defend the indefensible: THE IVY LEAGUE

I would like to spawn in bozeman, I think

Livingston is much prettier, and just over the pass.

Bozeman's pop. is like 45k right now and is expected to hit 100k+ in about 15 years. Bozeangels, LOL.

Seriously, it's beautiful here, but the development is atrocious. Mixed what?

Yeah, I should just go found my own town in WY
who wants to move in?

Ooh, actually, just move to Lander, WY!

I'm kind of fascinated by the idea of ILX all picking up and founding a remote western settlement. Probable collapse within in 3 weeks though.

Can we rename Lander to Villa Del Tomboto y/n

move to idaho, start a polygamous commune, spawn hundreds of children and send them all to ivy league schools!

I think you will hacve to take that up with Lander, TOMBOT

Ilx Barre

Etna, Wyo., is a wonderful town of pop. 300 or so. You could work doing cryptology shit for the Freedom Arms Gun Company hq, located in that town. There's also a crazy bison preserve there. It's in a beautiful valley and you can buy "illegal fireworks" such as firecrackers & bottle rockets all year round. Plus cigs (ie Camels) are on avg. $3/pack. GO FOR IT.

a strong temptation

There seem to be a few semi-ghost towns in the west where you could move in your family and a few friends and elect yourself Mayor/Dictator for Life.

There's a polygamous community about a mile from my old house. We could all move in there. My mom still owns the house. We could live in my old house (10 acres, a pond, room for more outbuildings) and commute to the polygamous community down the road. Except I would never want to live there again. But you guys maybe could. Hamilton. It's beeeeyoootifully located in the foothills of the bitterroot mountains. My town has been turned into a big kmart.

Bone, Idaho goes up for sale periodically. Yes, the entire town. Hilariously enough, Southeast Idaho rumors claim Vin Diesel lives there.

Oh wait, sorry, that article is hella stupid and sentimental and barely about Bone at all. Pretty much the only representation of the town I can find is here (big image. That is he bar/general store, the other is an RV someone uses as a house. "BONE - POPULATION 2"

http://www.boneville.com/wp-content/uploads/BONE%20OVE%20Poster.jpg

http://economix.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/07/16/yale-harvard-law-taking-over-supreme-court/

I know this isn't 'news' but this image is o_O

http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2010/07/15/business/economy/economix-15scotusto1950/economix-15scotusto1950-custom2.jpg

one more one more one more one more

meh. even if they stopped giving new SC appointments to Harvard or Yale Law grads, it isn't as if they're going to start appointing, oh i dunno, Rutgers or Brooklyn or Temple Law grads to the Court (even if the nominee was valedictorian). look at the shit that Harriet Myers caught simply because she "only" went to Southern Methodist (well, there were other [more important] reasons why she was unsuitable to be on the Supreme Court -- but the fact that she didn't go to an Ivy law school wasn't one of them in my mind anyway).

i mean, CJ Rehnquist and Justice O'Connor were both Stanford grads -- and Stanford might just as well be Harvard or Yale as far as the über-elitist in the lawyer world care.

but that's the thing - the fact that even the Stanford/Chicago/Columbia/etc. elite aren't represented is why this has become...well, strange? but yeah I think a lot of it has to do with how the nomination process has changed over time.

Harvard/Yale is - maybe more than ever? - the gold standard when it comes to American credentialism. Obama's Harvard degree got more attention than his Columbia one, I think.

college/grad school pedigree not as important for prez candidates generally

hasn't been a non-harvard/yale pres since the 80s or even nominee since...bob dole?

guess we should all be happy that palin is getting the nom then

I'm voting for her just to break the streak

oh wait I forgot about mccain oops

vietnam prison was his harvard

http://rachelmarsden.files.wordpress.com/2008/06/bush_rugby.jpg

http://www.quickanded.com/2010/11/why-not-yale.html

http://www.thecrimson.com/article/2012/8/30/academic-dishonesty-ad-board/

yeah I have been boggling at that on Facebook

the most intersting comment was "was this rampant cheating or a really terrible teacher creating confusion" and the sad thing is that I could easily see either or some combination of both being true

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/03/29/opinion/elite-colleges-are-as-foreign-as-mars.html

Until then, is it any wonder that students in Pahrump and throughout rural America are more likely to end up in Afghanistan than at N.Y.U.?

you are less likely to end up dead at nyu but it's def ruined some lives

For deans of admissions brainstorming what they can do to remedy this, might I suggest: anything.

niiice

Most parents like mine, who had never gone to college, were either intimidated or oblivious (and sometimes outright hostile) to the intricacies of college admissions and financial aid.

