US POLITICS SPRING 2011: Let's just call off this country.

the kinda of lol in which im not lolling tbc

aero c'mon man

http://plixi.com/p/97941808

maintaining an equilibrium is difficult enough without seeking out bullshit

MY COUNTRY TIS OF THEE

today's achievement is a testament to the greatness of our nation. i gotta let that one marinate

go barry

mookie I gotta really focus pretty hard on how bad the opposition like daily is to be able to do my duty when it's time to go to the polls ok

lotta powerful reverse speech stuff goin on in that address just now btw - pretty sure I just got the command to go buy a bunch of vintage horror stuff off Alibris

hey guys hi

fyi

we killed that bin laden motherfucker

fyi

that is, in its way, some shit

deal with it

peace

worst haiku I ever read

Rough justice. Karmic retribution. Pick your label. Live by the sword and die by the sword. I will refrain from unseemly ululations, but I am glad he is dead.

i mean its like i said i could write a paper no one would read abt how ''we'' killed ''bin laden'' today and how ''positive '' that it is and whatever but fuck all that shit like yo

this is a dude

that killed a fuckin bunch of people because they weren't religious enough for him

fuck that

i'm pleased he's up out

and imo you should be too

and the fact that it happened under an obama admin is a nice bonus

gotta say that is a weird take comin from u hoos

I take it hoos' Facebook post posted automatically.

like I too am stoked if there is less death in the world now but still --

He should not kill a living being, nor cause it to be killed, nor should he incite another to kill.
Do not injure any being, either strong or weak in the world.
--Sutta Nipata II,14

lol

this is many posts up bcuz some major news event occurred in the interim but

and re that Nate Silver thing placing O on the 'liberal' scale, how did he account for a generic mainstream liberal in 1975 being a Trotskyite loon in 2011? (Answer not necessary. I rue the day Silver left Baseball Prospectus for this trivia.)

― your generation appalls me (Dr Morbius), Monday, May 2, 2011 1:24 AM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

because the context shifted to the right, which was the entire point of his post, fyi

naw man I'm just talkin about Hoos I look to that dude for the Buddha consciousness

this is what greenwald means when he talks about being poisoned by the beltway

Yeah its great that a bad man is gone from the world but there's something unnerving about the thought of millions of people going to sleep happier tonight because they read that someone was killed.

Can't wait for the HRO post, tbh

and the fact that it happened under an obama admin is a nice bonus

cuz Bam is now Terrorist #1, amirite

linked it on the other thread but he posted this on twitter:

http://desmond.yfrog.com/Himg610/scaled.php?tn=0&server=610&filename=x92ua.jpg&xsize=640&ysize=640

xpost

Read those Corner commenters for real fun.

i will do no such thing

yes u will cause some of us are gonna copy and paste that shit for weeks lol

lol ^___^

when i heard, i was drinking a beer and reading an ILX thread. i guess i will always remember this as the day BIG HOOS broke the news.

it's weird. i'm not happy he's dead. i'm not bummed. the fact that lots of people are celebrating neither cheers nor repulses me. i guess i feel a sort of "closure," as they say, and the response of my countrymen pretty much squares with my expectations.

i figure bin laden got no less than what was coming to him, but only in a value-neutral, basically mechanical sense. tbh, i'm more concerned about immediates like rent money and why my cat always wants to be under the couch during daylight hours.

^This is pretty much how I feel. I mulled it over in my head, and for a moment decided I would have rather seen him captured alive and brought to trial and have every book in the book thrown at him. Then I realized that a capture would have likely been impossible without putting our forces in further danger and faced with a choice of deaths between OBL and US soldiers, I sure as hell know which I prefer.

there's no way that he was ever going to let himself get captured

alive, obv

Who knows, but either way, it wasn't worth the risk of trying.

tbh, i'm more concerned about immediates like rent money and why my cat always wants to be under the couch during daylight hours.

maybe this will change once you tell your cat the news about osama

I wouldn't go so far as "I don't care" but finding catharsis in his death is a bit hard. It's not going to bring anyone back nor is it going to help in Afghanistan, Pakistan or anywhere else the Al Quaeda Franchise operates. Genuine justice in the form of a trial would have been truly cathartic.

^^^^^^^

Also Morbius OTM ITT.

a trial would have been more cathartic but come on, this was the bogey man the bush administration divided the country over. "why are we invading iraq when bin laden's the one who bombed us?" not finding this a big deal is really . . . huh?

Has there been a President who achieved some nationally-desired military objective who didn't get re-elected?

Bush I...

well, but the "objective" in the mind of the public was "kill the evil villain hussein," not restore kuwait to sovereignty iirc. hussein remained in power = we didn't "get our man."

Yeah, I was thinking Bush I but I feel like the public never actually accepted the rationale for getting involved, so while it was successful I don't know if it was nationally desired.

(obv facts > feelings, unless of course I feel really really strongly about it)

Right at the conclusion of the Gulf War it was deemed a success, though; if I'm remembering correctly, Bush was about 90% public approval. And, as I said last night, just like Bush I don't think this will help Obama much at all come November.

By the way: I re-read your long post from last night about the fundamental difference in how people view Obama, aerosmith. Thanks--I think you sum up the two sides well.

Something this undeniably definitive will certainly help Obama. Whether he has the hubris to use it to his full advantage is another matter.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Gallup_Poll-Approval_Rating-George_H_W_Bush.png

lol the economy tanked him

"Settle down, Beavis. The guy got some good yuks at easy targets."

while he was taking out the biggest target. masterful. what he does now with gitmo is gonna be interesting. also, patriot act repeal? if those go down then a lot of the naysaying will seem _____ in retrospect

Absolutely the economy did in Bush; that's the parallel. "Gas is at $6 a gallon and unemployment's at 9%, but Bin Laden's dead" will be an impossible sell if the alternative is at all sane.

http://www.tradingeconomics.com/united-states/unemployment-rate

It's been trending down for the past 5 months. The big difference during Bush I's tenure is that unemployment was trending up immediately after the Gulf War; Obama doesn't need to be terrified unless things start bouncing worse.

okay obv this is euphoria driven and all but:

http://money.cnn.com/2011/05/02/markets/premarkets/index.htm?hpt=T2
http://money.cnn.com/2011/05/02/markets/oil_prices/index.htm?hpt=T2

euphoria indeed. love that he got taken on the eighth anniversary of "mission accomplished" and after the repeal of 'don't ask don't tell.' looking forward to the medal ceremony for these seals

Feel a little bad for the "Another Side of Tilapia, the Perfect Factory Fish" story on the Times right now.