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i5 in 13" MBP is pretty signif. hopefully the rumoured screen res is off point tho

ofwgktaxlrmde (cozen), Wednesday, 23 February 2011 22:14 (thirteen years ago) link

intel graphics = shit tho

Jefferson Mansplain (DG), Wednesday, 23 February 2011 22:15 (thirteen years ago) link

cozen, with Apple stuff a faster processor isn't as significant as say a new chassis design or a retina display in terms of resale value. That's what I meant by significant. milo might only lose $50-100 per item off the back of these new product.

Head goes goes goes (Schlafsack), Wednesday, 23 February 2011 22:22 (thirteen years ago) link

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Head goes goes goes (Schlafsack), Wednesday, 23 February 2011 22:22 (thirteen years ago) link

agreed, yup

ofwgktaxlrmde (cozen), Wednesday, 23 February 2011 22:30 (thirteen years ago) link

I was never getting an ipad but now that I'm going back to skewl to learn Chinese I have two distinct reasons (Pleco and Pages) that together make the ipad the only proposition on the market.

http://a1.phobos.apple.com/us/r1000/013/Purple/5a/46/13/mzl.cpsrawps.480x480-75.jpg

Writing Chinese characters on a trackpad (or worse, with a mouse) is a disaster.

― Head goes goes goes (Schlafsack), Thursday, February 24, 2011 6:02 AM (2 hours ago) Bookmark

you can use the MBP trackpad to write characters as well! it's pretty good actually

Neu! romancer (dayo), Thursday, 24 February 2011 00:13 (thirteen years ago) link

Fuck a hires display unless they get resolution independence. Screen on MacBook Air 11" is some squinting shit.

stet, Thursday, 24 February 2011 00:41 (thirteen years ago) link

you can use the MBP trackpad to write characters as well! it's pretty good actually

― Neu! romancer (dayo), Thursday, 24 February 2011 11:13 (1 hour ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

It's hell because I can't see where my finger is. I keep jabbing the backspace/char suggestion bits and stuffing everything up. Much easier to just have it draw under your finger.

Also, Pleco developed its own char recognition software which is excellent and craps all over Apple's horrible flaky thing.

Head goes goes goes (Schlafsack), Thursday, 24 February 2011 01:58 (thirteen years ago) link

quadcore CPUs? O_o

Neu! romancer (dayo), Thursday, 24 February 2011 13:46 (thirteen years ago) link

I dunno shit about graphix cards but are the ones in the new update well-regarded? 1GB of DDR RAM seems significant

Neu! romancer (dayo), Thursday, 24 February 2011 13:48 (thirteen years ago) link

http://www.notebookcheck.net/Intel-HD-Graphics-3000.37948.0.html

Romford Spring (DG), Thursday, 24 February 2011 13:57 (thirteen years ago) link

the new 15" and 17" ones have amd/ati chips

Neu! romancer (dayo), Thursday, 24 February 2011 14:02 (thirteen years ago) link

Lion beta is out. Has new Mail.

stet, Thursday, 24 February 2011 14:03 (thirteen years ago) link

they're listed on the right, under 'class 2' xp

intel graphics, hmph

Romford Spring (DG), Thursday, 24 February 2011 14:07 (thirteen years ago) link

Thunderbolt sounds good, even if I have SCSI daisy chain horror flashbacks.

dan selzer, Thursday, 24 February 2011 14:11 (thirteen years ago) link

Battery life is way down on the new MBPs, isn't it? 7 hours even on the 17 inch?

stet, Thursday, 24 February 2011 14:12 (thirteen years ago) link

"Apple is using a new, more rigorous battery test that measures the results you can expect in the real world", apparently.

joe, Thursday, 24 February 2011 14:20 (thirteen years ago) link

wonder if there's any market for a 'desktop' version of the macbook pro - remove the battery, fill with a bigger graphix card/more cooling etc.

smaller and more portable than an iMac

Neu! romancer (dayo), Thursday, 24 February 2011 14:25 (thirteen years ago) link

Wow, the entire MacBook Pro line is up to one hundred times as fast as the previous generation.*

* Actual speed increase 10%.

James Mitchell, Thursday, 24 February 2011 15:02 (thirteen years ago) link

new mail looks bollocks

Romford Spring (DG), Thursday, 24 February 2011 15:04 (thirteen years ago) link

holy shit, Lion is going to be great:

"Auto Save, which automatically saves your documents as you work"

Euler, Thursday, 24 February 2011 15:10 (thirteen years ago) link

crazy

Romford Spring (DG), Thursday, 24 February 2011 15:13 (thirteen years ago) link

£2100 for the 17"!

