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https://twitter.com/#!/Scobleizer/status/76618122366431232

groovypanda, Monday, 6 June 2011 10:52 (thirteen years ago) link

Oops, wrong link (that one above was to the original Tweet)
http://www.macrumors.com/2011/06/03/more-claims-of-deep-twitter-integration-in-ios-5/

groovypanda, Monday, 6 June 2011 10:53 (thirteen years ago) link

Is it just me or is deep Twitter integration the most boring rumour ever?

It's not like we could go to Islam (Autumn Almanac), Monday, 6 June 2011 10:54 (thirteen years ago) link

i don't know, it sounds a bit erotic

40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Monday, 6 June 2011 11:06 (thirteen years ago) link

there have been more boring rumours, but that's up there. depressing if true.

caek, Monday, 6 June 2011 11:37 (thirteen years ago) link

i'm intrigued by the nonexistent concept of "deep Twitter"

40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Monday, 6 June 2011 11:41 (thirteen years ago) link

afaict (if true) it means you get an "Open in Twitter..." button above the "Open in iBooks..." one, plus those notifications with a birdy logo

It's not like we could go to Islam (Autumn Almanac), Monday, 6 June 2011 11:43 (thirteen years ago) link

etc

It's not like we could go to Islam (Autumn Almanac), Monday, 6 June 2011 11:43 (thirteen years ago) link

i'd prefer more Instapaper integration but to each giant technology company his own

40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Monday, 6 June 2011 11:44 (thirteen years ago) link

Gruber's noises about icloud being an itunes replacement is enticing if only because it would mean the death of fucking itunes

It's not like we could go to Islam (Autumn Almanac), Monday, 6 June 2011 11:46 (thirteen years ago) link

what are the rumours for icloud?

full cloud storage and streaming of music collection?

this you irl http://i.imgur.com/v3kw8.gif (cozen), Monday, 6 June 2011 11:54 (thirteen years ago) link

at least that

caek, Monday, 6 June 2011 11:58 (thirteen years ago) link

songs available in the iTunes store would NOT need to be uploaded to the cloud, but any songs in your collection that don't appear in the store WOULD need to be uploaded. i think. for me this is going to mean.. i dunno, a fuck of a lot of uploading. on a regular basis.

40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Monday, 6 June 2011 12:08 (thirteen years ago) link

cloud storage for computers makes sense but why would i want to stream songs to my iphone? wont that rack up data bills, kill battery life, wont be able to listen on subway, etc?

☂ (max), Monday, 6 June 2011 12:22 (thirteen years ago) link

i guess this is going to be optional for a few years yet

caek, Monday, 6 June 2011 12:35 (thirteen years ago) link

i think quite a lot of uk/euro people already stream their music to iphone via spotify and it seems to work for them?

caek, Monday, 6 June 2011 12:36 (thirteen years ago) link

^^^ does not OWN IPHONE

caek, Monday, 6 June 2011 12:36 (thirteen years ago) link

I do sometimes stream music through Spotify when out and about, but mainly I use it to listen to things that I have added to my Spotify library at home and selected for offline listening. So, they're cached on the phone (in some encrypted Ogg Vorbis format, I think).

Alba, Monday, 6 June 2011 12:42 (thirteen years ago) link

My wonder is when they say songs included in the store...does that include stuff you didn't purchase from iTunes but is in the store? It'd be easy to see them do what Amazon did and basically say "access to everything you purchased from us", but that's no fun. However, there would be a great reason to allow access to stuff you didn't buy. Let's say you ripped a CD, or even illegally downloaded the record. Apple sees it on your hard drive and let's you stream it from the cloud. Now suddenly the labels are getting a cut of the music they own via licensing the streaming rights from apple to you, which you're paying for in your fees to apple. All legit online radio stations are already paying fees to publishing companies. Now suddenly where you got the music is irrelevant, all that matters is that you're playing it and it's been logged.

Now I don't think that will happen, I think it's more likely iTunes will only recognize what you've officially purchased from iTunes, which will be a big pain for those of us with sizeable CD collections (or voracious illegal downloading habits), but it could work that way and it would be win-win for the record labels and apple.

