US POLITICS SPRING 2011: Let's just call off this country.

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I was raised in the homeland of all these religious crazies, this shit about getting rid of secular education is the kind of stuff they force-fed us in Sunday School from jr high on up. Beware of the hidden secular agendas of academics when you go off to college, keep your guard up in all science classes, always be on the lookout for secular authorities to put obstacles in your way and for the world out there to test your faith.

At age 25 or 30 or w/e maybe you find kinda fringe conspiracy theories intriguing from a distanced intellectual POV, but can you imagine spoon-feeding them to precocious jr high students who are trained to look for symbolism in everything? This is what the church I went to did to us, ALL THE TIME. And they didn't mean to, as such, it's just that, you know, the paranoia behind all their ideas is overwhelming even when people appear to be calm in presenting it.

Back up the lesbian canoe (Laurel), Monday, 9 May 2011 20:34 (thirteen years ago) link

man i can't even

cop a cute abdomen (gbx), Monday, 9 May 2011 20:34 (thirteen years ago) link

lol'ing at Tea Party calling Boehner "surrenderist"

Wrinkles (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 9 May 2011 23:13 (thirteen years ago) link

But now Boehner is bending over backwards to make them happy--his speech to Wall Street yesterday demanding trillions in cuts with no tax increases if they want the debt limit raised. He was on the Today show this morning repeating his usual nonsense about the need to act like an "adult"(that means cutting aid for the middle class and poor and handing tax cuts to the rich and corporations ). Obama and the Dems in an ideal world would show courage and propose a plan that gets rid of the Bush tax cuts or even settle for and stick with the Obama plan (70 % of Americans in polls are in favor of the Dems tax plan for the rich). They'll probably blink again though.

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 10 May 2011 13:30 (thirteen years ago) link

guys there's a thread for this shit

40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 10 May 2011 13:31 (thirteen years ago) link

Ringwing crazy thread and US Politics thread covering the same topics is not a surprise though.

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 10 May 2011 13:43 (thirteen years ago) link

is it not politics anymore or

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 10 May 2011 15:06 (thirteen years ago) link

IT'S GENOCIDE

ginny thomas and tonic (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 10 May 2011 15:07 (thirteen years ago) link

* A new survey from Public Policy Polling shows Donald Trump’s support among Republican voters collapsing quickly. After quickly rising to the top of the GOP presidential field, Trump’s standing has fallen from 26% to 8% in just four weeks.

Tracer, you want to talk about this or Boehner, or is it not political...

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 10 May 2011 17:03 (thirteen years ago) link

Toddlers lose interest quickly.

Aimless, Tuesday, 10 May 2011 17:16 (thirteen years ago) link

^rabid primary GOP voters move on from one substance-free demagogue to the next like hyper-active pubescents. Herman Cain, you’re up

the dolphins are in the jacuzzi (will), Tuesday, 10 May 2011 17:42 (thirteen years ago) link

my dad, once the paragon of sobriety and prudence, has hitched his wagon to every dipshit show pony the "grassroots" right has rallied around since entering his 60s.

the dolphins are in the jacuzzi (will), Tuesday, 10 May 2011 17:46 (thirteen years ago) link

huh, there's a boardgame

http://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/6472/a-game-of-thrones

brownie, Tuesday, 10 May 2011 17:54 (thirteen years ago) link

oops worng thread

brownie, Tuesday, 10 May 2011 17:55 (thirteen years ago) link

my dad, once the paragon of sobriety and prudence, has hitched his wagon to every dipshit show pony the "grassroots" right has rallied around since entering his 60s.

sadly, so has my own once-sober and prudent father.

purveyor of pretentious porn made by hairy lesbians (Eisbaer), Tuesday, 10 May 2011 18:10 (thirteen years ago) link

My Dad still supports Obama and plays down any liberal to left criticisms of him

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 10 May 2011 18:25 (thirteen years ago) link

this is pretty good!

http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/1969/12/the-tragedy-of-sarah-palin/8492/

apparently she wasn't such a bad governor, for a while, and the 'reformer' thing was pretty otm

goole, Tuesday, 10 May 2011 18:29 (thirteen years ago) link

might prankvote for Herman Cain if he incorporates Godfather Pizza logo into campaign emblem

resistance does not require a firearm (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 10 May 2011 18:47 (thirteen years ago) link

Thanks for the article, goole.

ginny thomas and tonic (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 10 May 2011 19:14 (thirteen years ago) link

Yeah that was good. Had no idea that she stood up to Big Oil in AK.

cop a cute abdomen (gbx), Tuesday, 10 May 2011 19:27 (thirteen years ago) link

haha

goole, Tuesday, 10 May 2011 19:28 (thirteen years ago) link

wait really? you see that all the time from her fans, i just figured it was crap

goole, Tuesday, 10 May 2011 19:29 (thirteen years ago) link

Ive never really investigated palin too thoroughly tbh

cop a cute abdomen (gbx), Tuesday, 10 May 2011 19:30 (thirteen years ago) link

so, she might actually be a better prez than Bam huh?

resistance does not require a firearm (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 10 May 2011 19:47 (thirteen years ago) link

did you read it?

goole, Tuesday, 10 May 2011 19:47 (thirteen years ago) link

hell no, that's what you guys are here for.

resistance does not require a firearm (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 10 May 2011 19:53 (thirteen years ago) link

wait really? you see that all the time from her fans, i just figured it was crap

― goole, Tuesday, May 10, 2011 7:29 PM (23 minutes ago) Bookmark

did you? xp

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 10 May 2011 19:53 (thirteen years ago) link

lol

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 10 May 2011 19:54 (thirteen years ago) link

I still remember an article about her hiring an unqualified high school friend of hers to run her Department of Agriculture. This should have gotten alot more media attention.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/14/us/politics/14palin.html

So when there was a vacancy at the top of the State Division of Agriculture, she appointed a high school classmate, Franci Havemeister, to the $95,000-a-year directorship. A former real estate agent, Ms. Havemeister cited her childhood love of cows as a qualification for running the roughly $2 million agency.

