also mohicans doesnt have hardcore mann vibes so w/e
― ice cr?m, Monday, 31 January 2011 23:05 (thirteen years ago) link
Manhunter is amazing. fuck Ralph Fiennes, he's a good actor but is he who you really think of when you imagine off-kilter serial killer? Noonan IS the Tooth Fairy.
― pf smangs (San Te), Monday, 31 January 2011 23:06 (thirteen years ago) link
also love The Insider, even tho there's only one bullet in it and it's in the mailbox
public enemies was a mixed bag visually - there was too much motion blur and artifacting, but there were some nicely shot scenes too. it did make me think about the possibilities re: shooting period stuff in DV... i reread From Hell last year and eddie campbell did such an amazing job on the nighttime scenes that I had to imagine what it'd be like to shoot them all in DV.
still think collateral is the best thing mann did in the 00s, especially for this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jmKR6evZRQQ
― marios balls in 3d for 3ds (Princess TamTam), Monday, 31 January 2011 23:08 (thirteen years ago) link
― ice cr?m, Monday, January 31, 2011 6:05 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark
heh, wrong
― marios balls in 3d for 3ds (Princess TamTam), Monday, 31 January 2011 23:09 (thirteen years ago) link
u just dont know what mann vibes really are mannn
DONT START W/ME TAMTAM
― ice cr?m, Monday, 31 January 2011 23:10 (thirteen years ago) link
lol anyway public enemies was uneven, but the high points were vv high, def some moments where i felt like i was seeing something new and brilliant in the world of movies
fukkin <3 collateral
― ullr saves (gbx), Monday, 31 January 2011 23:12 (thirteen years ago) link
collateral was dope but cruise and fox are both uncool tryhards which is somewhat off putting in combo, feel like it wouldve been better if the fox roll had been played by someone more chill
― ice cr?m, Monday, 31 January 2011 23:13 (thirteen years ago) link
Collateral would have been better served if Mann had held Javier Bardem in close-up for 159 minutes.
― Rich Lolwry (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 31 January 2011 23:18 (thirteen years ago) link
yo homie
― max, Monday, 31 January 2011 23:21 (thirteen years ago) link
manhunter's good but i always found it a bit cold - def need to see it again though, its been a long time
mohicans is just amazing. has some of my favorite mann movie weaponry, from the gunstock clubs to the long rifles and muskets. if you started a discussion about the best screen villains of the 90s, you'd have to start with Magua and gary oldman in the professional and work from there. and its genuinely stirring/moving in a way mann's never approached again. the end sequence, where the synthesized score drops out and is replaced w/the live celtic sounding track that plays throughout magua's pursuit, is breathtaking. and when they catch up with magua, it's russell means not the white protag who gets to exact vengeance. and it has guys saying 'kan-tuck-ee.' perfect movie basically.
― marios balls in 3d for 3ds (Princess TamTam), Monday, 31 January 2011 23:23 (thirteen years ago) link
never seen it
― ullr saves (gbx), Monday, 31 January 2011 23:24 (thirteen years ago) link
idk i shd try again... i like it but mann's thing is photographing cities, is it not?
― history mayne, Monday, 31 January 2011 23:28 (thirteen years ago) link
(+ go-fast boats)
when i go into a mann film i am fiending for that extreme stylized cosmic shit, mohicans is cool but its sort of a tease as far as hardcore mann vibes, its too human
― ice cr?m, Monday, 31 January 2011 23:31 (thirteen years ago) link
Day-Lewis is inhuman!
― Rich Lolwry (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 31 January 2011 23:34 (thirteen years ago) link
It makes perfect sense that Mann chose one of the most popular shitty classics ever inflicted on totally suspecting high school students.
― Rich Lolwry (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 31 January 2011 23:35 (thirteen years ago) link
hah yeah DDL actually gives the worst performance in that movie, but it's possible that it's just not a very rewarding role.
cruise is awesome in collateral btw. foxx is good in it too but he's more suited to playing scared cab drivers than badass undercover agents, he doesnt bring much physicality to the table which is what mann generally demands of his leading bros
public enemies is on tv right now, my favorite scene is when purvis guns down pretty boy floyd in an orchard... cant believe channing tatum was in this
― marios balls in 3d for 3ds (Princess TamTam), Monday, 31 January 2011 23:41 (thirteen years ago) link
Would smh Billy Crudup.
― Rich Lolwry (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 31 January 2011 23:41 (thirteen years ago) link
*downloads mohicans*
― caek, Monday, 31 January 2011 23:44 (thirteen years ago) link
lol at "leading bros", that is basically it. who is the best leading bro?
