Has ILE become too pally?

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Kenan: quit being so hard on yourself, palzo.
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oops (Oops), Wednesday, 16 July 2003 21:30 (twenty years ago) link

More people = more posts.

More people meeting each other = more pally posts.

Also: when ILX started the core posters were a few Brits who mostly knew one another anyway and had a separate mailing list for banter and nonsense. Now the locus is a bigger group of New Yorkers who mostly met through ILX so it's natural ILX is the scene for a lot more social stuff.

Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Thursday, 17 July 2003 08:01 (twenty years ago) link

yea, totally! i can even remember when there were british people on ilx!

gareth (gareth), Thursday, 17 July 2003 08:04 (twenty years ago) link

I can too. They were bad times.

Tim (Tim), Thursday, 17 July 2003 08:10 (twenty years ago) link

Also, there aren't just more New Yorkers on, there are less Londoners too. More than there were a month or two ago, but less than a year ago.

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Thursday, 17 July 2003 08:41 (twenty years ago) link

I don't think there are any fewer Londoners than there ever were, it's just they are posting less and the NYC ilx0rs are posting more regularly. I have no doubt the pendulum will swing back the other way eventually. Or in a different direction - Toronto ILX could suddenly become huge.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Thursday, 17 July 2003 09:04 (twenty years ago) link

That would be nice, except for banter about Kraft Dinner.

Larcole (Nicole), Thursday, 17 July 2003 11:25 (twenty years ago) link

I'm posting quite a bit. South London in the house!

it bugs me that some people seem to be on ilx exclusively to make flirtatious three-word posts and flatter themselves

Yeah, this bugs me quite a lot. There are people who can be absolutely *guaranteed* to follow posts by certain other people with nudge-nudge flirtation and private jokes, and sometimes it's fine, sometimes it's irritating. Mostly I just think it would be better kept off-board, as it's a bit showy-off, kinda territorial and just a bit icky.

Anyway, I'm a touchy fuckx0r, so this may just be me (and amateurist, if I can speak for him, as I suspect he wasn't being sarcastic), but... there you go.

Mark C (Mark C), Thursday, 17 July 2003 11:35 (twenty years ago) link

mark you forgot 'played'

Josh (Josh), Thursday, 17 July 2003 20:31 (twenty years ago) link

I have no doubt the pendulum will swing back the other way eventually. Or in a different direction

Ormskirk ILX - And You Will Know Us By The Trail Of The Bickering

Matt (Matt), Friday, 18 July 2003 00:02 (twenty years ago) link

Eventually DC/NoVA/MD ILX will take over all yr asses

Millar (Millar), Friday, 18 July 2003 00:10 (twenty years ago) link

Josh, why do I never understand you?

Mark C (Mark C), Friday, 18 July 2003 14:35 (twenty years ago) link

i remember when gareth was british!

Mary (Mary), Friday, 18 July 2003 21:33 (twenty years ago) link

i love ile. i especially like it when the palliness overcomes geographical barriers. if there are threads i don't read - and there are lots of em, it doesn't bother me because (this may shock and stun you all) i don't own the board. dan perry is ace. so is ally.

di smith (lucylurex), Saturday, 19 July 2003 01:28 (twenty years ago) link

I'm sure people will take this the wrong way, but I tend to balk at effusions of emotion and sympathy and love from posters to people they've never even met (so obviously this does not apply to the lot of you who *have* met). It seems to me to trivialize those sentiments.

So if I sometimes seem crotchety, it's largely for this reason.

amateurist (amateurist), Saturday, 19 July 2003 04:10 (twenty years ago) link

I think I may have just put my foot in my mouth.

amateurist (amateurist), Saturday, 19 July 2003 04:12 (twenty years ago) link

"foot"

"mouth"

amateurist (amateurist), Saturday, 19 July 2003 04:13 (twenty years ago) link

amateurist, i simply adore you.

di smith (lucylurex), Saturday, 19 July 2003 04:16 (twenty years ago) link

why do you have to have physically met someone in order to show genuine sympathy towards them?

oops (Oops), Saturday, 19 July 2003 04:18 (twenty years ago) link

The key word is "effusions."

amateurist (amateurist), Saturday, 19 July 2003 04:20 (twenty years ago) link

So you're saying emotions can only be genuine if they're shown sparingly?

oops (Oops), Saturday, 19 July 2003 04:25 (twenty years ago) link

amateurist, i love you more than life itself.

di smith (lucylurex), Saturday, 19 July 2003 04:27 (twenty years ago) link

did i mention that you're really great and you should move to new zealand right now?

di smith (lucylurex), Saturday, 19 July 2003 04:27 (twenty years ago) link

amateurist why do you even hang around ile then?

jess (dubplatestyle), Saturday, 19 July 2003 04:48 (twenty years ago) link

Because that sort of thing represents only a tiny fraction of what gets posted!

