US POLITICS SPRING 2011: Let's just call off this country.

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yeah i'd hazard a guess that most docs don't have any formal certification in U/S

cop a cute abdomen (gbx), Monday, 2 May 2011 19:24 (thirteen years ago) link

ok sorry for the confusion, and thanx for the encouragement aero!

if hongroes could fly this place would be a geirport (Drugs A. Money), Monday, 2 May 2011 19:24 (thirteen years ago) link

if a care provider/institution is comfortable using un-registered u/s techs to do all the OTHER things that u/s is used for, then requiring a registered tech for abortions is some bizarro special treatment. which is entirely the point, i imagine.

cop a cute abdomen (gbx), Monday, 2 May 2011 19:26 (thirteen years ago) link

I guess there is a 3rd reading of the bill tomorrow. Not sure what weird thing reading & voting on a bill multiple times is about but if you are in TX contact your Senator no matter which way they voted and make your desires as a constituent clear, if you have a minute to do so. Even people who oppose abortion passionately should not sink so low as to be passing these bills that masquerade as concern for women's health when they allow their CPCs to basically play doctor for the furthering of their Xian Dominion agenda.

five gone cats from Boston (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Monday, 2 May 2011 19:27 (thirteen years ago) link

if a care provider/institution is comfortable using un-registered u/s techs to do all the OTHER things that u/s is used for, then requiring a registered tech for abortions is some bizarro special treatment. which is entirely the point, i imagine.

this is the thing - one of the objecting Democrats during the hearing pointed out that it's profoundly un-conservative to be telling private practices how to conduct their business, having bodies of people who aren't medical professionals actually writing the standards and determining which clinics have to belong to this nat'l registry and which don't (get this: CPC U/S techs need not belong to the registry...because they're volunteers! that is actually something they said.) - that this is big government for sure, isn't it? conservative response: no no, it's not, it's conservative. again this was basically their whole argument: "to the contrary, I see this bill as conservative."

how did I watch this hearing btw? using RealPlayer. I felt it worth noting, I fired up RealPlayer for this shit

five gone cats from Boston (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Monday, 2 May 2011 19:32 (thirteen years ago) link

ugh

cop a cute abdomen (gbx), Monday, 2 May 2011 19:36 (thirteen years ago) link

@ realplayer, i mean

cop a cute abdomen (gbx), Monday, 2 May 2011 19:36 (thirteen years ago) link

it's only for real playaz

That Dunkster! (absolutely clean glasses), Monday, 2 May 2011 19:38 (thirteen years ago) link

that's why I use it man - QuickTime? what kind of RealPlayer would be caught calling himself QuickTime, c'mon

five gone cats from Boston (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Monday, 2 May 2011 19:41 (thirteen years ago) link

Having dealt forcefully with a Muslim terrorist and a blowhard Trump, Obama might hopefully be emboldened to deal forcefully without negotiation with Republican economic terrorists on debt limits and regressive/recession-extending budgets commenter on Washington Monthly

I would not count on this

curmudgeon, Monday, 2 May 2011 20:55 (thirteen years ago) link

I was going to make the same suggestion. I'll let him know when I call him tonight.

ginny thomas and tonic (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 2 May 2011 21:06 (thirteen years ago) link

time to spend that political capital that Dubya held so dear

your generation appalls me (Dr Morbius), Monday, 2 May 2011 21:14 (thirteen years ago) link

But the capture and killing of bin Laden ... does two things instantly: it tells us that an American named Barack Hussein Obama ordered the operation that killed Osama bin Laden. A man who symbolizes an integrative, tolerant, multicultural future defeated the symbol of a twisted, dark, fundamentalist past. A man who represents the human continuum of the developing and developed worlds defeated a man who seeks only one world and Shariah rule over all of it. And it also tells those who have been bombarded with lies and rumors and disgusting smears that this president, whatever they have been told, is no weakling, no terror-lover, no alien. He is as American as every new passport holder and every ancient Southern or Yankee family.

ugh jesus when somethin gets the shine back for sully he really gets purple

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 3 May 2011 16:36 (thirteen years ago) link

killing just gets him hard, pretty commonplace

your generation appalls me (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 3 May 2011 16:47 (thirteen years ago) link

He is as American as every new passport holder

having a passport isn't very American!