― caek, Monday, 31 January 2011 23:45 (thirteen years ago) link
"miami vice" is great but i still think it's a tad long
"collateral" is better & also has some of his most breathtaking scenes, altho cruise chews some scenery in that bitch like it's big league chew
still think "ali" is hella underrated even by mann stans
― lilwayne.quizrewards4u.com (J0rdan S.), Monday, 31 January 2011 23:46 (thirteen years ago) link
That's the one where Jon Voight as FDR rises unaided from his wheelchair, walks into the ring, and knocks out Foreman, right
― Rich Lolwry (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 31 January 2011 23:48 (thirteen years ago) link
Collateral is fantastic too. think I bought that dvd the day it came out
― pf smangs (San Te), Monday, 31 January 2011 23:48 (thirteen years ago) link
i think "ali" his most beautifully shot movie
― lilwayne.quizrewards4u.com (J0rdan S.), Monday, 31 January 2011 23:49 (thirteen years ago) link
I would read a contrarian take on Ali; at the time I didn't think his mythmaking worked when supporting an actual legend. I need to rewatch it.
― Rich Lolwry (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 31 January 2011 23:50 (thirteen years ago) link
will smith i just cant, its a tragedy, dont want to talk abt it
― ice cr?m, Monday, 31 January 2011 23:51 (thirteen years ago) link
Ali's a great looking movie with an amazing opening, that shot of ali walking out of the tunnel at the stadium in zaire, and a cool ted levine cameo - but it's kinda sterile and dull and does nothing to illuminate what kind of man Ali was, and also is maybe overly reverent towards him imo
― marios balls in 3d for 3ds (Princess TamTam), Monday, 31 January 2011 23:52 (thirteen years ago) link
tho it was a little inappropriate that they retconned Ali into defeating the entire Viet Cong army
― pf smangs (San Te), Monday, 31 January 2011 23:53 (thirteen years ago) link
i think that if you view mann's films thru an aesthetic lens first & then consider everything else afterword, "ali" comes out in a much better light
that being said it's not like i have a problem w/ sports biopics or anything
― lilwayne.quizrewards4u.com (J0rdan S.), Monday, 31 January 2011 23:53 (thirteen years ago) link
but it's kinda sterile and dull and does nothing to illuminate what kind of man Ali was, and also is maybe overly reverent towards him imo
― marios balls in 3d for 3ds (Princess TamTam), Monday, January 31, 2011 6:52 PM (36 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
yeah basically typical biopic trap, also will smith apparently plays ali
― ice cr?m, Monday, 31 January 2011 23:54 (thirteen years ago) link
ice cr?m is being so unjiggy right now
― lilwayne.quizrewards4u.com (J0rdan S.), Monday, 31 January 2011 23:55 (thirteen years ago) link
imagining what Scarface would have been like if Mann and not De Palma had directed
― pf smangs (San Te), Monday, 31 January 2011 23:55 (thirteen years ago) link
would've loved to have seen an Ali movie that portrayed him as a monster instead of this safe recycling of shit we already saw in When We Were Kings
― marios balls in 3d for 3ds (Princess TamTam), Monday, 31 January 2011 23:56 (thirteen years ago) link
i rewatched ali a few months ago -- it just kind of disintegrates into tedium rly, basically just recreating things that happened and were documented, but there is gold in there too
― history mayne, Monday, 31 January 2011 23:56 (thirteen years ago) link
http://vjmorton.files.wordpress.com/2007/09/ali-greatest.jpg
― pf smangs (San Te), Monday, 31 January 2011 23:58 (thirteen years ago) link
heat is really fucking long and i have things to do. collateral is maybe the only tom cruise movie where i dont want to vomit all the way through. i feel like mann is the only director who uses video where i feel like it looks great *as* video. like it seems like it comes from the same pot of alchemised shit that makes encore seem epic. i totally love that song anyway tho
― plax (ico), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 00:02 (thirteen years ago) link
btw i wasnt paying attn when ali was on tv but i have no idea what makes it any diff from like walk the line or smthg
― plax (ico), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 00:03 (thirteen years ago) link
walk the line is better
― marios balls in 3d for 3ds (Princess TamTam), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 00:04 (thirteen years ago) link
not that ive seen it
but i bet i'd be way more into it!
biopics are usually horribly awful and all exactly the same
― plax (ico), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 00:05 (thirteen years ago) link
except Before Night Falls and Carlos.
― Rich Lolwry (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 00:07 (thirteen years ago) link
i find it hard to think b4 nite falls is any good not bc of anything to do w/ the movie but bc schnabel is such a joke of a painter
― plax (ico), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 00:08 (thirteen years ago) link
he is maybe the worst painter of all time including this girl who was in my class who. i mean i dont wanna even get started.
― plax (ico), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 00:09 (thirteen years ago) link
that reminds me i need to do that Prefontaine vs. Without Limits poll i was planning on
― marios balls in 3d for 3ds (Princess TamTam), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 00:10 (thirteen years ago) link
heat is really fucking long and i have things to do
You're not working yet, son. Make time imo.
― ENBB, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 00:10 (thirteen years ago) link
Lucky for all of us he became a much better director.
― Rich Lolwry (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 00:17 (thirteen years ago) link