I guess we'll know in a few hours.

dan selzer, Monday, 6 June 2011 13:19 (thirteen years ago) link

mp3.com (lol) tried to do what you suggested Dan, ie unlocking music to you that you proved you had the redbook hash to, but they got sued out of existence iirc

dayo, Monday, 6 June 2011 13:24 (thirteen years ago) link

does Spotify exist in the US yet? I just noticed the other day I am getting royalties from it from my album on CDbaby through digital distribution. Thusly do I hope SPotify is the new craze

Latham Green, Monday, 6 June 2011 13:29 (thirteen years ago) link

i expect they will start with only music you purchased via itunes being in the cloud. the legal/financial/contractual problems with throwing it open to other sources of music seem almost insurmountable, and given the long term trends in music buying, hardly worth bothering with.

caek, Monday, 6 June 2011 13:38 (thirteen years ago) link

its kind of obvious anyway that the ipod was always meant for pirated music. I mean, who would fill one with 30,000$ or purchased music - maybe there will soon be a pirate cloud too

Latham Green, Monday, 6 June 2011 13:47 (thirteen years ago) link

How will it cope with the hundreds of DJ mixes I (and many others) have?

groovypanda, Monday, 6 June 2011 14:34 (thirteen years ago) link

well theoretically anything that doesn't exist in the iTunes store you'd upload to the cloud, then it would be there for you

40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Monday, 6 June 2011 14:37 (thirteen years ago) link

but as has just been mentioned it's hard to see Apple letting people do that since their own servers would be in the business of hosting possibly illegally obtained material

40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Monday, 6 June 2011 14:37 (thirteen years ago) link

hosting possibly definitely illegally obtained material

dan selzer, Monday, 6 June 2011 14:45 (thirteen years ago) link

well, yes.

40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Monday, 6 June 2011 14:48 (thirteen years ago) link

just like the amazon cloud

Latham Green, Monday, 6 June 2011 15:03 (thirteen years ago) link

the rumor I'd seen was that it would do exactly what dan suggested, for the reasons dan suggested (letting labels get money from things that came from nefarious sources). but we'll see.

akm, Monday, 6 June 2011 15:16 (thirteen years ago) link

just make apple pay a 2$ pirate tax on their iphones, give that to ted turner and get on with the looting

Latham Green, Monday, 6 June 2011 15:23 (thirteen years ago) link

fuck an icloud i want a mecloud im starting my own cloud

ice cr?m, Monday, 6 June 2011 15:24 (thirteen years ago) link

i, cloudius

Once Were Moderators (DG), Monday, 6 June 2011 15:25 (thirteen years ago) link

hey You get off of my cloud

Latham Green, Monday, 6 June 2011 15:40 (thirteen years ago) link

ominous black banners! mysterious one more thing banners? such geeky fun.

dan selzer, Monday, 6 June 2011 16:39 (thirteen years ago) link

http://www.macrumorslive.com/ going full steam. Allegedly Mr. Jobs sounds a little tired/exasperated.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 6 June 2011 17:04 (thirteen years ago) link

Does a video stream exist anywhere?

what made my hamburger disappear (WmC), Monday, 6 June 2011 17:10 (thirteen years ago) link

Not that I've found.

I have to say I like this bit:

10:14 am Photo Booth can track your face now!
10:14 am "Targeted facial enhancements."
10:15 am Can actively make your eyes huge, for instance.
10:15 am This seems like a weird thing to spend time on at WWDC.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 6 June 2011 17:17 (thirteen years ago) link

"Let's take a look at Lion in action. First up... gestures." Ha, he's got Safari open... to a sex crime article on the BBC.

James Mitchell, Monday, 6 June 2011 17:19 (thirteen years ago) link

This seems nice:

10:20 am Next feature: Resume, instantly resume where you were in an application after you quit it.
10:21 am Even works system wide, when you reboot all of your windows and apps return how they were.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 6 June 2011 17:21 (thirteen years ago) link

Here's something key -- Lion only available on the Mac App Store, 4 GB in size, $29.99 in cost.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 6 June 2011 17:38 (thirteen years ago) link

Will be released in July.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 6 June 2011 17:38 (thirteen years ago) link

Sold, new mail looks good.

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Monday, 6 June 2011 17:39 (thirteen years ago) link

Yeah the Mail upgrade looked really nice from what I could tell.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 6 June 2011 17:42 (thirteen years ago) link

hopefully lion won't slow my year and half old macbook down to uselessness

akm, Monday, 6 June 2011 17:43 (thirteen years ago) link

My experience has that performance has stayed the same or got better release to release.

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Monday, 6 June 2011 17:44 (thirteen years ago) link

Into iOS weeds now, apparently the crowd loves the promise of improved push notifications.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 6 June 2011 17:45 (thirteen years ago) link

Finally, an integrated way to interact with the Twitter website via the pocket telephone.

James Mitchell, Monday, 6 June 2011 17:53 (thirteen years ago) link

Seems like they've reworked Safari to clone Instapaper.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 6 June 2011 17:55 (thirteen years ago) link

Also, tabbed browsing (at last).

Ned Raggett, Monday, 6 June 2011 17:57 (thirteen years ago) link


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