US POLITICS SPRING 2011: Let's just call off this country.

You can snigger all you want but it's from "Train up a child in the way he should go, and when he is old he will not depart from it" or whatever. BIBLE BIBLE BIBLE LET ME JUST HIT YOU WIHT THIS BIBLE DID YOU MAYBE NOTICE THAT I HAVE A BIBLE ALSO YOU WILL HAVE TO READ THIS EVERY DAY IN THE NEW WORLD ORDER SO BUY ONE FROM ME NOW BUY TWO BUY SIX SOME DAY THE WHOLE WORLD WILL BE FORCED TO BUY BIBLES FROM ME MWAHAHAHAHHHAHAHAHAAAAA

the paul ryan budget plan fail/donald trump birth certificate joke candidacy/white house correspondents dinner routine/bin laden assassination sequence was pretty heartening

inevitable/trivia/worse trivia ie showbiz/making OBL bigger than Nuremberg Nazis

unwell. xp

http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/political-animal/2011_05/targeting_the_very_existence_o029452.php

In March, Republican presidential hopeful Rick Santorum expressed his disdain for public education. “Just call them what they are,” Santorum said. “Public schools? That’s a nice way of putting it. These are government-run schools.”

Campaigning in South Carolina over the weekend, Santorum went even further. (via Steve M.)

Rick Santorum, a possible candidate for the Republican presidential nomination, even raised the specter of Benito Mussolini’s Fascist Italy in a speech here Friday night while explaining why his grandfather emigrated to the U.S. His uncle, he said, “used to get up in a brown shirt and march and be told how to be a good little fascist.”

“I don’t know, maybe they called it early pre-K or something like that, that the government sponsored to get your children in there so they can indoctrinate them,” Santorum said.

There is a fair amount of this talk going around. At a home-schooling rally in Iowa in March, Ron Paul, Michele Bachmann, and Herman Cain — all Republicans who’ve expressed an interest in the presidential race — raised the specter of ending public education in the United States altogether.

This also includes far-right media. CNSNews’ Terry Jeffrey argued a few weeks ago, “It is time to drive public schools out of business.” Townhall columnist Chuck Norris has begun calling public schools “indoctrination camps.”

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GOP debate last night was non-stop lolz btw

I was raised in the homeland of all these religious crazies, this shit about getting rid of secular education is the kind of stuff they force-fed us in Sunday School from jr high on up. Beware of the hidden secular agendas of academics when you go off to college, keep your guard up in all science classes, always be on the lookout for secular authorities to put obstacles in your way and for the world out there to test your faith.

At age 25 or 30 or w/e maybe you find kinda fringe conspiracy theories intriguing from a distanced intellectual POV, but can you imagine spoon-feeding them to precocious jr high students who are trained to look for symbolism in everything? This is what the church I went to did to us, ALL THE TIME. And they didn't mean to, as such, it's just that, you know, the paranoia behind all their ideas is overwhelming even when people appear to be calm in presenting it.

man i can't even

lol'ing at Tea Party calling Boehner "surrenderist"

But now Boehner is bending over backwards to make them happy--his speech to Wall Street yesterday demanding trillions in cuts with no tax increases if they want the debt limit raised. He was on the Today show this morning repeating his usual nonsense about the need to act like an "adult"(that means cutting aid for the middle class and poor and handing tax cuts to the rich and corporations ). Obama and the Dems in an ideal world would show courage and propose a plan that gets rid of the Bush tax cuts or even settle for and stick with the Obama plan (70 % of Americans in polls are in favor of the Dems tax plan for the rich). They'll probably blink again though.

guys there's a thread for this shit

Ringwing crazy thread and US Politics thread covering the same topics is not a surprise though.

is it not politics anymore or

IT'S GENOCIDE

* A new survey from Public Policy Polling shows Donald Trump’s support among Republican voters collapsing quickly. After quickly rising to the top of the GOP presidential field, Trump’s standing has fallen from 26% to 8% in just four weeks.

Tracer, you want to talk about this or Boehner, or is it not political...

Toddlers lose interest quickly.

