i thought it was amazing when it came out
saw it a few years later and...no
― latebloomer, Thursday, 7 February 2008 18:55 (sixteen years ago) link
i don't think it's badly made though--it's got some funny and well-acted moments. it's just really vapid and smug.
― latebloomer, Thursday, 7 February 2008 19:00 (sixteen years ago) link
"How ya like gettin' it from tha king...?"
― C. Grisso/McCain, Thursday, 7 February 2008 19:01 (sixteen years ago) link
or Storytelling for Solondz' American Beauty zing
-- Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, February 7, 2008 12:51 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Link
american beauty is one of the worst movies ive ever seen but id still rather watch it again than fucking storytelling
― and what, Thursday, 7 February 2008 19:05 (sixteen years ago) link
^^otm
― Nicole, Thursday, 7 February 2008 19:06 (sixteen years ago) link
Not the worst thing around. Not the best. Probably about average as far as Best Picuture Oscar winners (since 1976) goes.
― Gukbe, Thursday, 7 February 2008 19:07 (sixteen years ago) link
"your story was a piece of shit"
^^ only worthwhile thing in storytelling.
― gff, Thursday, 7 February 2008 19:08 (sixteen years ago) link
not to be cap'n save-a-mo but the american beauty trashing in storytelling was pretty funny
― latebloomer, Thursday, 7 February 2008 19:08 (sixteen years ago) link
has calling out the vapidity & hypocrisy of upper-middle class american life ever been original?
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 7 February 2008 19:15 (sixteen years ago) link
i mean like henry james was doing the shit 150 years ago
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 7 February 2008 19:16 (sixteen years ago) link
no titty there BIG HOOS
― gff, Thursday, 7 February 2008 19:16 (sixteen years ago) link
fwiw I agree that Storytelling is not that good but it has a couple of really funny moments (the "censored" sex scene, the American Beauty parody)
― Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 7 February 2008 19:17 (sixteen years ago) link
i don't remember the american beauty parody at all.
― gff, Thursday, 7 February 2008 19:19 (sixteen years ago) link
i just threw an upper-middle class american out of my hotel for being vapid & hypocritical
― and what, Thursday, 7 February 2008 19:20 (sixteen years ago) link
its very brief - basically one of the characters in the second story arc shoots a film about the beauty of a plastic bag in the wind etc
― Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 7 February 2008 19:21 (sixteen years ago) link
clever
― gff, Thursday, 7 February 2008 19:23 (sixteen years ago) link
the plastic bag scene
big boobs in the window
that's about it
todd soldonz is a piece of shit
― M@tt He1ges0n, Thursday, 7 February 2008 19:24 (sixteen years ago) link
it made chris cooper a star, that's cool
― gff, Thursday, 7 February 2008 19:25 (sixteen years ago) link
^^ tru i guess maybe in that way it contributed to making the bourne movies cool, so props for that
― M@tt He1ges0n, Thursday, 7 February 2008 19:26 (sixteen years ago) link
oh man i totally forgot dude was in this... <3 <3 <3 chris cooper
― and what, Thursday, 7 February 2008 19:27 (sixteen years ago) link
never understood why people are so eager to hate on solondz
― Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 7 February 2008 19:29 (sixteen years ago) link
remember when wesley whats his face was supposed to be the next joaquin phoenix?
― omar little, Thursday, 7 February 2008 19:39 (sixteen years ago) link
because he made movies after happiness
xpost
― Gukbe, Thursday, 7 February 2008 19:39 (sixteen years ago) link
hhahaha yeah he was in ghost rider
― latebloomer, Thursday, 7 February 2008 19:40 (sixteen years ago) link
and... P2!
― gff, Thursday, 7 February 2008 19:41 (sixteen years ago) link
and some western about a mining town that nobody saw
and a costume drama with kate hudson and heath ledger (rip) that i did see. it sucked.