I didn't even know how to go about financial aid or where to start - my school expected parents to step in and offer guidance, I suppose.

OTOH, I don't think the problem is "rural kids underserved by Harvard and Stanford," I think the problem is that Directional State U is treated as little more than a waystation for handing out Bachelors of Business Administration by society/the state/etc..

http://gawker.com/this-personal-essay-will-get-you-into-columbia-478217730

Is there anything that I can do, a lot of young people have written to ask me, to avoid becoming an out-of-touch, entitled little shit?

http://www.newrepublic.com/article/118747/ivy-league-schools-are-overrated-send-your-kids-elsewhere

Counterpoint: http://doctorcleveland.blogspot.co.il/2014/07/snobs-vs-ivy-league-or-question-of-bill.html?m=1

That counterpoint seemed a bit wide of the mark to me. I didn't get the impression that the piece was really suggesting that underprivileged youth who are lucky enough to win the lottery and get into an Ivy should turn it down for a state school where they'd have to struggle. That would be crazy. Also, I doubt the author wrote the title himself. Seems like it was cooked up by an editor angling for page-views.

Here's another take:

Mr. Deriesiewicz seems shocked, shocked to discover that 250+-year-old institutions charging rack rates north of $60,000 per year to convey some tangled Latin prose on sheepskin to spotty youngsters at the end of four or more years--institutions for which the combined endowments exceed the gross national products of several small countries--should be complicit in the perpetuation and justification of entrenched socioeconomic power structures. Whence, exactly, did Mr. D think these universities' wealth, status, and prestige come from? Whence the demand for their services? From whom?

http://epicureandealmaker.blogspot.ae/2014/07/improve-yourself.html

https://tvline.com/2019/03/12/felicity-huffman-indicted-lori-loughlin-ivy-league-bribe/

Desperate Housewives vet Felicity Huffman and Fuller House‘s Lori Loughlin have been indicted for allegedly taking part in a large scheme involving parents who paid bribes of up to $6 million to get their kids into elite colleges, including Harvard and Yale, ABC News is reporting.

The indictment was filed by the United States Attorney for the District of Massachusetts; the documents were unsealed early Tuesday.

More: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/feds-uncover-massive-college-entrance-exam-cheating-plot-n982136

US Attorney re the Huffman/Loughlin (among others) college scam: "We're not talking about donating a building...we're talking about fraud."

— Yashar Ali 🐘 (@yashar) March 12, 2019

As Gabriel Malor said in response: "Ew, new money. How gauche."

As someone who grew up near San Diego, this is easily the funniest detail so far:

Feds dunking on USD pic.twitter.com/45RbCKy8sx

— Jon Sarlin (@jonsarlin) March 12, 2019

Hoo boy

Here you can see Lori Laughlin's daughter's "college dorm room tour," in which she says pretty much everything in the room was comped by Amazon (presumably so she'd mention that repeatedly to the 1.1 million people who've watched the video) https://t.co/YlWrIUa0PW

— Joshua Benton (@jbenton) March 12, 2019

The good thing about William H. Macy being involved in a scandal is that his middle initial is readily available for me to express my astonished disappointment in him.

Oh, this is illegal?

Per the indictment, Huffman and husband William H. Macy (who is not referenced by name) paid $15,000 to have someone take the SAT in place of their older daughter, which ultimately resulted in a 1420 SAT score for her. They also allegedly pursued doing the same for their younger daughter, but eventually decided against repeating their involvement in the scheme.

Loughlin and Giannulli allegedly paid a total of $500,000 so that their two daughters would be designated as recruits to the USC crew team. Neither girl participated in the sport. Athletic recruits have a much better chance of admission than students who are not recruited.

damn

i was under the impression that donating was more common than
they're making it sound. i'm assuming what's not common is
having another person take the SAT exam in your place. it seems
like a clumsy way to try to get into a college, though.

also, while ucla has a couple of pretty good programs, for the most
part, the main reason it's "highly selective" is because they have
over 110,000 applicants a year.

there are transfer programs at community colleges that can pretty
much guarantee your admission to ucla and berkeley.

I see that maybe they "donated" the stupid way.

legit shitty parenting