Firefox issues

it still keeps fucking quitting! why fucking update something if you're going to make it worse? WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY

how is it possible to put something this shit out there? are the firefox developers all complete cunts, or just retarded?

SO MUCH ANGER IN ME

obv. a personal vendetta against you -- must be why nobody else is having problems.

Maybe the firefox developers just really love Radiohead.

obv. a personal vendetta against you

i actually genuinely believe this

like i'm not doing anything out of the fucking ordinary so WHY DOESN'T IT JUST FUCKING WORK AND STOP FUCKING ME AROUND WHY WHY WHY

would be easier to get used to Safari tbh.... (fuck a mac personally, but that's just me)

ew

i'm going to try sea monkey

i got used to chrome in the brief period i had it - really liked how light it was. completely sucks that they can't be bothered to make it compatible with this mac version.

also it's such a peeve of mine when people respond to computer issues with 'well PCs are shit!" or "well macs are shit!" - uhhh THAT'S SO HELPFUL

FF4 beta is really not looking good AT ALL yet (ever?).

Flaky and dog-slow it's actaully a regression for me on both machines used it on including home machine.

Was perfectly fine with 3.6 apart from teh occasional crash :(

What specs does your computer have that makes it Chrome incompatible?

Chrome needs 10.5.6. Am guessing Lex is on Tiger. Lex: Have you tried Camino? Firefox rendering without all the crap. It's probably the best 10.4 browser.

Or, actually, Omniweb works on 10.4.8 -- it has the latest version of webkit (same engine as Chrome and Safari). It looks dog ugly when you first run it, you have to turn off manic toolbars etc.

i have 10.4.11

I was just trying not to be a booster for any OS really. Although it didn't come out that way :/ Fair enough.

Use whichever causes you the least issues of any kind. And then SSS TTTT FFFF UUUUUUUUUUUPP trying to "convert" other people to your own experience.

Thrillingly, this debate has moved on to phones lately.

i'm finding nu-firefox quicker but a LOT more prone to random - completely random - freezes and crashes.

i briefly used chrome when i upgraded to 10.5 - a matter of months later, that hard drive EXPIRED - so i've had to return to this one. i hate everything about this situation. i sometimes dream of how much better my year would have been if my computer had just fucking WORKED LIKE IT WAS SUPPOSED TO

lol I was going to suggest upgrading your OS but now I know better

is camino pretty light? been recommended sea monkey, and have downloaded - was gonna try to transfer bookmarks etc later, once i've done this work

oh god i just remembered how many sites i rely on cookies to access, and how many passwords i just have...no idea, none whatsoever, about

*cries*

i would really like to upgrade my OS but i don't know how

pretty much they never do. sorry (unhelpful again). would recommend learning to deal with it + take regular backups.

tip to remembering passwords - never ever "save" them :P

sorry... bit harsh haha (working in IT too long). works for me though. store in brain.

You can often transfer your saved passwords when you move between browsers, no?

store in brain.

yeah this doesn't work.

You can often transfer your saved passwords when you move between browsers, no?

i do hope so!

store them elsewhere than your browser would probably be the best path (sorry I don't have any recommendations but others will)... I pretty much completely store bookmarks online these days for that reason. can't find a browser that doesn't piss me off anymore so been chopping & changing like crazy for 6 months.

It should be very easy to upgrade if you have an installation disk:

- insert disk
- click "Install/Upgrade OS" (or something similar)
- let machine reboot
- select yr language and "upgrade OS"
- wait for install to finish
- profit

Reading through this may help: http://lifehacker.com/#!315637/upgrade-mac-os-x-to-leopard

If you don't have an upgrade disk, preface these directions with:
- go to Apple.com or an Apple store and get an OS installation/upgrade disk

yeah i'm always tempted to switch but i just really really like familiarity in my browsers - it's a tool for me, not something i want to have to constantly think about. i don't understand why so few seem to be adequate, is it that hard? i mean a lot of them seem to be ALMOST great but not quite.

i think i might get gareth to help me upgrade.

a lot of them seem to be ALMOST great but not quite.

Opera is the undisputed king of the entire cunted world at this game.

