i am so so so there for this if aaron eckhart is playing harvey dent tho. i mean i was there for this before that but now i'm 100% on board.
― the schef (adam schefter ha ha), Tuesday, 22 May 2007 16:28 (seventeen years ago) link
Look upthread, Ally.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 22 May 2007 16:29 (seventeen years ago) link
wtf do you think i was referring to, ned.
― the schef (adam schefter ha ha), Tuesday, 22 May 2007 16:29 (seventeen years ago) link
u makin me crazy, bro!!
― the schef (adam schefter ha ha), Tuesday, 22 May 2007 16:30 (seventeen years ago) link
xpost Whoa. Now I happen to think that Batman Begins is the best batman movie yet, but let's not get too crazy. Keaton was awesome, and Burton's film was a lot of fun.
― Fluffy Bear Hearts Rainbows, Tuesday, 22 May 2007 16:30 (seventeen years ago) link
It was your use of the word 'if' that threw me! But now I'm imagining a scenario where they cast him, took the promo photos and then told him they were fucking with him.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 22 May 2007 16:32 (seventeen years ago) link
omg that should be casting industry standard procedure.
― jessie monster, Tuesday, 22 May 2007 16:35 (seventeen years ago) link
"Michael Keaton" and "awesome" are only allowed in the same sentence as "Beetlejuice" sorry.
― jessie monster, Tuesday, 22 May 2007 16:36 (seventeen years ago) link
How soon we forget "Jack Frost."
― Oilyrags, Tuesday, 22 May 2007 16:38 (seventeen years ago) link
How soon thankfully we forget "Jack Frost."
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 22 May 2007 16:41 (seventeen years ago) link
It's all Jungian and shit. Fuckin' Morrison. (I don't think AA is one of his better works, but I'd take minor Morrison over a Loeb 'masterpiece' anyday.)
-- Oilyrags, Tuesday, May 22, 2007 4:26 PM (9 minutes ago)
Ya, I got the Jung undertones, I think it was just too much atmosphere and too little comprehensible story for my tastes. I loved the art, but it was too difficult to follow. I suppose I should go back and read Morrison's annotated script in the back.
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 22 May 2007 16:41 (seventeen years ago) link
AA is a bit of a big mess, but it was one of the first things I remember reading with Morrison's name on it - definitely put him on my radar
― Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 22 May 2007 17:35 (seventeen years ago) link
Dear Jessie,
You are wrong.
Sincerely,
Mr Mom
― nickalicious, Tuesday, 22 May 2007 19:52 (seventeen years ago) link
MR. MOM (1983)
Plot Keywords: Child Nudity / Self Discovery
― jessie monster, Tuesday, 22 May 2007 19:57 (seventeen years ago) link
i actually liked him as batman
― latebloomer, Tuesday, 22 May 2007 20:00 (seventeen years ago) link
I actually liked Arkham Asylum.
― Abbott, Tuesday, 22 May 2007 20:06 (seventeen years ago) link
I like it as well! Then again it's one of the few Batman books/stories I actually own/have read, which probably skews my viewpoint on the whole cycle.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 22 May 2007 20:07 (seventeen years ago) link
I only have Killing Joke, Year One, and a copy of AA that a friend gave me. Don't feel the need for much else (I can't stand Frank Miller anymore)
― Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 22 May 2007 20:09 (seventeen years ago) link
Wouldn't it be great if they'd someday come up with a Batman/Robin love story, where Katie Holmes would act as Bruce Wayne's beard?
No.
― HI DERE, Tuesday, 22 May 2007 20:19 (seventeen years ago) link
here is how I rank Batman books I own:
Killing Joke > Arkham Asylum > Year One > Long Halloween > Dark Victory
― jessie monster, Tuesday, 22 May 2007 20:19 (seventeen years ago) link
I only want to see Robin in a Batman movie if they are going to kill him or if he ends up hating Batman for being the psycho he is.
― jessie monster, Tuesday, 22 May 2007 20:20 (seventeen years ago) link
<quote>Wouldn't it be great if they'd someday come up with a Batman/Robin love story, where Katie Holmes would act as Bruce Wayne's beard?
-- HI DERE, Tuesday, May 22, 2007 8:19 PM (46 seconds ago) Bookmark Link </quote>
Oh, I could live with it. Williewonkafy the whole Batman concept til its so silver age it hurts and doesn't really affect perception of the Batnolan movies and it'd be fine.
― Oilyrags, Tuesday, 22 May 2007 20:22 (seventeen years ago) link
See you in December = when the first teaser trailers are released?
― Alba, Tuesday, 22 May 2007 21:25 (seventeen years ago) link
omg jessie u r soooo wrong the iconic Batman is mortal perfection personified wlomgoltf.
― Leee, Tuesday, 22 May 2007 21:39 (seventeen years ago) link
Are there actually any truly great Batman graphic novels or miniseries besides the Miller ones and Killing Joke? Because most of the ones I've read have been disappointing in one way or another, and I've never had the money or time to follow the monthly books.
― Tuomas, Wednesday, 23 May 2007 09:35 (seventeen years ago) link
Batman and Judge Dredd Files is a must to own by any fan of Batman comics or otherwise, 3 stories by different writers and artists.