Gukbe, Tuesday, 3 May 2011 16:49 (thirteen years ago) link

i have a passport holder manufactured from chinese pleather, not very american. fwiw

40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 3 May 2011 16:52 (thirteen years ago) link

Juan Cole apparently will no longer read him.

http://www.balloon-juice.com/2011/05/03/hitting-unsubscribe/

ginny thomas and tonic (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 3 May 2011 16:56 (thirteen years ago) link

i think you mean john cole; but thats not john cole, thats one of the other bloggers

ban drake (the rapper) (max), Tuesday, 3 May 2011 16:59 (thirteen years ago) link

I can stomach wrongheaded analysis, different political views, bad musical taste and a whole host of other annoyances if the blog I’m reading at least gets the facts right.

what the fuck!! pet shop boys >>>> whatever sub-merge youtubes the klein/yglesias crew are always throwing up

the guy is ridiculous tho, i quit reading him a while ago myself *crosses arms*

goole, Tuesday, 3 May 2011 17:00 (thirteen years ago) link

hey it's just a little counting crows between friends. let's be cool.

40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 3 May 2011 17:01 (thirteen years ago) link

You only tell me you love me when you're drunk.

ginny thomas and tonic (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 3 May 2011 17:02 (thirteen years ago) link

i think you mean john cole; but thats not john cole, thats one of the other bloggers

― ban drake (the rapper) (max), Tuesday, May 3, 2011 4:59 PM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

where is Alfred's speedy correction

geeks, dweebs, nerds & lames (D-40), Tuesday, 3 May 2011 17:04 (thirteen years ago) link

*unfollows*

geeks, dweebs, nerds & lames (D-40), Tuesday, 3 May 2011 17:04 (thirteen years ago) link

with no regrets, and a palpable sense of relie

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 3 May 2011 17:40 (thirteen years ago) link

f

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 3 May 2011 17:40 (thirteen years ago) link

max speedily corrected me, lambchop.

ginny thomas and tonic (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 3 May 2011 17:42 (thirteen years ago) link

where is your speedy apology

geeks, dweebs, nerds & lames (D-40), Tuesday, 3 May 2011 17:58 (thirteen years ago) link

I apologize, Speedy.

Aimless, Tuesday, 3 May 2011 18:03 (thirteen years ago) link

lol

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 3 May 2011 18:05 (thirteen years ago) link

has everybody called his or her representative and expressed your feelings in re: HR3? Please do. If hunting down your rep's name and number is a hassle just tell me where you are and I will get the number for you, but please give them a call. Here is what HR3 is about, per Planned Parenthood, who oppose it, but this is an accurate description of the bill.

The Smith bill, or H.R. 3, was introduced in Congress by U.S. Representative Chris Smith (R-NJ), and represents an unprecedented attempt to take away comprehensive private health insurance coverage from American women by imposing new taxes on small businesses and individuals.

The bill makes excessive restrictions on individuals who pay for their own health insurance coverage by drastically altering the tax code. It states that individuals who purchase insurance in the new health exchanges cannot receive federal tax credits if they choose a plan that provides coverage for abortion (except in the limited cases of incest, rape, and when the pregnant woman’s life is in danger) — even though they are also using their own private dollars in part to buy insurance coverage.

As a result, a woman who has to terminate a pregnancy because of serious medical complications could face bankruptcy, as the costs for an abortion in complicated cases can cost more than $10,000.

five gone cats from Boston (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Tuesday, 3 May 2011 18:34 (thirteen years ago) link

Man, it's not funny, but it does remind me about this hilarious bit:

http://www.theonion.com/video/new-law-requires-women-to-name-baby-paint-nursery,14393/

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 3 May 2011 18:58 (thirteen years ago) link

it's kind of the inverse of the 'actual headlines you can't believe aren't onion articles" thing

tInA-yOtHeRs (donna rouge), Tuesday, 3 May 2011 19:12 (thirteen years ago) link

Man, it's not funny, but it does remind me about this hilarious bit:

http://www.theonion.com/video/new-law-requires-women-to-name-baby-paint-nursery,14393/

the Texas bill that passed its second hearing yesterday requires that the ultrasound tech describe the fetus to the woman if she closes her eyes to the u/s

please, please, please do everything you can to stop these nightmare bills from passing.

five gone cats from Boston (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Tuesday, 3 May 2011 19:24 (thirteen years ago) link

That. is. amazing. This IS Clockwork Orange.

