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Mordy, Tuesday, 12 April 2011 17:25 (thirteen years ago) link

Didn't the Obama admin say they weren't going to be doing this anymore?

RIght after he closes down Gitmo, oh wait!

Stockhausen's Ekranoplan Quartet (Elvis Telecom), Tuesday, 12 April 2011 22:41 (thirteen years ago) link

If you want to be furious about drug laws in this country listen to this episode of This American Life: http://www.thisamericanlife.org/radio-archives/episode/430/very-tough-love

Mordy, Thursday, 14 April 2011 19:33 (thirteen years ago) link

Backwoods (or just simply corrupt) judges basically ignoring the constitution/laws of their state is unfortunately a problem that goes beyond drug laws, but that is the worst thing I've heard all week Mordy!

No pop, no style -- all simply (Viceroy), Friday, 15 April 2011 04:06 (thirteen years ago) link

So infuriating I couldn't actually finish listening to it - I got too angry. I've heard that since it broadcast some ppl have started the impeachment process against judge amanda williams.

Mordy, Friday, 15 April 2011 11:22 (thirteen years ago) link

need rolling cannabis consumption thread

dylannn, Monday, 18 April 2011 08:10 (thirteen years ago) link

lol rolling cannabis

dylannn, Monday, 18 April 2011 08:10 (thirteen years ago) link

need rolling cannabis consumption thread

^^^^

Christine Green Leafy Dragon Indigo, Monday, 18 April 2011 15:21 (thirteen years ago) link

any other ilxors go to dispensaries? i've started going and they are LOL

harlan, Monday, 18 April 2011 17:07 (thirteen years ago) link

I never took advantage when I lived in California. What's funny about them? Apart from everything, of course.

kkvgz, Monday, 18 April 2011 18:42 (thirteen years ago) link

Public Support Rising
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/04/19/marijuana-legalization-public-support-growing_n_851238.html

Mordy, Wednesday, 20 April 2011 15:42 (thirteen years ago) link

good call, judge

http://www.adn.com/2011/04/24/1826162/judge-says-trooper-couldnt-have.html?story_link=email_msg

anyone really that sensitive to marijuana aroma wouldn't be able to resist smoking it

reggie (qualmsley), Monday, 25 April 2011 16:28 (thirteen years ago) link

Watson drew fire in February when he said state lawmakers had their priorities right "if you are a Guatemalan gay man who likes to gamble and smokes marijuana."

http://www.norwichbulletin.com/news/crime/x215603618/Rhode-Island-lawmaker-faces-drug-charges-in-Connecticut#axzz1KYswX2az

Police in East Haven, Conn., say East Greenwich Republican Robert Watson, the House Minority Leader, was stopped at a police checkpoint Friday and charged with possession of marijuana and drug paraphernalia and driving under the influence.

reggie (qualmsley), Monday, 25 April 2011 18:41 (thirteen years ago) link

yoooo

a Guatemalan gay man who likes to gamble and smokes marijuana (The Reverend), Monday, 25 April 2011 19:03 (thirteen years ago) link

i know this is mostly american erb politics, but this Ontario ruling had me smiling:
Ontario court strikes down Canada’s pot laws

got electrolytes (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Monday, 25 April 2011 19:10 (thirteen years ago) link

the original WYNC report about race/marijuana + NYC is here with audio + interactive maps: http://www.wnyc.org/articles/wnyc-news/2011/apr/26/marijuana-arrests/

Mordy, Tuesday, 26 April 2011 19:18 (thirteen years ago) link

Not explicitly about marijuana, but great interview with David Simon that touches on the war on drugs:

David Simon: Oh, I would decriminalize drugs in a heartbeat. I would put all the interdiction money, all the incarceration money, all the enforcement money, all of the pretrial, all the prep, all of that cash, I would hurl it as fast as I could into drug treatment and job training and jobs programs. I would rather turn these neighborhoods inward with jobs programs. Even if it was the urban equivalent of FDR’s CCC—the Civilian Conservation Corps—if it was New Deal–type logic, it would be doing less damage than creating a war syndrome. The drug war is war on the underclass now. That’s all it is. It has no other meaning.

dude is otm. http://www.guernicamag.com/interviews/2530/simon_4_1_11/

Mordy, Thursday, 28 April 2011 23:49 (thirteen years ago) link

more infuriating criminal news:
http://www.tokeofthetown.com/2011/05/fourth_marijuana_conviction_gets_louisiana_man_lif.php

Mordy, Monday, 9 May 2011 17:57 (thirteen years ago) link

http://blogs.villagevoice.com/runninscared/2011/05/pot_smokers_alb.php

Last year, 54,000 people--including 50,000 here in the city--were arrested for possession of small amounts of pot. Marijuana arrests make up 15 percent of all NYPD arrests--making it the number one type of arrest in the city. Critics have called the pot crackdown a waste of $75 million a year in taxpayer money.

