Planet Of The Apes movie series - Classic or Dud

Robert Wyatt directed this new Apes? Oh, wait...

Where are the orangutans?

Watching the original again, was struck by how much of a quisling Cornelius is, for a heretic! Nearly shits himself whenever Dr Zaius is around. If they ever closely remake it they'll probably cast Jesse Eisenberg.

also,

orangutans = WASPS (administer the place, sittin pretty)

chimpanzees = Jews (scientists, liberals, just had an employment "quota" abolished)

gorillas = warriors + menials, exploited classes of color

I guess those classses resemble the US demographics and segregation mid-20th-century

I love the original movie series. After the first one, the best is Escape from the Planet of the Apes, followed probably by Conquest, Beneath, then Battle. Battle for the Planet of the Apes is pretty bad but I do love the very ending with the statue.

As a child I loved the tv series too.

The Tim Burton remake was irredeemably terrible.

Anyone seen this?

The title of this film translates to something like “the bumbling ones on the plateau of the apes”; indeed the film is but one of many in the 30+ title O TRAPALHAOES saga, which can be taken to mean “pranks”, “shenanigans” or “pratfalls” – in essence, anything that isn’t helping. Starring legendary Brazilian comedians Dedé Santana, Mussum and Didi Mocó, O TRAPALHAO NO PLANALTO DOS MACACOS’ is a surprisingly earnest (and indefatigably goofy) recreation of the original PLANET, wherein a band of idiot heroes end up “liberating” a simian populace that hates them – save for one comely philosopher-queen chimpanzee...

http://www.spectacletheater.com/missing-links/#otrap

The first film premiered in New York 50 years ago today.

Rod Serling's original draft, which featured the Pierre Boulle book's modern ape civilization (and no doubt even more Cold War liberal speechifying), is being adapted for a graphic novel.

http://www.slashfilm.com/rod-serling-planet-of-the-apes-script-graphic-novel/

the 70s series is a treat.

the newest one is good but taking 300+ years after Caesar's death makes me question the plausibility of a lot of what the humans do.

i keep reading these long articles about how amazing the trilogy is before the new one. and also the new one. who knew? the cgi ape faces just looked so dumb in ads and trailers to me i figured they were like nu-kong or any other new okay-to-bad reboot. now i have to watch them? i was always a fan of those originals. even the really bad last one from 1973 or whenever.
like, they are calling them classic epic sci-fi! i didn't get the memo. they are on disney+ except for the new one. maybe i will try them.

I found them enjoyable but find the 70s ones deserved more love.

watching Conquest of the Planet of the Apes rn. amazing that in 18 short years they've enslaved apes and are still paranoid of one singular talking ape toppling them all. some real John Connor shit here

was quite a bit prescient about how labor would be devalued by capitalism in the 21st century though

Hated all three of the recent movies. The CGI apes looked terrible at all times, and even worse than that, the first one had James Franco in it. I still love the first two and the fourth from the original series, though. The second one, when the mutants peel their faces off, was a primal childhood terror moment for me.

Caesar from 70s movies > Caesar of new trilogy

Nu-Caesar is a watered down revolutionary meant to appease to centrist audiences, 70s Caesar basically a Fred Hampton style revolutionary

why are people stanning so hard in, like, WaPo and NYT for the new ones?? they are think-pieces even! are they in cahoots with big ape?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/entertainment/movies/2024/05/10/kingdom-planet-apes-greatest-franchise/

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/05/15/movies/planet-of-the-apes-appeal.html?searchResultPosition=1

I remember loving the Planet of the Apes TV show marathons that WGN ran over a few evenings when I was a kid. They did some with the old Flash Gordon serials too.

i must have seen those original films dozens of times over the years when i was a kid. they played them a lot. i never got tired of them.

I didn't know this until tonight, because I have an old DVD set of the first five movies from 2006, but in 2008 they put out a Blu-Ray of Conquest of the Planet of the Apes that includes the original ending where Caesar lets the other apes murder the humans. I'm gonna buy one on eBay.

The CGI apes looked terrible at all times

Really? I think this still looks brilliant

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MB4XrhYLQ4A

Somewhat off-topic but the comedian Dana Gould's Hanging With Dr. Z. schtick in which he portrays Dr. Zaius as a gossipy gadfly of Old Hollywood cracks me up.

I really like the new series. as far as ongoing 'franchise' sf films it's probably the best one outside of Dune.

i've now seen all ten ape movies and I enjoy them all...to varying degrees....except for the Burton one, fuck that one.

oh and Battle for the Planet of the Apes really sucks

Kingdom is pretty good but obviously not as good as the 2017 reboot kickoff or Dawn. I think maybe I like it as much as the last one but I'm actually a little fuzzy on that film.

I am a little bleery as to how equipment that has stayed unused and dormant for over 300 years magically still works when booted up, i.e. the satellites at the end

yeah that's the sort of inanity you sometimes just have to go with

one thing that bugged me: given how many fucking guns there are in this country, you'd think they would still be around and plentiful even 300 years in the future.

cyrus and i watched the first two of the new trilogy last night. gonna watch War tonight or tomorrow. we liked them. you get used to the weird look of all the apes. it is its own reality. cool action scenes. i will never get used to that impossibly-fast-movement thing of CGI though. where everyone scrambles up a building in two seconds. i liked that final battle on the building in the second one. all the metal flying everywhere. it looked cool. can imagine it being very cool on a big screen.

War's really good.

what I appreciate the most about the new one is the obvious allegory to early Christianity, where in the mere 300 years after Caesar died, he's been forgotten by some, fondly remembered by a few, wildly misinterpreted by most

i should rewatch War.

there was every reason this one could have really sucked (no Matt Reeves, no Andy Serkis) and I'm glad it didn't, even if some of it seemed like a slight rehash. I don't suppose we'll ever get some weirdo remake of Escape from in this series.

One.can dream

No monkey sex scenes in this one, I know, I’m disappointed too