2008 Primaries Thread 2: THE QUICKENING

Yeah that's what I mean. He sounds like even he's bored listening to his speech.

xpost.

Chris Matthews is making a good point re: McCain.

McCain is surrounded by listless, elder establishment types, and he seems -- compared to Obama -- very listless and defensive.

(Still, War Hero; Hawk; Maverick; Press LOVES him. Hard to beat).

I thought the press "loved" Obama now.

the press is a drrty tramp, obv

http://images.politico.com/global/clintonshirt.jpg

The "ma" is for "Obama," obviously.

McCain is better at schmoozing with the press than he is at speaking to a crowd. He can't deliver a pre-written text worth a damn. Off-the-cuff sometimes he can sound OK.

I thought the press "loved" Obama now.

They do, Alfred. It's hard to tell, tho, whether the press' current love for Obama is analogous to Matt Drudge's "love" for HRC earlier in the election cycle (i.e., the love of a great story, aided by a seething hatred for HRC, who doesn't like or trust the press). Also, the press doesn't love Obama like it loves McCain. The press loves Obama, but the press loves McCain.

"Ma Clinton"

McCain, like Hitchens, is only great when he's got someone to hate.

Hm. Is it me, or was Obama a bit more pointed in tonight's speech against Republicans? I mean, there was that savvy praise of John McCain, but I thought otherwise, Obama laid into the GOP pretty good.

My dad: "Obama is the best stump speaker since the Kennedys. If you see the old speeches of Robert Kennedy and John Kennedy, they move people. Barrack Obama moves people."

And then there's this:

http://media.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/photo/homepage/hp2-12-08q.jpg

Warner's hair is a thing of beauty.

NOT THAT THERE'S ANYTHING WRONG WITH THAT, NED. Just two men showing some healthy affection for each other.

There's some nuzzling going on there.

john mccain talks like the real seymour skinner

-- m bison, Wednesday, 13 February 2008 03:08 (38 minutes ago)

CNN's Anderson Cooper is TEH REAL Simpsons character in this race! His upper lip can't keep up with all that he's saying, it's quite insane!

Also, has McCain stuffed several previous presidents in his left cheek? Is Nixon hidden in there somewhere, or should he seriously see a doctor?

Good point, tho it's encouraging to see the Democratic leadership on the offensive at this juncture, going right at John McCain's supposed strengths.

Also, has McCain stuffed several previous presidents in his left cheek? Is Nixon hidden in there somewhere, or should he seriously see a doctor?

He's suffered from malignant melanoma.

He's suffered from malignant melanoma.

Didn't know that, thanks.

Yeah - he's apparently in pretty good shape otherwise, but I wonder how he's going to hold up to the stress of a general election campaign. He's 71 years old! My grandparents are only a few years older than that, and they're pretty active for their old age - but I wouldn't want them running the country. I just don't think their bodies and minds could withstand the sheer weight of it.

ageist

I haven't heard much, thus far, about the fringe crazies' reaction to Obama's ascendancy, but I'm sure KKK/skinhead-types are apoplectic now.

Anyone seen anything on this?

False "madrassa" story about Barack Obama

Yeah, but that's more like a GOP attempt to "Swift Boat" Obama, no? I'm talking more about base-level, frenzied skinhead-ish craziness.

they're writing angry letters to their representatives.

I would attempt a serious response but I'm too busy thinking about PIRANHA 3D: THEY FLY @ U FACE

With crayons, maybe.

(xp)

YES, I WANT TO SEE THAT BIDEO.

(Oh, will Piranha 3D get a wide theatrical release?)

Yeah, but that's more like a GOP attempt to "Swift Boat" Obama, no? I'm talking more about base-level, frenzied skinhead-ish craziness.

seems exactly like the latter to me.

What Tombot said.

I would like to see a copy of the minutes for the first skinhead meeting after obama is elected president.

Right! That's entertainment.

Skipping 192 messages at this point... Click here if you want to load them all.

whoah.

1,000 new answers by midnight

-- Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, February 12, 2008 9:27 PM

A seer.

8:32 P.M. discuss plans to assassinate president
8:45 P.M. keep brothers from moving to Canada
8:51 P.M. Coffee with extra cream and powdered sugar donuts ONLY!

Okay, of all the various bad political cartoons out there recently, this might take the cake -- thanks, Daily Telegraph!

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/graphics/2008/02/11/ixd11big.gif

wow, so many levels.

i love how the tornado couldn't give a shit that the woman has downs syndrome.

camilla paglia is pretty great at salon

oh this camille pagila?

On the climate-change front, Denis Dutton, founder of the superb Arts & Letters Daily Web site, has created a new site, Climate Debate Daily, as a forum for both sides in the ferocious controversy over global warming. The site's lucid dual format is exactly what has been needed to shed scholarly light on this heavily politicized battle, which has been very difficult to follow for everyone but fanatical true believers. Climate change, whether man-made or (as I think) natural, will remain a vital issue for decades simply because it is shaping or coercing government policy worldwide.

On another front, while I think McCain will be the favorite in a GE with Obama, I think it's interesting that the early line of attack he's taking is just like the one that HRC is employing, unsuccessfully ("My experience allows me to achieve change, not just talk about it").

McCain v. Obama would be the biggest age-gap in a GE contest ever.

not even the 1932 shirley temple/will rogers match?

Democratic Races
Reporting
1st Place
2nd Place

DC 98%

Obama 75%
Clinton 24%

MD 67%

Obama 60%
Clinton 37%

VA 99%

Obama 64%
Clinton 35%

Jesus, he really DID get 3-1 in DC

Whereas:

Republican Races
Reporting
1st Place
2nd Place

DC 98%

McCain 68%
Huckabee 17%

MD 67%

McCain 55%
Huckabee 30%

VA 99%

McCain 50%
Huckabee 41%

The Huck ain't getting much traction there...

Yeah, but that's more like a GOP attempt to "Swift Boat" Obama, no? I'm talking more about base-level, frenzied skinhead-ish craziness.

as if there's a difference any more?!?

Great headlines of all time - http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/mccain