"Childhood love of cows"....an awesome qualification for a job

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 11 May 2011 13:03 (thirteen years ago) link

"Childhood love of cows"....an awesome qualification for a job

you're being sarcastic but I would straight up vote for any candidate whose position was "vote for me, I had a childhood love of cows"

Steven Tyler the Creator (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Wednesday, 11 May 2011 13:06 (thirteen years ago) link

Ha. I can kind of see Palin defending her selection and citing that as a legit reason

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 11 May 2011 13:11 (thirteen years ago) link

can't find a jpeg of the photo of Gore Vidal running for a House seat in 1960 talking to a cow.

ginny thomas and tonic (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 11 May 2011 13:12 (thirteen years ago) link

RE: The anti-public schools thing. Do Republicans just want to cut the shit and run on a literal "We Hate The Poor" platform?

I mean I grew up in suburban Georgia going to public schools and rather than being surrounded by secular communist heathens, for the most part the place was in the hands of the local megachurches. It wasn't just that all the popular (read: wealthier) kids were bringing Bibles to class and always talking breathlessly about Youth Group; the adjacent megachurch regularly held functions on school grounds. The church nowadays is bigger than the high school was when i went, and has obviously taken in much more money.

Telephoneface (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 11 May 2011 14:05 (thirteen years ago) link

Yeah, I grew up in a region that didn't have any private schools, and iirc everyone loved Reagan and Bush. Are they suggesting that they close the public schools in rural Missouri and build new private schools where they've never existed? To fight socialism? What?

Z S, Wednesday, 11 May 2011 14:27 (thirteen years ago) link

It's so stupid I shit my pants, can't believe these guys get on the news somehow

Z S, Wednesday, 11 May 2011 14:29 (thirteen years ago) link

Just guessing but they'd probably like to close the public schools and then re-open them under new management and re-hire only staff who promise to teach according to so-called Christian values which basically means no science afaict.

Back up the lesbian canoe (Laurel), Wednesday, 11 May 2011 14:35 (thirteen years ago) link

And only the parts of history God would approve of.

Back up the lesbian canoe (Laurel), Wednesday, 11 May 2011 14:39 (thirteen years ago) link

Laurel, is it that 'seven mountains' thing that the hardcore Christians are into, and other Republicans are kind of useful idiots for? Which is to say, sl-o-o-o-wly gaining control of things like school boards in order to impose a disbelief system in things like evolution?

that's when i reach for my ︻╦╤─* (suzy), Wednesday, 11 May 2011 14:40 (thirteen years ago) link

You know if they ever succeeded in abolishing the secular curriculum and teaching only from the Bible we'd then have to contend with new radicals who only want to teach the parts of the Bible that fit their preconceived notions of religion + god. It's not like they'd even be faithful to their own texts.

Mordy, Wednesday, 11 May 2011 14:43 (thirteen years ago) link

You're assuming they're more than functionally illiterate numpties who want everyone else on their level.

that's when i reach for my ︻╦╤─* (suzy), Wednesday, 11 May 2011 14:44 (thirteen years ago) link

I have no idea abt the Seven Mountains thing but in general there is no explaining to an evangelical that every part of every person's life wouldn't be better off under God's control. They have no perspective on this kind of thing.

Back up the lesbian canoe (Laurel), Wednesday, 11 May 2011 14:47 (thirteen years ago) link

the fundies i've met have been pretty demented, no matter what religion

"improvements in security"

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703730804576315531789204212.html

go barry

reggie (qualmsley), Wednesday, 11 May 2011 14:51 (thirteen years ago) link

Laurel, it's these fuckwits: http://www.reclaim7mountains.com/

that's when i reach for my ︻╦╤─* (suzy), Wednesday, 11 May 2011 14:53 (thirteen years ago) link

watch out for this tho: darrell issa (the oversight guy in the house) is going after this

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/266371/gun-walking-saga-continues-robert-verbruggen

goole, Wednesday, 11 May 2011 14:59 (thirteen years ago) link

So glad these public officials are sick of public officials controlling what our children will learn, and are doing their best to control what our children will learn.

Telephoneface (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 11 May 2011 15:00 (thirteen years ago) link

obama at 60%?

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110511/ap_on_re_us/us_ap_poll_obama_boost

reggie (qualmsley), Wednesday, 11 May 2011 15:04 (thirteen years ago) link

I mean... I'm happy about that but on some level I can't help thinking that western political culture has not really improved since ancient Rome

40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 11 May 2011 15:09 (thirteen years ago) link

OUR KING, HE KILL THE BAD MAN

40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 11 May 2011 15:10 (thirteen years ago) link

Just guessing but they'd probably like to close the public schools and then re-open them under new management and re-hire only staff who promise to teach according to so-called Christian values which basically means no science afaict.

Wouldn't make much of a difference! I remember that before evolution was presented to us, the teacher gave a 10-minute long introduction that was basically like "we want to make it very clear that evolution is just a theory, and we are not saying that the word of the lord is wrong. Please don't sue us. We love the lord. Now let me get through this evolution stuff as quickly as possible, please don't sue us. Now, please bow your heads in prayer before this brief overview of the heretical evolution theory..."

Z S, Wednesday, 11 May 2011 15:10 (thirteen years ago) link

btw i'm pretty sure in his 60 Minutes interview Our King directly implied that adherents of a few major religions "need to have their heads examined" re the morality of killing.

resistance does not require a firearm (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 11 May 2011 15:16 (thirteen years ago) link


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