Under legislation sponsored by Brooklyn democratic assemblyman Hakeem Jeffries and republican Buffalo senator Mark Grisanti, folks caught smoking a joint or in possession of a small amount of pot in public view would just be given a ticket, rather than arrested.

Police currently are "going against the intent of the law," says Tony Newman, a spokesman for the Drug Policy Alliance. "This bill tries to get back to that intent."

"With New York in serious fiscal crisis, we simply cannot afford to arrest tens of thousands of otherwise law-abiding citizens for possessing small amounts of marijuana - especially when so many of these arrests are the result of illegal searches or mis-charging," Grisanti says. "Furthermore, the unwarranted racial disparities associated with these arrests are unacceptable. This legislation strikes the right balance by discouraging and punishing possession and use of marijuana while promoting smarter, more effective use of our limited fiscal resources."

The police crackdown is interesting in light of Mayor Bloomberg campaign statement that not only did he try marijuana, but he liked it.

About fucking time.

Mordy, Friday, 13 May 2011 16:40 (thirteen years ago) link

Now let's get to work on that legalization bill...

Mordy, Friday, 13 May 2011 16:41 (thirteen years ago) link

Word!!!!

Aerosol, Friday, 13 May 2011 17:30 (thirteen years ago) link

worked my fuckin ass off today and wish there was an MM clinic down the street for stress tbqf

Steven Tyler the Creator (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Friday, 13 May 2011 17:41 (thirteen years ago) link

for sure!
It’s really ridicules the conveniences of the clinics in LA now. I moved away from California right before things really opened up there

Aerosol, Friday, 13 May 2011 17:49 (thirteen years ago) link

err ridiculous

Aerosol, Friday, 13 May 2011 17:52 (thirteen years ago) link

I got pulled over by Oklahoma state troopers about an hour after smoking a joint in my car on Monday.
I didn't freak out because I knew that I'd really done nothing wrong. I told them that I had three roaches and nothing else.
They searched my car and let me go. Oh, I've got MS, so I played the shit out of that card.
Close one.

Trip Maker, Friday, 13 May 2011 17:53 (thirteen years ago) link

can i just...why do people smoke in their car? this is the easiest way to get charged with possession if you want it!

lol, also: today i had the unexpected opportunity to sit in on a state police forensic chemist's talk about how their lab works. at the conclusion of her talk she suggested ways that would help the lab work more efficiently and one was "advocate for making marijuana possession a fine-only offense." it was just me and some prosecutors and one said "boo hiss!" and i said "yay!"

tunnel joe (harbl), Friday, 13 May 2011 22:31 (thirteen years ago) link

harbl ive been told if you have w33d in your car you're best to have it in a bag in the trunk-- y/n?

gr8080, Friday, 13 May 2011 23:38 (thirteen years ago) link

Police currently are "going against the intent of the law,"

Pardon me if I cynically believe that the intent of marijuana prohibition laws have always been to give police a pretext to hassle mostly non-whites, but also non-conforming whites, who are predominately seen as dangerous elements of society who must be subjected to frequent doses of police power to keep them in line.

Aimless, Saturday, 14 May 2011 01:05 (thirteen years ago) link

"intent" idk. It seems to me like sometimes these systems fall into place for variety of reasons and if alcohol prohibition is anything to go by sometimes the shitty broken law is backed by a bunch of well meaning psychotic suffragettes and moms. Still that's def the result even if not necessarily the intent. (did cotton peeps kill hemp??? That might be the true evil intent)

Mordy, Saturday, 14 May 2011 01:14 (thirteen years ago) link

harbl ive been told if you have w33d in your car you're best to have it in a bag in the trunk-- y/n?