Back up the lesbian canoe (Laurel), Tuesday, 3 May 2011 19:26 (thirteen years ago) link

I should be clear. The bill had language that required the patient to actually look at the ultrasound. They knew that wasn't workable, so they wrote in a part about how the u/s tech is required to describe the fetus. The patient has to listen to this whether they choose to look at the ultrasound or not. These are some of the most shameful laws being passed and everyone who cherishes their right to privacy, their right to determine the course of their own medical care, and general human decency should be opposing these bills loudly and visibly.

five gone cats from Boston (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Tuesday, 3 May 2011 19:30 (thirteen years ago) link

aero, I'm looking at www.house.gov/ directory business but there are like 20 reps for NY state. How do I know which one(s) to write to?

Back up the lesbian canoe (Laurel), Tuesday, 3 May 2011 19:33 (thirteen years ago) link

you have to figure out which district you live in and write the one that represents it

then write all the other ones

Dreaded Burrito Gang (DJP), Tuesday, 3 May 2011 19:36 (thirteen years ago) link

Looking up congressional districts now....

Back up the lesbian canoe (Laurel), Tuesday, 3 May 2011 19:36 (thirteen years ago) link

enter your zip code here and they will get to you to a page with a pre-written letter to your rep which you can amend as you see fit, then click through for electronic signature on the next page. I am told that phone calls remain the most effective. I do both.

http://org2.democracyinaction.org/o/6713/p/dia/action/public/?action_KEY=6678

five gone cats from Boston (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Tuesday, 3 May 2011 19:38 (thirteen years ago) link

Found it! Dist 11. Yvette Clarke, yay.

Back up the lesbian canoe (Laurel), Tuesday, 3 May 2011 19:38 (thirteen years ago) link

aero - do you have a link re: the ultrasound technician thing?

'what are you, the Hymen Protection League of America?' (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 3 May 2011 19:41 (thirteen years ago) link

Thanks! I'm trying to convey this info to my wife and some others, helps to have links to go along with my angry ramblings.

'what are you, the Hymen Protection League of America?' (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 3 May 2011 19:45 (thirteen years ago) link

I send the form letter and added: "This bill was abhorrent when it was proposed in January as a vehicle to introduce the term "forcible rape," a contemptible effort to take from women even the *right* to consider themselves sexually assaulted, and even with that language withdrawn it is wholly abhorrent now.

Please bring your influence to bear on this issue out of the many you consider -- women are losing ground nearly every day, losing critical rights of agency and self-determination in matters of our own human development and physical and mental health."

Back up the lesbian canoe (Laurel), Tuesday, 3 May 2011 19:46 (thirteen years ago) link

Hmm. My street's not showing up.

ginny thomas and tonic (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 3 May 2011 19:47 (thirteen years ago) link

I get a little over-blown when I'm upset.

Back up the lesbian canoe (Laurel), Tuesday, 3 May 2011 19:47 (thirteen years ago) link

i've never called my rep before - do you usually speak to them directly? or to an aide?

tInA-yOtHeRs (donna rouge), Tuesday, 3 May 2011 19:56 (thirteen years ago) link

It depends on who you call - when you call a state rep you will sometimes be sent straight through, but usually it's an aide. but you should consider the aide your best shot at conveying your message - it's what they do. you can also request a response sometimes.

five gone cats from Boston (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Tuesday, 3 May 2011 19:57 (thirteen years ago) link

btw Laurel that is great work!!

five gone cats from Boston (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Tuesday, 3 May 2011 19:57 (thirteen years ago) link

for those feeling particularly worried obama has indicated that he will veto HR3 if it managed to pass the senate (which it wouldnt): http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/05/as-abortion-bill-nears-house-vote-white-house-threatens-veto.php

ban drake (the rapper) (max), Tuesday, 3 May 2011 19:59 (thirteen years ago) link


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