Firefox issues

Chrome needs 10.5.6. Am guessing Lex is on Tiger. Lex: Have you tried Camino? Firefox rendering without all the crap. It's probably the best 10.4 browser.

Or, actually, Omniweb works on 10.4.8 -- it has the latest version of webkit (same engine as Chrome and Safari). It looks dog ugly when you first run it, you have to turn off manic toolbars etc.

i have 10.4.11

I was just trying not to be a booster for any OS really. Although it didn't come out that way :/ Fair enough.

Use whichever causes you the least issues of any kind. And then SSS TTTT FFFF UUUUUUUUUUUPP trying to "convert" other people to your own experience.

Thrillingly, this debate has moved on to phones lately.

i'm finding nu-firefox quicker but a LOT more prone to random - completely random - freezes and crashes.

i briefly used chrome when i upgraded to 10.5 - a matter of months later, that hard drive EXPIRED - so i've had to return to this one. i hate everything about this situation. i sometimes dream of how much better my year would have been if my computer had just fucking WORKED LIKE IT WAS SUPPOSED TO

lol I was going to suggest upgrading your OS but now I know better

is camino pretty light? been recommended sea monkey, and have downloaded - was gonna try to transfer bookmarks etc later, once i've done this work

oh god i just remembered how many sites i rely on cookies to access, and how many passwords i just have...no idea, none whatsoever, about

*cries*

i would really like to upgrade my OS but i don't know how

pretty much they never do. sorry (unhelpful again). would recommend learning to deal with it + take regular backups.

tip to remembering passwords - never ever "save" them :P

sorry... bit harsh haha (working in IT too long). works for me though. store in brain.

You can often transfer your saved passwords when you move between browsers, no?

store in brain.

yeah this doesn't work.

You can often transfer your saved passwords when you move between browsers, no?

i do hope so!

store them elsewhere than your browser would probably be the best path (sorry I don't have any recommendations but others will)... I pretty much completely store bookmarks online these days for that reason. can't find a browser that doesn't piss me off anymore so been chopping & changing like crazy for 6 months.

It should be very easy to upgrade if you have an installation disk:

- insert disk
- click "Install/Upgrade OS" (or something similar)
- let machine reboot
- select yr language and "upgrade OS"
- wait for install to finish
- profit

Reading through this may help: http://lifehacker.com/#!315637/upgrade-mac-os-x-to-leopard

If you don't have an upgrade disk, preface these directions with:
- go to Apple.com or an Apple store and get an OS installation/upgrade disk

yeah i'm always tempted to switch but i just really really like familiarity in my browsers - it's a tool for me, not something i want to have to constantly think about. i don't understand why so few seem to be adequate, is it that hard? i mean a lot of them seem to be ALMOST great but not quite.

i think i might get gareth to help me upgrade.

a lot of them seem to be ALMOST great but not quite.

Opera is the undisputed king of the entire cunted world at this game.

All I want too is a simple, fast, secure, transparent "don't need to think" functional browser requiring minimal, if any, extensions.

Can't believe it but I'm currently digging IE 9 RC (!!)

Camino is really lightweight. Seamonkey is shit: it's like Firefox, but with a Mail and chat app baked in. (It's the direct descendent of Netscape).

a lot of them seem to be ALMOST great but not quite.
Opera is the undisputed king of the entire cunted world at this game.

And if you dare go onto the forums to ask about these bugs, you'll be met with a chorus of "Opera has never gone wrong for me so the 500 people who reported this clearly have no idea how to use a computer, lock thread". Or at best "how dare you come on here and complain when you haven't deleted the profile of all your bookmarks and preferences to see if it works?" Uh, cz actually I like having bookmarks and preferences, and if having some bookmarks is making my browser crash randomly and not load sites then maybe the browser should be fixed. Y'know?

Every browser has like 2 or 3 things about it which I totally love and the others don't do, and 2 or 3 things about it which make me swear at it several times a day.

Except IE. There's nothing I love about IE. Maybe that's something.

I love that IE is the only browser to do full-page caching properly. None of this "to go back we have to resubmit a form" bollocks.

I always thought that was a security measure.

I usually google "speed up firefox" whenever I install it. Then I end up at some firefox configuration website and following step by step instructions to change certain things from true to false, etc. The nice thing about doing this is that when I search for something in the top right toolbar the results pop up in a new tab now.

And having all those firefox plugins to choose from is nice. I rarely get pop-up ads anymore.

i have switched to camino. let us see how this goes.

any good twitter client for camino? ideally one that works within the browser, like echofon on firefox - which popped up in the bottom right hand corner.