Romford Spring (DG), Thursday, 24 February 2011 15:28 (thirteen years ago) link

Seems to have OS X Server built in. That'll be sweet.

stet, Thursday, 24 February 2011 15:44 (thirteen years ago) link

"Auto Save, which automatically saves your documents as you work"

i suspect this is actually a marketing way of describing pretty fundamental changes that makes it sound like much less of a deal than it really is

caek, Thursday, 24 February 2011 15:45 (thirteen years ago) link

prolly but it still sounds hilarious

Euler, Thursday, 24 February 2011 15:49 (thirteen years ago) link

Like the sound of versions, too.

stet, Thursday, 24 February 2011 15:49 (thirteen years ago) link

auto-save is probably gonna be like instant time machine right

Neu! romancer (dayo), Thursday, 24 February 2011 15:51 (thirteen years ago) link

i assume itll be like google docs

max, Thursday, 24 February 2011 15:56 (thirteen years ago) link

Man, I thought my MBP from last year was pretty friggin awesome but these are next-level

mh, Thursday, 24 February 2011 16:03 (thirteen years ago) link

wonder if Versions will have a k00l diff view for programming

jan špankwajer.com (diamonddave85), Thursday, 24 February 2011 16:23 (thirteen years ago) link

if this is implemented at the file system level, which that guy who reviews each major revision for ars technica has been going on about since ~10.3, then it's a massive change.

caek, Thursday, 24 February 2011 16:49 (thirteen years ago) link

need to go 15" to get grafix right?

pizzlemank (cozen), Thursday, 24 February 2011 17:43 (thirteen years ago) link

yes you need to spend at least £1500 to get a mediocre card rising to £1850 for a slightly less mediocre card

apple really need to sort this shit out :(

Romford Spring (DG), Thursday, 24 February 2011 17:48 (thirteen years ago) link

could the 15" handle bejewelled on facebook tho

pizzlemank (cozen), Thursday, 24 February 2011 17:51 (thirteen years ago) link

lots of page outs probably

Romford Spring (DG), Thursday, 24 February 2011 17:51 (thirteen years ago) link

Finally, after all this time of documents not saving themselves, Apple comes to the rescue in 2011 with Auto Save. Where would we be without Steve Jobs?

egregious fannydangling (Autumn Almanac), Thursday, 24 February 2011 20:03 (thirteen years ago) link

if they can make it so that the concept of saving becomes obsolete then that will be a huge and long overdue achievement

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 24 February 2011 20:28 (thirteen years ago) link

I'm happy about that but a little confused. I like how it works when I use google docs, but I never use google docs for important work. With real work, I'm constantly saving out different versions and "revert to saved" is pretty essential. I guess if it's autosaving you just have to look at the clock and "revert to 3:30 version" or something. I also worry about storage. Files that are several hundred megs, several gigs, can we handle multiple versions of everything?

dan selzer, Thursday, 24 February 2011 20:33 (thirteen years ago) link

http://www.apple.com/macosx/lion/

Scroll down to 'Versions'

egregious fannydangling (Autumn Almanac), Thursday, 24 February 2011 20:39 (thirteen years ago) link

hmm, Mail 5 better give me my folders as a sidebar or there's going to be trouble.

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Thursday, 24 February 2011 20:56 (thirteen years ago) link

So Airdrop isn't exactly the Dropbox killer everyone's been waiting for?

Generally, Apple is a pretty smart company. This is just halo-effect smartness...they're even changing the scrolling to match iPhone/iPad. People like my mother and step-father, longtime PC users. Buy an iPad because it's a consumer device. They love it. Then they wonder, are the computers like this? And now they will be.

dan selzer, Thursday, 24 February 2011 20:57 (thirteen years ago) link

Yeah. It's always been pretty clear that Apple would pull its iOS features across to the Macs in some form (be daft not to, frankly). iOS is in no conceivable way perfect but it's very easy to learn and use without manuals etc.

egregious fannydangling (Autumn Almanac), Thursday, 24 February 2011 21:02 (thirteen years ago) link

Oh and the first release of Lion will be hilariously buggy. Can't wait for the fallout.

egregious fannydangling (Autumn Almanac), Thursday, 24 February 2011 21:03 (thirteen years ago) link

We have told you there's an apple hate thread, right?

dan selzer, Thursday, 24 February 2011 21:24 (thirteen years ago) link

ahahahaha. I'm probably not expressing how pleased I am that OS X is adopting some sensible UI conventions and (hopefully) gutting out that god-awful finder.

egregious fannydangling (Autumn Almanac), Thursday, 24 February 2011 21:27 (thirteen years ago) link

dan I'd be way happier with the concept of snapshots. even if it amounts to the same thing as saving. the prospect that you could lose 2hrs of work because you got a power cut or forgot a magic keystroke should just. not. ever. happen. but yeah I want to know more details.

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 24 February 2011 22:24 (thirteen years ago) link

(aa here) yeah I've got to say that after looking into how autosave and versions actually work I'm quite impressed. It makes perfect sense to take the whole time machine design principle and apply it to everything that requires saving.

Head goes goes goes (Schlafsack), Thursday, 24 February 2011 22:27 (thirteen years ago) link

(of course the worst thing about it is that Microsoft won't support it until Office 2017)

Head goes goes goes (Schlafsack), Thursday, 24 February 2011 22:28 (thirteen years ago) link

somehow I think this autosave function is gonna lead to a lot of corrupted files

idk

Neu! romancer (dayo), Thursday, 24 February 2011 23:59 (thirteen years ago) link


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