the freys are the biggest pieces of shit in the books imo
― Blink 187um (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 20 May 2011 22:56 (thirteen years ago) link
thats pretty much the common theory on jon since it explains ned's treatment of him pretty decently (his oft-referred promise to lyanna was to keep her kid safe, he can't reveal the truth to anyone lest word get to the king who would order him killed for being heir to house targaryen). hopefully that'll be confirmed/denied in the next book instead of stringing us along until the end of the series to find out if we were right. there's one character left alive (howland reed) who was with ned when lyanna died and presumably shares the secret.
― ciderpress, Friday, 20 May 2011 23:09 (thirteen years ago) link
howland fuckin reed man. howland fuckin reed.
― ban drake (the rapper) (max), Friday, 20 May 2011 23:11 (thirteen years ago) link
^^this.
― EZ Snappin, Friday, 20 May 2011 23:12 (thirteen years ago) link
walder frey's an awesome villain, and i was unbelievably stoked when i found out they cast david bradley in the role:
http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/01177/arts-graphics-2007_1177125a.jpg
― anime hitler, the futanari führer (Princess TamTam), Friday, 20 May 2011 23:12 (thirteen years ago) link
enjoying my re-read of these in anticipation of the new one, i just started book 2 and there's so much i had forgotten, basically everything except the few major plot twists. it's all coming back to me now though.
― ciderpress, Friday, 20 May 2011 23:13 (thirteen years ago) link
― ciderpress, Friday, May 20, 2011 7:09 PM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark
yeah. i think thats why we havent met howland reed yet - dude just knows too much. didnt ned say that he couldnt have beat arthur dayne w/o reed's help? im so curious about how that went down
i didnt pick up on jon's real parentage at all on my readthrough, so when i read about it online i was like :OOOOOOOO
― anime hitler, the futanari führer (Princess TamTam), Friday, 20 May 2011 23:16 (thirteen years ago) link
I'm gonna be bummed if Frey just kicks the bucket. Martin has a habit of denying you vengeance -- both joffrey and the mountain die in ways that aren't particularly satisfying. though tywin gets his for sure.
I wouldn't be surprised if jons royal parentage comes out in the context of melisandre needing royal blood to wake the dragon
― ban drake (the rapper) (max), Friday, 20 May 2011 23:20 (thirteen years ago) link
god, the mountain. the duel between him & the red viper was maybe the most visceral moment in the series for me - the way martin has you doubting that he can stand up to gregor, then slowly lets you think maybe he can win, then pulls the rug out from under you is great imo. also apparently gregor clegane's an undead zombie golem now. i hope sandor gets to kill him!
― anime hitler, the futanari führer (Princess TamTam), Friday, 20 May 2011 23:25 (thirteen years ago) link
i'll be real impressed if martin can pull off all the undead stuff w/o it seeming stupid
― Blink 187um (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 20 May 2011 23:30 (thirteen years ago) link
love these books so fukken much
― one dis leads to another (ian), Friday, 20 May 2011 23:32 (thirteen years ago) link
the daynes are definitely Persons Of Interest. They have purple eyes!
― ban drake (the rapper) (max), Saturday, 21 May 2011 00:12 (thirteen years ago) link
darkstar's p comical - he shows up, acts like a hot topic teen and then all he can do is cut a little girl's ear off and run away
― anime hitler, the futanari führer (Princess TamTam), Saturday, 21 May 2011 00:24 (thirteen years ago) link
the dornish princess and her buds seem like such lame-os
― ban drake (the rapper) (max), Saturday, 21 May 2011 00:28 (thirteen years ago) link
honestly i think i h8d joffrey more than the freys i wanted that little fucker to get set on fire and then disembowled or s.thing
one of things i really liked abt the fourth book was how it suggested all these counterfactuals - what if mad aerys had allowed cersei to marry rhaegar
― ᵉ( ᷅ʷɣʷ)ᵊ (Lamp), Saturday, 21 May 2011 00:38 (thirteen years ago) link
i was really hoping the hound would just get fed up w/joffrey and suddenly behead him in one clean motion
― anime hitler, the futanari führer (Princess TamTam), Saturday, 21 May 2011 00:46 (thirteen years ago) link
― ᵉ( ᷅ʷɣʷ)ᵊ (Lamp), Friday, May 20, 2011 8:38 PM (8 minutes ago) Bookmark
one of my favorite running jokes is how martin keeps letting you think x character might get sent to the wall (ned, theon, tyrion) and lets you get all excited about that for a minute before bein like 'lol fuk u' and goes in a different direction
tbh i kept hoping ned would show up at the wall well into clash of kings ;_;
― anime hitler, the futanari führer (Princess TamTam), Saturday, 21 May 2011 00:50 (thirteen years ago) link
he loves to set plots almost in motion and then pull the rug out from under you!!
WHAT IF.... arya teamed up with sam the slayer???
WHAT IF.... brienne swore allegiance to Roberts bastard???