^rabid primary GOP voters move on from one substance-free demagogue to the next like hyper-active pubescents. Herman Cain, you’re up

my dad, once the paragon of sobriety and prudence, has hitched his wagon to every dipshit show pony the "grassroots" right has rallied around since entering his 60s.

huh, there's a boardgame

http://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/6472/a-game-of-thrones

oops worng thread

my dad, once the paragon of sobriety and prudence, has hitched his wagon to every dipshit show pony the "grassroots" right has rallied around since entering his 60s.

sadly, so has my own once-sober and prudent father.

My Dad still supports Obama and plays down any liberal to left criticisms of him

this is pretty good!

http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/1969/12/the-tragedy-of-sarah-palin/8492/

apparently she wasn't such a bad governor, for a while, and the 'reformer' thing was pretty otm

might prankvote for Herman Cain if he incorporates Godfather Pizza logo into campaign emblem

Thanks for the article, goole.

Yeah that was good. Had no idea that she stood up to Big Oil in AK.

haha

wait really? you see that all the time from her fans, i just figured it was crap

Ive never really investigated palin too thoroughly tbh

so, she might actually be a better prez than Bam huh?

did you read it?

hell no, that's what you guys are here for.

wait really? you see that all the time from her fans, i just figured it was crap

― goole, Tuesday, May 10, 2011 7:29 PM (23 minutes ago) Bookmark

did you? xp

lol

I still remember an article about her hiring an unqualified high school friend of hers to run her Department of Agriculture. This should have gotten alot more media attention.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/14/us/politics/14palin.html

So when there was a vacancy at the top of the State Division of Agriculture, she appointed a high school classmate, Franci Havemeister, to the $95,000-a-year directorship. A former real estate agent, Ms. Havemeister cited her childhood love of cows as a qualification for running the roughly $2 million agency.

"Childhood love of cows"....an awesome qualification for a job

"Childhood love of cows"....an awesome qualification for a job

you're being sarcastic but I would straight up vote for any candidate whose position was "vote for me, I had a childhood love of cows"

Ha. I can kind of see Palin defending her selection and citing that as a legit reason

can't find a jpeg of the photo of Gore Vidal running for a House seat in 1960 talking to a cow.

RE: The anti-public schools thing. Do Republicans just want to cut the shit and run on a literal "We Hate The Poor" platform?

I mean I grew up in suburban Georgia going to public schools and rather than being surrounded by secular communist heathens, for the most part the place was in the hands of the local megachurches. It wasn't just that all the popular (read: wealthier) kids were bringing Bibles to class and always talking breathlessly about Youth Group; the adjacent megachurch regularly held functions on school grounds. The church nowadays is bigger than the high school was when i went, and has obviously taken in much more money.

Yeah, I grew up in a region that didn't have any private schools, and iirc everyone loved Reagan and Bush. Are they suggesting that they close the public schools in rural Missouri and build new private schools where they've never existed? To fight socialism? What?

It's so stupid I shit my pants, can't believe these guys get on the news somehow

Just guessing but they'd probably like to close the public schools and then re-open them under new management and re-hire only staff who promise to teach according to so-called Christian values which basically means no science afaict.

And only the parts of history God would approve of.

Laurel, is it that 'seven mountains' thing that the hardcore Christians are into, and other Republicans are kind of useful idiots for? Which is to say, sl-o-o-o-wly gaining control of things like school boards in order to impose a disbelief system in things like evolution?

You know if they ever succeeded in abolishing the secular curriculum and teaching only from the Bible we'd then have to contend with new radicals who only want to teach the parts of the Bible that fit their preconceived notions of religion + god. It's not like they'd even be faithful to their own texts.

You're assuming they're more than functionally illiterate numpties who want everyone else on their level.

I have no idea abt the Seven Mountains thing but in general there is no explaining to an evangelical that every part of every person's life wouldn't be better off under God's control. They have no perspective on this kind of thing.

the fundies i've met have been pretty demented, no matter what religion

"improvements in security"

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703730804576315531789204212.html

go barry

Laurel, it's these fuckwits: http://www.reclaim7mountains.com/

watch out for this tho: darrell issa (the oversight guy in the house) is going after this

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/266371/gun-walking-saga-continues-robert-verbruggen