NO NO NO!!!!!!!!!!!
I hated this movie when it came out, hate it now. Rent Happiness instead.
― Beatrix Kiddo, Thursday, 7 February 2008 17:04 (sixteen years ago) link
Happiness is good too. i have have movies on VHS.
― Roberto Spiralli, Thursday, 7 February 2008 17:07 (sixteen years ago) link
have have = have both
good for you.
― s1ocki, Thursday, 7 February 2008 17:11 (sixteen years ago) link
i don't have currently have a VCR, tho, so it's not all that good for me.
― Roberto Spiralli, Thursday, 7 February 2008 17:13 (sixteen years ago) link
bad for you.
― s1ocki, Thursday, 7 February 2008 17:13 (sixteen years ago) link
i like this thread title, a lot
― gff, Thursday, 7 February 2008 17:13 (sixteen years ago) link
I liked American Beauty when it came out. Don't know if I'd like it so much now, but my initial opinion was positive.
― Rock Hardy, Thursday, 7 February 2008 17:16 (sixteen years ago) link
this movie is a crime against humanity
― Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 7 February 2008 17:46 (sixteen years ago) link
American Beauty taught me that the suburbs are like, so phony.
― burt_stanton, Thursday, 7 February 2008 17:46 (sixteen years ago) link
I booed and threw popcorn at the screen when I saw this in the theater.
― sexyDancer, Thursday, 7 February 2008 17:47 (sixteen years ago) link
actors love this movie for some reason
― Tracer Hand, Thursday, 7 February 2008 17:48 (sixteen years ago) link
actors are, for the most part, stupid and vain.
― sexyDancer, Thursday, 7 February 2008 17:50 (sixteen years ago) link
Rent Happiness instead.
or Storytelling for Solondz' American Beauty zing
― Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 7 February 2008 17:51 (sixteen years ago) link
http://filmfreakcentral.net/dvdreviews/americangump.htm
plastic bag in the wind = box of chocolates
― kenan, Thursday, 7 February 2008 17:51 (sixteen years ago) link
i loathe the tone of that article but it's weird to remember that in the same year we had american beauty, office space, and fight club -- each of them a "male-re-empowerment fantasy revolving around an ordinary guy telling his boss to fuck off"
― Tracer Hand, Thursday, 7 February 2008 17:58 (sixteen years ago) link
of the three, american beauty was the worst -- narratively it rigged the deck by inserting the blackmail plot point, meaning spacey's middle aged revolt has no consequences for him or his family
― gff, Thursday, 7 February 2008 18:15 (sixteen years ago) link
Election and eXistenz better than all three
― Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 7 February 2008 18:22 (sixteen years ago) link
election's male lead also had a mid-life crisis which, although manifested differently, still results in facial injury.. though really it's broderick's teacher colleague who represents the reality of what happens to guys like kevin spacey's lester: they don't get shot by their gay right-wing neighbor, they play in a rock band in their garages and get sent to jail for banging underage nookie
― Tracer Hand, Thursday, 7 February 2008 18:31 (sixteen years ago) link
gah kenan's article has now infected my writing
Rock Hardy OTM
― HI DERE, Thursday, 7 February 2008 18:33 (sixteen years ago) link
Liking that movie got me into one of the biggest arguments I've ever had with my wife.
― Rock Hardy, Thursday, 7 February 2008 18:48 (sixteen years ago) link
this is still a three star movie - does that count as repping?
― blueski, Thursday, 7 February 2008 18:53 (sixteen years ago) link
i thought it was amazing when it came out
saw it a few years later and...no
― latebloomer, Thursday, 7 February 2008 18:55 (sixteen years ago) link
i don't think it's badly made though--it's got some funny and well-acted moments. it's just really vapid and smug.
― latebloomer, Thursday, 7 February 2008 19:00 (sixteen years ago) link
"How ya like gettin' it from tha king...?"
― C. Grisso/McCain, Thursday, 7 February 2008 19:01 (sixteen years ago) link
-- Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, February 7, 2008 12:51 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Link
american beauty is one of the worst movies ive ever seen but id still rather watch it again than fucking storytelling
― and what, Thursday, 7 February 2008 19:05 (sixteen years ago) link
^^otm
― Nicole, Thursday, 7 February 2008 19:06 (sixteen years ago) link
Not the worst thing around. Not the best. Probably about average as far as Best Picuture Oscar winners (since 1976) goes.
― Gukbe, Thursday, 7 February 2008 19:07 (sixteen years ago) link
"your story was a piece of shit"
^^ only worthwhile thing in storytelling.
― gff, Thursday, 7 February 2008 19:08 (sixteen years ago) link
not to be cap'n save-a-mo but the american beauty trashing in storytelling was pretty funny
― latebloomer, Thursday, 7 February 2008 19:08 (sixteen years ago) link
has calling out the vapidity & hypocrisy of upper-middle class american life ever been original?
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 7 February 2008 19:15 (sixteen years ago) link
i mean like henry james was doing the shit 150 years ago
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 7 February 2008 19:16 (sixteen years ago) link
no titty there BIG HOOS
― gff, Thursday, 7 February 2008 19:16 (sixteen years ago) link
fwiw I agree that Storytelling is not that good but it has a couple of really funny moments (the "censored" sex scene, the American Beauty parody)
― Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 7 February 2008 19:17 (sixteen years ago) link
i don't remember the american beauty parody at all.
― gff, Thursday, 7 February 2008 19:19 (sixteen years ago) link
i just threw an upper-middle class american out of my hotel for being vapid & hypocritical
― and what, Thursday, 7 February 2008 19:20 (sixteen years ago) link
its very brief - basically one of the characters in the second story arc shoots a film about the beauty of a plastic bag in the wind etc
― Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 7 February 2008 19:21 (sixteen years ago) link
clever
― gff, Thursday, 7 February 2008 19:23 (sixteen years ago) link
the plastic bag scene
big boobs in the window
that's about it
todd soldonz is a piece of shit
― M@tt He1ges0n, Thursday, 7 February 2008 19:24 (sixteen years ago) link
it made chris cooper a star, that's cool
― gff, Thursday, 7 February 2008 19:25 (sixteen years ago) link
^^ tru i guess maybe in that way it contributed to making the bourne movies cool, so props for that
― M@tt He1ges0n, Thursday, 7 February 2008 19:26 (sixteen years ago) link
oh man i totally forgot dude was in this... <3 <3 <3 chris cooper
― and what, Thursday, 7 February 2008 19:27 (sixteen years ago) link
never understood why people are so eager to hate on solondz
― Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 7 February 2008 19:29 (sixteen years ago) link
remember when wesley whats his face was supposed to be the next joaquin phoenix?
― omar little, Thursday, 7 February 2008 19:39 (sixteen years ago) link
because he made movies after happiness
xpost
― Gukbe, Thursday, 7 February 2008 19:39 (sixteen years ago) link
hhahaha yeah he was in ghost rider
― latebloomer, Thursday, 7 February 2008 19:40 (sixteen years ago) link
and... P2!
― gff, Thursday, 7 February 2008 19:41 (sixteen years ago) link
and some western about a mining town that nobody saw
and a costume drama with kate hudson and heath ledger (rip) that i did see. it sucked.
― gff, Thursday, 7 February 2008 19:42 (sixteen years ago) link
oh man he sucked in P2
― Alex in Baltimore, Thursday, 7 February 2008 19:50 (sixteen years ago) link