― ban drake (the rapper) (max), Saturday, 21 May 2011 00:57 (thirteen years ago) link
lol @ sam the slayer
― one dis leads to another (ian), Sunday, 22 May 2011 01:24 (thirteen years ago) link
arya is gonna be one tuff fuckin broad imo.
― one dis leads to another (ian), Sunday, 22 May 2011 01:25 (thirteen years ago) link
u think shes for real blind or what
― ban drake (the rapper) (max), Sunday, 22 May 2011 02:44 (thirteen years ago) link
Anyone else find the Arya stuff in the last book a little lame? Like she wandered into your standard fantasy training to be the greatest warrior shit
― Number None, Sunday, 22 May 2011 02:48 (thirteen years ago) link
i have my doubts re: her being perma-blind
re: standard fantasy training - she seems to be turning into a creepy psycho more than a greatest warrior so idk
― farty f baby (Princess TamTam), Sunday, 22 May 2011 05:37 (thirteen years ago) link
Creepy psychos are awesome, tho
― I HAVE ISSUES (DJP), Sunday, 22 May 2011 15:09 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah i thought she was gonna be an assassin or some shit, not like some do-gooder
― one dis leads to another (ian), Monday, 23 May 2011 20:04 (thirteen years ago) link
kinda assuming she will leave the facelessbros at some point and team up with jon, danaerys or tyrion
― ban drake (the rapper) (max), Monday, 23 May 2011 20:34 (thirteen years ago) link
but i think a lot of wrong shit tbh
i'm convinced bran is turning into a creepy psycho, too.
― remy bean, Monday, 23 May 2011 20:38 (thirteen years ago) link
Rickon is going to end up uniting the 7 Kingdoms and the Wildlings
― I HAVE ISSUES (DJP), Monday, 23 May 2011 20:40 (thirteen years ago) link
arya + daenerys wd be amazing, too.
― remy bean, Monday, 23 May 2011 20:40 (thirteen years ago) link
remy, no!! Bran is going to be awesome!
― Back up the lesbian canoe (Laurel), Monday, 23 May 2011 20:41 (thirteen years ago) link
Faceless folk seem like hacks to me, would enjoy it if she just killed that kindly old man.
― abcfsk, Monday, 23 May 2011 20:42 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah no way bran can be a psycho with jojen reed supervising him
― ban drake (the rapper) (max), Monday, 23 May 2011 20:43 (thirteen years ago) link
― I HAVE ISSUES (DJP), Monday, May 23, 2011 4:40 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
i dont get why martin wont just kill him off already
― ban drake (the rapper) (max), Monday, 23 May 2011 20:44 (thirteen years ago) link
HODOR ftw
― brownie, Monday, 23 May 2011 20:45 (thirteen years ago) link
im still #teampodrick
― ban drake (the rapper) (max), Monday, 23 May 2011 20:46 (thirteen years ago) link
should we start a dance with dragons thread
― ban drake (the rapper) (max), Monday, 23 May 2011 21:06 (thirteen years ago) link
probably but I'm lazy
― I HAVE ISSUES (DJP), Monday, 23 May 2011 21:06 (thirteen years ago) link
also can i just say how much it annoys me that martin titled three of the boys X of Y and is now changing up his prepositions
the last two should be called The Winds Between Winter and A Dream Before Spring
― I HAVE ISSUES (DJP), Monday, 23 May 2011 21:08 (thirteen years ago) link
a dream up spring
― ban drake (the rapper) (max), Monday, 23 May 2011 21:10 (thirteen years ago) link
hahaha
― I HAVE ISSUES (DJP), Monday, 23 May 2011 21:10 (thirteen years ago) link
trying to reread these in anticipation gawd is bran the worst
― ᵉ( ᷅ʷɣʷ)ᵊ (Lamp), Monday, 23 May 2011 23:09 (thirteen years ago) link
rickon is worse
― ban drake (the rapper) (max), Monday, 23 May 2011 23:26 (thirteen years ago) link
HODOR
― brownie, Monday, 23 May 2011 23:34 (thirteen years ago) link
more like BLODOR
― ᵉ( ᷅ʷɣʷ)ᵊ (Lamp), Monday, 23 May 2011 23:38 (thirteen years ago) link
THE HODIARTRIST
― brownie, Monday, 23 May 2011 23:50 (thirteen years ago) link
lol whats your beef w/rickon max - he doesnt have any POVs and he literally ceases to exist after the 2nd book
― farty f baby (Princess TamTam), Tuesday, 24 May 2011 02:05 (thirteen years ago) link
hes nuts, way too hyper, cant control his wolf, its like, chill out lil bro
― ban drake (the rapper) (max), Tuesday, 24 May 2011 02:07 (thirteen years ago) link
speaking of shit that annoys me in these books
why are the starks "words" (dont even get me started on calling it "words" instead of "motto") in the present progressive?? "winter is coming" sucks -- what about "winter will come" or "winter always comes" or something? even "winter comes" would be better.
― ban drake (the rapper) (max), Tuesday, 24 May 2011 02:10 (thirteen years ago) link