No, it's just because they don't have the entire page stored and so would have to get it from the server. What *should* happen is they keep the entire page and just redisplay (that's what the specs say, too). But it's a bit more complicated now that there are big dynamic pages being changed by javascript, so often it's not possible to go right "back" in any meaningful sense. So they don't even try.

(There is a security aspect in that WebKit's page cache doesn't operate at all on https pages, unlike IEs.) xp to Alba.

http://support.mozilla.com/fy-NL/questions/780884

This is the one you're talking about, yes? So in IE it would cache the whole page in a way that meant there was no risk of you accidentally buying two toasters when you click the back button? Nice.

Yes, exactly. You can see it too if you eg load a Graun page in both and then go offline. Hit back on Safari/Firefox and it'll complain about not having network, IE will just show the last page, fast. (This is really a pain on iPad/iPhone, though they're getting better about caching the live page there)

Release Candidate for Firefox 4.0 is out - http://blog.mozilla.com/blog/2011/03/09/mozilla-firefox-4-release-candidate-for-windows-mac-and-linux-now-available/

my adblockPlus menu button thing has a 'recommend us on facebook' button on the bottom of it. can anyone else confirm this? this is exactly the kind of garbage i use adblock to filter out...

(firefox 4)

ha, it's an FAQ

http://adblockplus.org/en/faq_customization#facebook_remove

Lex: Have you tried Camino? Firefox rendering without all the crap. It's probably the best 10.4 browser.

i installed camino, and have had NO PROBLEMS in the month since. thanks! :)

Anyone notice Flash performance is kinda terrible in 4? I've noticed this on both Mac and Windows.

Firefox recommends you install this important security update: Firefox 6.0

*click*

The following add-ons are incompatible with this version of Firefox and will be disabled: pretty much fucking all of them - including my AV Safe Search. Thanks for the extra lack of security and reduced functionality you tits.

I should just stick with Chrome all the time tbh.

Firefox is checking for updates to your extensions, and will shortly tell you it can't find any.

Fun with Firefox

Fun with Firefox

don't say i didn't warn you...

Firefox is checking for updates to your extensions, and will shortly tell you it can't find any.

It found one (.NET framework assistant) - which I had previously switched off. It has now froze trying to install it (or it's a huge update - no progress bar to indicate um progress).

Did they force an update again while I wasn't looking? Suddenly started going so slow last night I had to CTRL-ALT-DELETE. It just took five minutes - literally five minutes - to go from start to ILX. Which, granted, is the most flash and java intensive site on the internet.

I have a Firefox error. It makes the ILX window big enough to read all the text.

dammit, suddenly the latest autoupdate makes firefox incompatible with my version of OSX, 10.4.11

"You cannot use the application "Firefox" with this version of Mac OS X"

really, why fuckin not? i could this morning... i am on chrome which is very bad.

anybody have any ideas here? i keep googling around to find which version will still work, and what just changed today, but i'm not having much luck.

Firefox versions incrementing faster than street numbers in J.G. Ballard's Concentration City.

this is why I disable auto update on EVERYTHING

There's basically no good Mac browser right now. Safari has this insane "lol i killed your tab" bullshit from iOS, Chrome is mental, Firefox is a heap, Camino is dog-slow, OmniWeb is ancient, Opera is Opera.

The fastest browser in all the speed tests on this machine is actually IE9 running under Windows. Lunacy.

I don't really like Safari (tho I'm using it), but I'm not sure what you mean w/ 'lol I killed your tab'? issue. Is it something I just haven't noticed?

The FF auto-update from last night is actually running a good bit faster for me, fingers crossed that it stays that way. There's a particular method of handling RSS feeds that makes Firefox my preferred browser, but I've been skating on the edge of going to Safari or Chrome as the main one.

If you keep lots of tabs open in Safari, eventually it starts purging the oldest ones (to save memory). When you click on an old tab, it reloads it from the server. So not only do you have to wait, but the page could have changed and you also lose anything you had typed into a form on that tab.

It's the same behaviour they have in Safari ON IPHONE. But iPhones have very little memory, and this Mac has a lot, so it's a stupid thing to copy.

The latest Chrome has something weird in the CSS that is breaking lots of sites for me (including ILX on the default theme)

That expains why I've never encountered that issue – I've never have more than a half dozen tabs open. My big beef w/ Safari is the way incredibly ugly and jittery way it handles text/line/layout during resizing.

xp i was seeing that too.. reinstalled the stable branch and now fonts are rendering like shit

Why does my monitor dim when firefox is displaying a page with a black or dark background? It's v annoying!