Best Martin Scorsese movie

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balls, Thursday, 21 August 2008 23:52 (fifteen years ago) link

hahahaha

but seriously I hated that movie

Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 21 August 2008 23:52 (fifteen years ago) link

John-Goodman-backwards-snow-scene notwithstanding

Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 21 August 2008 23:53 (fifteen years ago) link

o i hated it too and have almost completely forgotten it (totally forgot ving rhames was in it). at the time i was selling myself on 'he's biding his time til gangs of new york' - JOKES ON ME!

balls, Thursday, 21 August 2008 23:58 (fifteen years ago) link

i had a friend that was a huge nic cage fan and was primed for botd to be some sorta redemption/return to form after the bruckenheimer stuff. NOPE!

balls, Friday, 22 August 2008 00:00 (fifteen years ago) link

I loved Bringing Out the Dead! Don't understand the animosity at all.

Nhex, Friday, 22 August 2008 03:03 (fifteen years ago) link

re: After Hours - the protagonist (I don't even remember his name, is it anything as goofy as Pupkin or Bickle?) spends most of his time being alternately confused and abused by his city. [..]in a way, as the city taking its revenge on him for this attitude.

interesting thought, it sounds plausible.

Ludo, Friday, 22 August 2008 07:07 (fifteen years ago) link

if DiNiro and Scorsese weren't at least in partial thrall to Bickle, the movie would be half as good, honest or challenging.

I have to agree. I seem to remember the filmmakers saying in a documentary somewhere that they made TD because they wanted to put onscreen a particular way they all felt about New York. I honestly wouldn't put racism and paranoia past either scriptwriter or director, but do think they at least deal with it and don't romanticize it. The weirder twist, for me, is the anti-racist Paul Simonon and the Clash quoting the "some day a great storm" speech in their song heroizing... the Guardian Angels?!?!

Pete Scholtes, Friday, 22 August 2008 22:48 (fifteen years ago) link

how in the hell could anybody vote for Shine a Light?

Hubie Brown, Friday, 22 August 2008 23:02 (fifteen years ago) link

The weirder twist, for me, is the anti-racist Paul Simonon and the Clash quoting the "some day a great storm" speech in their song heroizing... the Guardian Angels?!?!

yeah i've never understood the p.o.v. of "red angel dragnet." then again in interviews around that time they all seem completely hopped up on god knows what, so they may not have been thinking clearly. probably they just liked the berets.

tipsy mothra, Friday, 22 August 2008 23:22 (fifteen years ago) link

the Clash loved a good uniform, no doubt about it

Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 22 August 2008 23:30 (fifteen years ago) link

"no direction home" would've been my no. 2.

J.D., Saturday, 23 August 2008 21:20 (fifteen years ago) link

two years pass...

Cape Fear is such a goddamned silly movie. 2/3rds of must be close-ups of Nick Nolte's sweaty face. Love all the hammy acting tho

bring me your finest milksteak and a side of jellybeans (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 26 August 2010 19:51 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah on the 'how do you pronounce lawyer' thread i was tempted to post a clip of 'COWN-SUH-LUH'

balls, Thursday, 26 August 2010 20:07 (thirteen years ago) link

still can't believe raging bull's poor showing up there

balls, Thursday, 26 August 2010 20:08 (thirteen years ago) link

in the words of Lou Reed, "there's just so many favorites to choose from"

kinda most surprised by the high showing for After Hours. Which is great and all.

I drink your milksteak (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 26 August 2010 20:11 (thirteen years ago) link

Cape Fear was where it all went south. Above and beyond the fact that it was a film that just didn't need to be made--the original's quite good enough--it was absolutely hysterical. Those scenes near the end of De Niro ranting and raving...There'd just never been anything remotely so embarrassing in a Scorcese film up to that point.

clemenza, Thursday, 26 August 2010 20:19 (thirteen years ago) link

The Color of Money was pretty lousy. That's the point where I was like "okay Martin's maybe running out of ideas."

Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Thursday, 26 August 2010 20:23 (thirteen years ago) link

Raging Bull is my jump-the-shark moment.

Gucci Mane hermeneuticist (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 26 August 2010 20:25 (thirteen years ago) link

Other than Goodfellas, "Life Lessons" is probably my favorite post-86 Scorsese thing.

Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Thursday, 26 August 2010 20:27 (thirteen years ago) link

There's a lot that I like about The Color of Money, starting with Cruise's performance and the "Werewolves of London" set-piece. Not as good as The Hustler, and Newman's Academy Award was strictly a lifetime-achievement thing--I think he's mostly pretty good, though--but I was still with Scorcese at that point.

clemenza, Thursday, 26 August 2010 20:27 (thirteen years ago) link

i'm sure Cape Fear was just fine to the kids raised on those stinko '80s horror films

kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 26 August 2010 20:29 (thirteen years ago) link

Scorsese--I've only written the name 10 zillion times, so it makes sense that I'm misspelling it.

clemenza, Thursday, 26 August 2010 20:30 (thirteen years ago) link

Other than Goodfellas, "Life Lessons" is probably my favorite post-86 Scorsese thing.

^^^^ The guy has a couple of great films and a handful of good moments.

