What Kind of Movies Do You Like?

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I never quite liked Pi, though a girl with a broken arm bought me popcorn and fed it to me throughout. To me Pi was an overlong proof for the equation "genius = doomed to pain", a formula that they didn't manage to interest me in. The guy wasn't Icarus, he wasn't even necessarily a genius; he was a paranoid schizophrenic whose "friends" mysteriously never noticed that he desperately needed help.

Re: Cohens: all their movies are about other movies, or about the expectations that a lifetime of movie-watching can put you in. This works really well for me when their movies are set in the present - a very self-reflexive, hyper-commentated time. When set in the past, their heightened ironic style jars - Barton Fink, Hudsucker Proxy, O Brother. Never complained too much about the regional accents until this last one which hit way too close to home - and nobody even came close to getting the accent right! We expect so little of our actors these days!

More movies ought to help you notice details in your life, or in others' lives, that you may have missed. Yi Yi by Edward Yang does this very effectively. When I walked out of it, I noticed other people entirely differently for a few minutes, like there were invisible threads between us; no one spoke, feeling gauche, no one wanted to break the spell. So it's no surprise my fave directors are John Cassavetes, Terence Malick, Bunuel, etc. Is my pop cred finished?

Am very interested in Mark S.'s take on Pokemon 3 though the conversation will be rather one-sided since he's probably only one who's seen it. I saw A.I. yesterday and am armed and ready for total critical destruction of all Spielbergian gloss but I will stand down since y'all prolly haven't seen it yet.

Tracer Hand, Monday, 2 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

The math stuff in Pi was horribly wrong, but I tried very hard to ignore it - the focus was him being fucked anyway, the math didn't actually matter.

As for Coens = Ween - I am appalled. Ween can suck it. The Coens make movies to entertain. Ween make records so they can afford to buy more glue to sniff. Plus: despite all the other stuff, I think the heart of Big Lebowski is the relationship between the Dude, Walter, and Donnie, and that is superbly done.

Josh, Monday, 2 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Ally - so if you hated gangster movies and then liked Goodfellas, isn't that a complaint of yours being answered well? What was the complaint? Where did Goodfellas succeed where the others failed? Certainly not in subject matter - same movie Scorcese's been making for years - soundtrack was good blah blah - so what was it?

Tracer Hand, Monday, 2 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

I like films that keep me interested in what's going to happen next. But not in a pointlessly convoluted murder mystery whodunnit way (like when smug gits say afterwards "You must have seen that coming a mile off!" and I'm like "No, sorry. I was too busy watching the fucking film"). Thinking about films is a total dud, I mean, aren't writers/directors/producers paid to do the thinking for you? Action sequences/Eye Candy/Stunts/Technical Greatness have very little appeal to me. Sorry. Short term brainless cliffhangers for me: Is he gonna die? Will she ever find her long lost third cousin? Will he escape from impossibly complex fortress/lair/sinking ship/alien kidnappers? Will she get her norks out? Trashy movies like the Channel 5/Living ones Kate mentioned fit me perfectly (making up a more interesting story than what really happens makes you fell so gosh-darned clever), and an equally rich seam can be found on BBC1, midnight weekdays.

I have no recognition of what good and bad acting is, with the obvious exception of the impossibly bad Ashley off of Eastenders.

Films I seem to watch every time they're on even though I know they're crap and pointless and excruciating and I've seen them a million times before: Short Circuit 1+2, Back to the future 1+2+3, Honey I Blew up the Kids 1+2, Flight of the Navigator. And so on.

Graham, Monday, 2 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

I'm a sucker for war films, but only decent ones, none of that Kelly's Heroes rubbish.

DG, Monday, 2 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Tracer: Simple fact is that it was well made and not romaticised. It felt "honest" to me, whereas the Godfather and its ilk are nothing more than fairy tales. Convoluted ones at that.

Ally, Monday, 2 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Well then there you go... Although I liked the Godfather. But I'm a sucker for all that "old country" stuff, Pacino in paisano gear roaming the Sicilian countryside. And there are great moments in that film, small glances that destroy. In general I agree abt stylized romanticism tho -- not only in gangster movies but in any period piece where each shoelace looks like it cost more than my house. If you went by the movies you saw you'd think that everything in the past was very expensive and well-groomed.

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 3 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

'Godfather I' was a fairy tale (no less good for that), 'Godfather 2' was an ice-cold dissection of the American century blah blah, but 'Goodfellas' was the most wildly overrated film ever - sure, loads of fantastic bits, but didn't the story arc just kind of...fizzle...("Johny was in prison upstate, Pauly was somewhere else...I don't know..." - I know this was supposed to illustrate how 'normal' being inside'n'outside was to them, but who wants to see a 'normal' working day on screen? Especially since it immediately afterwards into the apocalyptic cocaine paranoia - I mean, come on! Helicopters? This is out of a 60's Richard Rush film, with Bruce Dern! Marty exorcising his lost weekend with Robbie Robertson, why not use "Stage Fright" instead of "Monkey Man") Anyway, for the supposedly quotidien counterblast to 'Godfather', he did a FAR better job with 'Mean Streets', earlier on

tarden, Tuesday, 3 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Hey, I like Ween! I can see what people mean though. I think the difference is, when Ween is on you can program the good tracks and do the dishes, whereas with film you have to sit in one position and watch the brothers jerk off for nearly two hours.
If Coen bros=Ween, then does David Fincher=Korn?

tarden, Tuesday, 3 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

i rather like trite films. but archly stylistic piles of toss are just as good...

gareth, Wednesday, 4 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Trying to think of an archly stylistic pile of toss which is also trite : I know Absolute Beginners. You'd love that Gareth.

Pete, Wednesday, 4 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

um, hated absolute beginners, sorry pete...

gareth, Thursday, 5 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link


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