― gff, Thursday, 7 February 2008 19:42 (sixteen years ago) link
oh man he sucked in P2
― Alex in Baltimore, Thursday, 7 February 2008 19:50 (sixteen years ago) link
Lone Star! You should definitely see it, it's one of the best American films of the 90's.
― Tuomas, Thursday, 7 February 2008 19:54 (sixteen years ago) link
lone star is a movie with chris cooper, about a border town. not a mining town, with wes bentley
― gff, Thursday, 7 February 2008 20:24 (sixteen years ago) link
the claim, which is dope
― max, Thursday, 7 February 2008 20:26 (sixteen years ago) link
u all should see it
the claim, dir. michael winterbottom
xp
― gff, Thursday, 7 February 2008 20:26 (sixteen years ago) link
Lone Star is terrible!
― Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 7 February 2008 20:34 (sixteen years ago) link
i assume you mean the film and not the beer or There Will Be Blows
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 7 February 2008 20:35 (sixteen years ago) link
shakey what in fuck is wrong with you
― gff, Thursday, 7 February 2008 20:36 (sixteen years ago) link
wes bentley is a big junkie.
― s1ocki, Thursday, 7 February 2008 21:05 (sixteen years ago) link
the claim was good
― max, Thursday, 7 February 2008 21:59 (sixteen years ago) link
lets talk about it instead of this dumb movie
sad!
― gff, Thursday, 7 February 2008 21:59 (sixteen years ago) link
Maybe someone mentioned this above, but the scene with the wife smashing her fists against her temple or the wall (or something like that, can't recall for sure), after she wasn't able to sell the house she was showing -- while repeating "STUPID, STUPID, STUPID" -- was chilling cinema. The rest, meh.
― Daniel, Esq., Thursday, 7 February 2008 22:02 (sixteen years ago) link
The Claim looks good.
― milo z, Thursday, 7 February 2008 22:05 (sixteen years ago) link
I almost threw up during the scene in which Annette Bening collapses atop her pile of beautiful clothes upon learning of Kevin Spacey's death.
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 7 February 2008 22:34 (sixteen years ago) link
you have to watch the claim on a nice big screen, too. it helps to be stoned. just really beautiful and glacially paced. reminds me a little bit of mccabe and ms miller? and actually, deadwood too come to think of it.
― max, Thursday, 7 February 2008 22:35 (sixteen years ago) link
I don't really know why people hate this film, but then I haven't seen it in over 5 or 6 years so I might not like it now. I don't understand why people don't like Amelie though - what's not to like? It's good fun. Romanticised, yes, but that's sort of the point isn't it?
― the next grozart, Friday, 8 February 2008 00:39 (sixteen years ago) link
Actually yeh, that plastic bag scene was very dumb in retrospect. I must have watched AB when I was a naiive 18yo and didn't really find it so yucky.
― the next grozart, Friday, 8 February 2008 00:42 (sixteen years ago) link
max i'm sold
― Tracer Hand, Friday, 8 February 2008 00:43 (sixteen years ago) link
the plastic bag scene in american beauty isn't dumb, it's the only scene that ISN'T dumb, you're watching a plastic bag perform at a high level like an athlete, it's like watching ski jumping in the olympics is dumb...i never saw a bag do that before and i'm glad i did.
― M@tt He1ges0n, Friday, 8 February 2008 00:46 (sixteen years ago) link
yeah tracer--when i say deadwood and mccabe and ms. miller i mean more in terms of the grit and grime and the fucking magnificent setting than in the sensibilities of either more. its probably not as well-written as either of those two, but its the kind of movie that wins or loses on its cinematography (and it wins, i think).
― max, Friday, 8 February 2008 01:05 (sixteen years ago) link
The only good thing that ever happened in Family Guy is a scene of God yelling at that kid, "I created everything in nature and in outer space, and that PLASTIC BAG is the most beautiful thing in the world? What is your PROBLEM?"
― Abbott, Friday, 8 February 2008 01:36 (sixteen years ago) link
rong. blue harvest is pretty awesome.
― chaki, Friday, 8 February 2008 01:45 (sixteen years ago) link