time great critiques of the concept of imperialism-as-progress)