Gucci Mane hermeneuticist (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 26 August 2010 20:31 (thirteen years ago) link

I say five for sure--the four that are too obvious to list, plus King of Comedy--and maybe Who's That Knocking at My Door, although I think that's more a film of great sequences than a great film.

clemenza, Thursday, 26 August 2010 20:34 (thirteen years ago) link

Plus two or three great documentaries the past decade.

clemenza, Thursday, 26 August 2010 20:35 (thirteen years ago) link

holy moses did i enjoy watching shutter island again at the cottage some weeks ago... this movie is MADE to be watched on home video, all the b-movie-ishness just makes so much sense

piranha karenina (s1ocki), Thursday, 26 August 2010 20:48 (thirteen years ago) link

ditto to 'life lessons' love - i think that was the official entry to my scorsese love (and to my dylan love also)(procol harum love never set in though), i remember seeing that and some clips from a not yet released goodfellas on some pbs thing and just getting instantly obsessed w/ the guy. will rep for age of innocence also though i haven't seen that since it was in theaters and to be honest what i remember most is the saul bass credit sequence - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wi65QJW-c6o. weird that casino, which combines basically the two good scorsese themes - mob story plus story about a guy with woman issues - was such a misfire.

balls, Thursday, 26 August 2010 20:50 (thirteen years ago) link

casinowned

('_') (omar little), Thursday, 26 August 2010 20:52 (thirteen years ago) link

I'm excited about Hugo Cabret –- Paris, mystery, automata, Méliès, train crashes...

SYNTAX ERROR (remy bean), Thursday, 26 August 2010 21:19 (thirteen years ago) link

I would just like to point out that in Cape Fear, Joe Don Baker drinks Pepto Bismol mixed with Jim Beam

I drink your milksteak (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 27 August 2010 22:57 (thirteen years ago) link

and why not?

Gucci Mane hermeneuticist (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 27 August 2010 23:22 (thirteen years ago) link

that was from the behind the scenes footage, right

('_') (omar little), Friday, 27 August 2010 23:22 (thirteen years ago) link

one month passes...

I thought The Color of Money was bleh for many years until I saw it again last night: man, the first nine minutes, with Newman scoping out Mastrantonio and Cruise while "One More Night" plays in the background, is superbly edited.

raging hetero lifechill (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 23 October 2010 02:05 (thirteen years ago) link

I'd say the first 59 or 69 or 79 minutes are pretty solid. However long it is till Newman and Cruise split.

clemenza, Saturday, 23 October 2010 02:30 (thirteen years ago) link

Christopher Moltisanti: [to Martin Scorsese] Marty! "Kundun", I liked it!

Princess TamTam, Saturday, 23 October 2010 02:36 (thirteen years ago) link

Nobody's gonna rep for Alice Doesn't Live Here Anymore?

Princess TamTam, Saturday, 23 October 2010 02:51 (thirteen years ago) link

I don't remember if I voted but woulda voted Bringing Out the Dead

iatee, Saturday, 23 October 2010 02:52 (thirteen years ago) link

I've watched Alice a couple of times, years apart. It's so different from everything else; I have a hard time remembering specifics, except maybe Mott the Hoople over the opening credits. Bringing Out the Dead is such an unusual choice...not for me, but I did love the few seconds you get of "Rang Ting Ding Dong."

clemenza, Saturday, 23 October 2010 04:02 (thirteen years ago) link

love the credits and opening to Alice.

circa1916, Saturday, 23 October 2010 04:22 (thirteen years ago) link

three weeks pass...

Happy 68th!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5RyqtrGnicc

clemenza, Wednesday, 17 November 2010 12:35 (thirteen years ago) link

one month passes...

watched Mean Streets for the first time in I dunno 20 years last night. He never really made another movie like this, did he?

assorted curses (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 4 January 2011 23:07 (thirteen years ago) link

he's tried though

Gus Van Sotosyn (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 4 January 2011 23:27 (thirteen years ago) link

Mean Streets and Taxi Driver both really stand out to me as films from a different (more interesting) director.

Matt Armstrong, Tuesday, 4 January 2011 23:31 (thirteen years ago) link

Mean Streets didn't have enough focus. It almost felt like reality TV.

heh (kelpolaris), Tuesday, 4 January 2011 23:39 (thirteen years ago) link

I guess Bringing Out the Dead is maybe closest to Mean Streets? that sort of dreamy, episodic, highly stylized approach (I hated BOTTD though). can really see the Kenneth Anger influence in Mean Streets as well, in the way it marries pop music to feverish, striking images. And unlike a lot of his other films, MS is definitely lacking in the plot/narrative department. it just drifts along from one setpiece/vignette to the next. very little of it is actually mean or threatening in any way.

I did lol when I recognized chubby, long-haired Richie Aprile though

assorted curses (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 4 January 2011 23:40 (thirteen years ago) link

it just drifts along from one setpiece/vignette to the next. very little of it is actually mean or threatening in any way.

Which does make the end death scene ever more of a shock (It just seemed inevitable that somebody would die, but it was up for grabs who and when). Which I guess is a merit, but not a reason I'd triumph lack of cohesion any more over even just a semblance of some.

heh (kelpolaris), Tuesday, 4 January 2011 23:46 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah by the time I saw this originally I had already seen Taxi Driver and Goodfellas etc and was expecting more of the same so I was more surprised by the LACK of violent outbursts than anything elese

assorted curses (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 4 January 2011 23:48 (thirteen years ago) link

shine a light could also use some violent outbursts imo

sonderangerbot, Tuesday, 4 January 2011 23:51 (thirteen years ago) link

lol yeah god that is awful

assorted curses (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 4 January 2011 23:51 (thirteen years ago) link


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