― Ste, Wednesday, 23 May 2007 10:34 (seventeen years ago) link
Oh yeah, I've read the first one of those (with Judge Death and Scarecrow), it was pretty good.
― Tuomas, Wednesday, 23 May 2007 10:40 (seventeen years ago) link
that was Simon Bisley artwork, which was in my opinion simply breathtaking
― Ste, Wednesday, 23 May 2007 10:43 (seventeen years ago) link
So to summarize, Tuomas hates Batman.
― TOMBOT, Wednesday, 23 May 2007 14:18 (seventeen years ago) link
We already knew this, though.
― HI DERE, Wednesday, 23 May 2007 14:18 (seventeen years ago) link
You're not my intended audience.
― TOMBOT, Wednesday, 23 May 2007 14:19 (seventeen years ago) link
Leee I will fight you for I Love Comics ownership.
― jessie monster, Wednesday, 23 May 2007 14:25 (seventeen years ago) link
I checked "The Greatest Batman Stories Ever Told" out of the library recently, and despite an inevitable emphasis on one-issue stories, it has a lot of great material in it.
I really dig Matt Wagner's three-parter "Faces" from Legends of the Dark Knight. I think it got reprinted as a tpb. There was another one "Blades" from around the same time with art by Tim Sale and written by James Robinson that was also high quality. Dunno if you can still find that one, though.
Also, the recent "Mad Moon Rising" or whatever it was called thing by Wagner retelling the early Hugo Strange and Mad Monk stories is a lot of fun. Fact is, though, I'm just a Wagner fanboy, so take that as you will.
― Oilyrags, Wednesday, 23 May 2007 14:32 (seventeen years ago) link
Oh yeah! Also the first Grendel/Batman crossover, the one with Hunter Rose. The later one with Grendelprime kinda sucked.
― Oilyrags, Wednesday, 23 May 2007 14:35 (seventeen years ago) link
Now that I think of it, when it comes to superheroes I've always preferred bright-coloured cosmic fables to dark and edgy vigilante stuff, so I guess I do hate Batman.
― Tuomas, Wednesday, 23 May 2007 15:42 (seventeen years ago) link
good now get out
― s1ocki, Wednesday, 23 May 2007 16:44 (seventeen years ago) link
Bring it if you can, monster jessie.
xpost s1ocki otm.
― Leee, Wednesday, 23 May 2007 16:55 (seventeen years ago) link
slocki harsh but fair -- it's like Tuomas is wishing the sky wasn't blue.
― Rock Hardy, Wednesday, 23 May 2007 16:57 (seventeen years ago) link
tuomas would probably like the batman story in mike allred's solo tho.
― s1ocki, Wednesday, 23 May 2007 17:01 (seventeen years ago) link
yay Matt Wagner
― Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 23 May 2007 17:05 (seventeen years ago) link
If you can find them in the back issue bins, Pete Milligan's Batman one-issues are just as awesome as their titles suggest they might be ("The Executioner Wore Stiletto Heels" and "The Hungry Grass!"). Also, the Wagner/Grant run is bestest -- definitely more "funny dark" than "tortured dark."
― Chuck_Tatum, Wednesday, 23 May 2007 17:12 (seventeen years ago) link
i dunno guys tuomas is saying it in a really annoying way as usual but i think hes right that this is some bullshit dark re-imagineered david fincher joker instead of classic funny-yet-crazy joker - do yall also like this? http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/6/62/American_McGee_Alice_box.gif/256px-American_McGee_Alice_box.gif
― and what, Wednesday, 23 May 2007 17:13 (seventeen years ago) link
No one likes American McGee.
― HI DERE, Wednesday, 23 May 2007 17:15 (seventeen years ago) link
Also sci-fi closet Morrison? There were really only a couple of good issues though.
I like Year 100 but Tuomas wouldn't.
― Jordan, Wednesday, 23 May 2007 17:15 (seventeen years ago) link
I dunno, I thought the Nolan movie was quite light-hearted in places. It wasn't dark in a "grim 'n gritty" way.
― Chuck_Tatum, Wednesday, 23 May 2007 17:31 (seventeen years ago) link
classic funny-yet-crazy joker
"classic" is subject to debate, as this thread makes rather obvious. which interpretation a reader/viewer priveleges is entirely up to their own prejudices.
― Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 23 May 2007 17:31 (seventeen years ago) link
I dunno guys we have two photographs and a totally inconsistent narrative spanning nearly a century involving perhaps hundreds of authors, surely we can nail down the probable levels of genuine intent and fitting nuance mr ledger will bring to the role, and what the script will have in it.
― TOMBOT, Wednesday, 23 May 2007 17:35 (seventeen years ago) link
I predict Ledger dances a killer Batusi
― Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 23 May 2007 17:38 (seventeen years ago) link
I hope Ledger's Joker tries to out-do Bale's Batman in a contest of BONERS
― elmo argonaut, Wednesday, 23 May 2007 17:43 (seventeen years ago) link
definitely psyched about the prince song.
― s1ocki, Wednesday, 23 May 2007 17:48 (seventeen years ago) link