I would say that if you are going to, that would be the place to have it. Preferably in an airtight bag, concealed in a container of coffee grounds or some other aromatic which will help shield from the K9 unit.

But that's just what I've heard.

Sauvignon Blanc Mange (B.L.A.M.), Saturday, 14 May 2011 01:28 (thirteen years ago) link

you some type of lawyer or something? someone important or something?

difficult listening hour, Saturday, 14 May 2011 01:36 (thirteen years ago) link

ehhhh i was more talking about the extra levels of sufficient cause that are needed for a cop to justify getting inside a bag inside your trunk.

where even if they went and did it and found it, your lawyer could argue "the officer had cause to search that car, and maybe the trunk, but not the bag inside the trunk"

gr8080, Saturday, 14 May 2011 01:38 (thirteen years ago) link

f. lee bailey iirc xp

Steven Tyler the Creator (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Saturday, 14 May 2011 01:39 (thirteen years ago) link

pretty sure tho that the thing to do if you get busted is smoke out the cop and then listen to some tunes together, this always works in movies

Steven Tyler the Creator (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Saturday, 14 May 2011 01:39 (thirteen years ago) link

got busted smoking on the sidewalk a while back--last november--but case was dismissed for some reason that was made unclear to me. am i cynical for suspecting the evidence could not be produced cuz it had been smoked?

one dis leads to another (ian), Saturday, 14 May 2011 01:46 (thirteen years ago) link

that's from the same movie where you smoke out the cop & listen to Creedence together in his cruiser

Steven Tyler the Creator (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Saturday, 14 May 2011 01:50 (thirteen years ago) link

in real life a cop hassles you just for drinking Reed's Extra Spicy Ginger Brew on the sidewalk, because of the green glass bottle

"Hungry clouds swag on the deep." — William Blake (bernard snowy), Saturday, 14 May 2011 01:53 (thirteen years ago) link

conversely, if you are Devin the Dude, cops pull you over just to smoke weed with you

"Hungry clouds swag on the deep." — William Blake (bernard snowy), Saturday, 14 May 2011 01:56 (thirteen years ago) link

... but the best movie of all is the one where Devin the Dude *is* the cop, and he pulls you over to give you some ginger ale and good advice and a bong that he doesn't need anymore because he's decided to quit his job after this week and go backpacking across the country

"Hungry clouds swag on the deep." — William Blake (bernard snowy), Saturday, 14 May 2011 01:57 (thirteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/05/27/us-dutch-cannabis-idUSTRE74Q64420110527?feedType=RSS&feedName=worldNews&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+reuters%2FworldNews+%28News+%2F+US+%2F+International%29

(Reuters) - The Dutch government on Friday said it would start banning tourists from buying cannabis from "coffee shops" and impose restrictions on Dutch customers by the end of the year.

LL Coolna (absolutely clean glasses), Saturday, 28 May 2011 05:54 (thirteen years ago) link

!

w of in the attic (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Saturday, 28 May 2011 07:10 (thirteen years ago) link

Wow, didn't see that coming. Flies against common wisdom of decriminalization not causing problems in Amsterdam. Looks like it's spurred on by right-wing xenophobia?

What's really weirding me out though, is that I actually think I know the guy in the photo on that story link - timeline fits too!

The dad guitar, or "bass" in muso terms (Whitey on the Moon), Saturday, 28 May 2011 08:44 (thirteen years ago) link

Depressing news.

Mordy, Saturday, 28 May 2011 16:26 (thirteen years ago) link

:'(

got electrolytes (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Saturday, 28 May 2011 16:41 (thirteen years ago) link

they finally got sick of us huh

difficult listening hour, Saturday, 28 May 2011 16:42 (thirteen years ago) link

i dont really blame them tbh, backpackers are horrible people

lol xp

☂ (max), Saturday, 28 May 2011 16:42 (thirteen years ago) link

Last night one of my friends -sort of a local guru - kept telling me that on all Native American reservations it was legal to cheese down.

He also invented a term called "Top Chimp", which means 'someone that is so high they've reverted in evolution to a primordial state'.

Telephoneface (Adam Bruneau), Saturday, 28 May 2011 16:44 (thirteen years ago) link

Top Chimp sounds like basically the opposite of Terrance McKenna's Stoned Chimp theory.

Mordy, Saturday, 28 May 2011 16:45 (thirteen years ago) link


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