ok, well what about Portland, Oregon?

xp!

yeah the bars in Portland are awesome! and plentiful

The $3 beer theaters should be a national treasure. That's how we got to see They Live last month.

At least one of them is reportedly haunted.

I HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT PORTLAND, OREGON

MAYBE

HOW ARE THE SPORTS TEAMS

lol

CAN YA GET BRISKET

brisket = yes and many places

sports teams:

blazers = HAHAHAHA
PSU vikings = enh, most folks root for OU/OSU/Seahawks
Winterhawks = chicago farm team, have yet to go a game
Lumberjax = pro lacrosse
Timbers = pro soccer, occasionally plays against english clubs

you forgot the Beavers

(I have t-shirt and went to Dogs in the Park day)

if we move to portland, we'll just start our own sports franchise/brisket shack.

love the location of the baseball stadium but dunno about the inside. it's PCL, right?

yep. It's grungy but acceptable.

I like it and haven't even met any other artists yet/still/really.

does the portland sky feature visible stars at night? cause that would take some getting used to

Yes.

The baseball stadium is affable.

I am hopefully leaving for grad school next year. It is not as awesome here as it used to be, perhaps, but it is still better than many places.

The art museum does indeed suck.

what about the nat hist mus?

is it still the heroin capital of America?

what about this -> http://www.endoftheoregontrail.org/joomlaeotic/?

staying downtown vs staying in nw

why is portland not as nice as it used to be? what happened? global warming? or republicans?

a little more expensive, a little more 'place of the moment'? (i lived there 97-00 and would like to pretend i still know the city well but only get down there 3-4 times a year. maybe kingfish and causistry should tell me to shut up if i'm way off the mark)

staying downtown beats staying in NW. screw both of them, actually, and stay on the eastside.

i've only been here for 3 years, so i'm too recent to notice any change in quality, but Alberta St by where I live is rapidly gentrifying(corrugated tin exteriors EVERYWHERE).

We've been having a nice fall, for the most part. Nice & sunny a lot more than i expected.

Another fun thing about portland, which i probably have mentioned a few times: pinball is still viable here.

corrugated tin exteriors

such a portland affectation. i totally notice it whenever i come down. how the hell are those going to look in 10 years?

(Seattle's is still worse though i think: 2 floors of brick and then cheap wooden slatting. it looks ok at street level but up? yeech)

whoa you guys have like a beer festival every two months. whoa awesome.

I am also moving away from Portland in the next few months. It's kind of a dumb place unless you are like 22 and into your friend's "art" as a way of life, or unless you are 35 and settled and into your dogs as a way of life.

Portland's love of dogs is one of the great things about here.

Yeah, absolutely. But I don't have one.

Neither do I, so I have to enjoy others'.

Both Seattle and Portland have awesome dogs and cats. Portland is more of a DAWG city though, whereas Seattle is more for the nano-dogs on the fluorescent leash.

The streets are lined with cats, at least on the east side.

Lined, not paved.

Jergins correct about decline.

I'm guessing that Portland will be a bigger economy and more expensive city than Seattle by 2010.

which is both good and bad for Portland. Despite the shitty election results here, Seattle has a momentum, but Portland has a warp speed momentum right now.

Well it has catching up to do.

The election results here were terrific, but it was just for measures.

no way rents can rise that fast in 3 years

Enh, I voted for measure 50, just for a way to get funding thanks to our trashed revenue system.

I'm somewhat fine with preventative smoking taxes, but this was not that. This was a regressive tax, with an unfair burden placed on poor people, who are seriously exactly the people who should not be responsible for paying for this.

Nevertheless there is a certain pragmatism behind the measure which I can't entirely reject. It would not have been the end of the world if it had passed, and I was on the fence about it for a while.

Wonder how many legislators really do use the "well, it's not the end of the world..." metric? Seems like a lot.

I am so fucking relieved measure 49 passed, my faith in my state has been renewed. Good job, Portland voting bloc!

Wasn't so much in favor of 50 cause it gave all the goodies to private insurance companies exclusively, according to my nurse friends who were against it. I am all for a smoking tax though.

Also, Dear New York Times: Shut up about us already.

Amen.

ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh i still haven't finished my application for OHSU what the fuck was i thinking

Casuistry OTM.

Also, Dear New York Times: Shut up about us already.

But but but they say all these nice things about your restaurants and how everyone should go there and...oh.

Ned OTM.

People! Arrghhhh! New people everywhere! Arrghhhh! {weeps quietly and rips his remaining hair out in double handfuls}

time to figure out which city will be the New Portland