All I want too is a simple, fast, secure, transparent "don't need to think" functional browser requiring minimal, if any, extensions.

Can't believe it but I'm currently digging IE 9 RC (!!)

Camino is really lightweight. Seamonkey is shit: it's like Firefox, but with a Mail and chat app baked in. (It's the direct descendent of Netscape).

a lot of them seem to be ALMOST great but not quite.
Opera is the undisputed king of the entire cunted world at this game.

And if you dare go onto the forums to ask about these bugs, you'll be met with a chorus of "Opera has never gone wrong for me so the 500 people who reported this clearly have no idea how to use a computer, lock thread". Or at best "how dare you come on here and complain when you haven't deleted the profile of all your bookmarks and preferences to see if it works?" Uh, cz actually I like having bookmarks and preferences, and if having some bookmarks is making my browser crash randomly and not load sites then maybe the browser should be fixed. Y'know?

Every browser has like 2 or 3 things about it which I totally love and the others don't do, and 2 or 3 things about it which make me swear at it several times a day.

Except IE. There's nothing I love about IE. Maybe that's something.

I love that IE is the only browser to do full-page caching properly. None of this "to go back we have to resubmit a form" bollocks.

I always thought that was a security measure.

I usually google "speed up firefox" whenever I install it. Then I end up at some firefox configuration website and following step by step instructions to change certain things from true to false, etc. The nice thing about doing this is that when I search for something in the top right toolbar the results pop up in a new tab now.

And having all those firefox plugins to choose from is nice. I rarely get pop-up ads anymore.

i have switched to camino. let us see how this goes.

any good twitter client for camino? ideally one that works within the browser, like echofon on firefox - which popped up in the bottom right hand corner.

No, it's just because they don't have the entire page stored and so would have to get it from the server. What *should* happen is they keep the entire page and just redisplay (that's what the specs say, too). But it's a bit more complicated now that there are big dynamic pages being changed by javascript, so often it's not possible to go right "back" in any meaningful sense. So they don't even try.

(There is a security aspect in that WebKit's page cache doesn't operate at all on https pages, unlike IEs.) xp to Alba.

http://support.mozilla.com/fy-NL/questions/780884

This is the one you're talking about, yes? So in IE it would cache the whole page in a way that meant there was no risk of you accidentally buying two toasters when you click the back button? Nice.

Yes, exactly. You can see it too if you eg load a Graun page in both and then go offline. Hit back on Safari/Firefox and it'll complain about not having network, IE will just show the last page, fast. (This is really a pain on iPad/iPhone, though they're getting better about caching the live page there)

Release Candidate for Firefox 4.0 is out - http://blog.mozilla.com/blog/2011/03/09/mozilla-firefox-4-release-candidate-for-windows-mac-and-linux-now-available/

my adblockPlus menu button thing has a 'recommend us on facebook' button on the bottom of it. can anyone else confirm this? this is exactly the kind of garbage i use adblock to filter out...

(firefox 4)

ha, it's an FAQ

http://adblockplus.org/en/faq_customization#facebook_remove

Lex: Have you tried Camino? Firefox rendering without all the crap. It's probably the best 10.4 browser.

i installed camino, and have had NO PROBLEMS in the month since. thanks! :)

Anyone notice Flash performance is kinda terrible in 4? I've noticed this on both Mac and Windows.

Firefox recommends you install this important security update: Firefox 6.0

*click*

The following add-ons are incompatible with this version of Firefox and will be disabled: pretty much fucking all of them - including my AV Safe Search. Thanks for the extra lack of security and reduced functionality you tits.

I should just stick with Chrome all the time tbh.

Firefox is checking for updates to your extensions, and will shortly tell you it can't find any.

Fun with Firefox

Fun with Firefox

don't say i didn't warn you...

Firefox is checking for updates to your extensions, and will shortly tell you it can't find any.

It found one (.NET framework assistant) - which I had previously switched off. It has now froze trying to install it (or it's a huge update - no progress bar to indicate um progress).

Did they force an update again while I wasn't looking? Suddenly started going so slow last night I had to CTRL-ALT-DELETE. It just took five minutes - literally five minutes - to go from start to ILX. Which, granted, is the most flash and java intensive site on the internet.