2008 Primaries Thread 3: The Rejecting and Denouncening

That clip goes all jerkout for me; I have to say am relieved, slightly.

WE HAVE LIFTOFF!

http://media.gallup.com/poll/graphs/042208DailyUpdateGraph1_ysiel5l.gif

Clinton's comments on the day of the South Carolina election (way back in January) stirred up a controversy over whether Hillary Clinton's campaign was deliberately trying to make Obama "the black candidate" in the minds of white voters. This morning, Clinton told Philadelphia public radio station WHYY that Obama had "played the race card on me."

"And we now know, from memos from the campaign and everything, that they planned to do it all along," the former president said. It's not entirely clear what he meant by that; he was probably referring to an internal memo showing that the Obama campaign was collecting examples of racially weighted remarks made by Clinton surrogates. But the memo didn't indicate an advance plan to highlight those remarks -- it was written after they'd already been made (though before the Jesse Jackson dispute).

The WHYY reporter had raised the issue by asking a question about it, but Clinton didn't exactly stay on message in his response. He said the Obama campaign's implication in response that Clinton was trying to marginalize the two black candidates had been disrespectful to Jackson (whom he called a friend, though he endorsed Obama). "You gotta really go something to play the race card on me, my office is in Harlem," he said. "And Harlem voted for Hillary, by the way." Apparently unaware he was still on the phone with the radio station, Clinton muttered about the question afterward to an aide, "I don't think I should take any shit on that from anybody, do you?"

my office is in harlem is the new some of my best friends are black

I like how Bubba really can't deal with the pace of internet news cycles = issue silly/inaccurate/offensive statement, follow with denial, look stupid upon immediate "oh yes you DID say that and here's the verbatim clip/transcript/video" rebuttal

Absolutely. The immediate availability of primary sources (past speeches, new speeches) is so central to this election.

Quite honestly, I don't know if I'm annoyed and disgusted that the President is wasting time on "Deal or No Deal" or if I'm relieved that W. is being contained by inane trivialities and not actually doing anything important or damaging.

the only damage he can do is to the republicans, which is why they have him on deal or no deal

that's on abc, right?

oh maybe not

http://images.huffingtonpost.com/gen/19513/thumbs/s-OBAMAANDBABY-large.jpg

This Bill Clinton thing is getting funny coverage on MSNBC.

Bubba played the race card on Ricky Ray Rector

what the fuck is up with this crap:

Clinton: Iran would pay a 'very high price' for nuclear attack
Posted: 03:08 PM ET
Hillary Clinton sends a warning to Iran Tuesday.

(CNN) – Hillary Clinton said Tuesday that her comments that the United States could “totally obliterate” Iran if it made a nuclear attack on Israel had been an attempt to return the United States to Cold War style deterrence.

Responding to accusations from Barack Obama's campaign that she was engaging in the sort of hypothetical thinking she had criticized him for, Clinton said the situations were not equivalent, since the threat from Iran was all too real. “I think in this particular instance of Iran it's a question not of what might be on or off the table concerning a tactical or strategic decision but an effort on my part to get back to what worked during the Cold War which was deterrence,” she told reporters in Conshohocken, Pennsylvania.

“…Iran is feeling quite powerful. They have been empowered by the actions of the last seven years and they must know there are lines that the world will not let them cross.”

Earlier Tuesday, Clinton told ABC’s Good Morning America that "I want the Iranians to know that if I'm the president, we will attack Iran [if it attacked Israel].”"

nuclear threat from Iran "real" = lolz. uh last time I checked they don't have the bomb.

General Hillary Jack Ripper Clinton

"I wouldn't hypothetically send troops into Pakistan to target wanted terrorists but I would hypothetically obliterate another country with nukes if they hypothetically posed a nuclear threat" what the fuck EVER

Didn't the NIE say that Iran doesn't have a nuke program? Why is everyone acting like they're the Soviet Union or something.

what other countries should we hypothetically obliterate

how about Mexico - that'll learn them pesky illegal immigrants

Let's get rid of Laos. They have too many vowels in a row.

Republican scare tactics, again.

I've kinda dejectedly tried to stop caring/following the news about this, because last time it was too painful to see that the internet != majority of the voters, who are inevitably going to choose the dumbest option they get.

(last time = 2004)

"You gotta really go something to play the race card on me"

"I don't think I should take any shit on that from anybody, do you?"

Not exactly giving me faith in the accuracy of these quotes, unless Bill Clinton has turned into the person who writes all the spam emails I get.

"Shut the fuck out of here with your sizeable pleasure piston!" -- Bill Clinton

Oh never mind I get the second one now.

They're accurate, right down to the poor grammatical choices: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gxsrGUTcEUc

loooooooooooooooooooooooooool

(I see his point, although quite frankly if Obama's "private" words about the characterization of PA voters is fair game, Bill's "private" words about black people always winning SC are fair game. Still, lololol at phone hardman.)

http://thepage.time.com/2008/04/22/what-do-they-know-and-when-will-they-tell-us/

whats this about

Conshohocken, Pennsylvania

Took me a coupla glances before I realized this is a real place, and not some Fletch-created "Cocktozen"-type area.

exit polls, xp

Also, am amused by gallup poll showing such a large shift in just a few days. Push the reset button back to a week ago.

obama fans dont answer the phone on a weekend

too busy feeling embittered over guns and religion.

http://sjimg.ny.publicus.com/apps/pbcsi.dll/bilde?Site=SJ&Date=20080422&Category=NEWS&ArtNo=804220315&Ref=AR&Profile=1051&MaxW=479

http://www.goupstate.com/article/20080422/NEWS/804220315/1051/NEWS01
Byrd said Monday he had no idea that his weekly message on the church billboard would cause such a ruckus.

"It is absolutely not a racist sign or a political sign," Byrd said. "It's only meant to encourage people to think about what they're doing. (Obama) said he's not (a Muslim), but that's why I asked the question. I would put the same sign up if he were a white man.

"God loves us all, but what if we get someone in the White House who happened to be Muslim? I'm just trying to open people's minds. I was never expecting anything like this..."

"I'm not meaning to say that he has the same character as Osama, but it hit my mind that their names are so close. Maybe there's some sort of kinship," he said.

http://thenithitme.net/images/youmethem_poster.jpg

what can you even say to that xposts

That the reverend may have some kind of kinship with Roger Staubach or maybe even Ailes?

Jonesville sure sounds a lot like Jonestown.

Hummmm

Are they brothers?

JONESVILLE CHURCH OF GOD, 623 FOREST ST, (864)-674-0883

HUMM

Story made the front page of drudge, which is how i found it.

http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/page/news/50106-arcade-fire-plan-obama-shows-with-superchunk

That makes me want to not vote for Obama.

obama fans dont answer the phone on a weekend

-- deej, Tuesday, April 22, 2008 4:16 PM (26 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

too busy feeling embittered over guns and religion.

-- Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Tuesday, April 22, 2008 4:18 PM (24 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

TOO BUSY BIG PIMPIN

The interview with Pastor Byrd is highly enlightening (it's obvious someone sent him one of the crap emails that have been going around, because he clearly hasn't done any research of his own).

That makes me want to not vote for Obama.

narcissism-of-small-differences strikes agane oh noes!

Jesus. So where would one get tickets for these NC Obama shows?!??

I'd say start with nc.barackobama.com

EXIT POLL DRAMA 5 PM ET: CLINTON 52, OBAMA 48

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