Incidentally Jess I didn't have you in mind as one of the people who seems unnaturally effusive and enthusiastic.

amateurist (amateurist), Saturday, 19 July 2003 05:06 (twenty years ago) link

Don't I have the right to be bothered by certain qualities evidenced in some ILE posts, without abandoning the board altogether? Certainly you have voiced your problems with certain threads/posts/posters before, Jess.

amateurist (amateurist), Saturday, 19 July 2003 05:06 (twenty years ago) link

I'm not trying to censure anyone. I just thought I would be honest in responding to this thread's central question.

amateurist (amateurist), Saturday, 19 July 2003 05:07 (twenty years ago) link

So you'd like it better if everyone remained detached and interacted w/one another solely on an intellectual level? You're such a stereotypical man!

oops (Oops), Saturday, 19 July 2003 05:16 (twenty years ago) link

(gathers flintstones)

amateurist (amateurist), Saturday, 19 July 2003 05:16 (twenty years ago) link

Amateurist, I know exactly what you mean and I'm sure lots of other people feel the same way. Look how many don't post those kind of huggles posts.

N. (nickdastoor), Saturday, 19 July 2003 11:40 (twenty years ago) link

amt speaks for 'us' N.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Saturday, 19 July 2003 11:57 (twenty years ago) link

We are the silent majority and our voice will not be heard.

N. (nickdastoor), Saturday, 19 July 2003 11:58 (twenty years ago) link

Sociopaths are the new meme.

Larcole (Nicole), Saturday, 19 July 2003 11:59 (twenty years ago) link

i don't think it's any secret, when there's at least 10 of them almost guaranteed per certain type of thread they do lose their meaning. it's like a signal response sometimes, motion censor almost.

Ronan (Ronan), Saturday, 19 July 2003 12:00 (twenty years ago) link

haha on font 'Cochin' in italics the 'h' in heard looks like a 'b'.

Cozen (Cozen), Saturday, 19 July 2003 12:06 (twenty years ago) link

the 'posts that made you laugh out loud' threads may be the apex of annoying pallyness for many people here then. personally (and seeing it was I who started that whole thing) I enjoy them a lot, even tho much of the time the comments posted are not that funny out of their correct context - but still interesting to read for me. I also notice certain posters have embraced those threads and dominate them both as quoters and quotees. I can see this annoying other people for reasons ranging from jealousy to genuine belief it is un-necessary (especially as those threads are huge and slow down some people) but their volume and regularity would seem to indicate they are appreciated by the majority of people on this board, despite the fact certain individuals (like, the funniest people on ILE) do dominate the threads.

stevem (blueski), Saturday, 19 July 2003 12:08 (twenty years ago) link

additionally, I was attracted to ILE for two reasons - 1) to engage in discussion and argument about all kinds of subjects large or small with a broad range of people, just as you would ideally do face to face with people in life and 2) to actually make some more friends, or pals if you will, who are like-minded in certain ways....therefore the nature of my posts is fairly well balanced between these two motives.

stevem (blueski), Saturday, 19 July 2003 12:10 (twenty years ago) link

It doesn't indicate that they're enjoyed by the majority of people on the board at all! You said yourself that they are dominated by certain posters as quoters as well as quotees.

I have an ambivalent attitude to those threads. I rarely laugh at what's posted there, partly because it's about context (threads are always funnier if one sees them as they build anyway - there's a strange element of timing, despite the message board format) and partly just cause people have crappy senses of humour. Yet, I can't stop myself pasting stuff there from time to time. It's a weird compulsion. And I always read it in the hope of an ego boost.

I do find it hard to believe that people are sticking to the 'laugh out loud' criterion most of the time.

N. (nickdastoor), Saturday, 19 July 2003 12:17 (twenty years ago) link

I don't know if it's just me but I seldom laugh out loud at anything, and not because I'm miserable either, I just think "that's funny". The thread is a kind of ego boost thing I guess, I've never pasted anything on it I don't think, I just would be too lazy I suppose. I don't know why people do either, I guess there is something personal being said by what you paste yourself.

Ronan (Ronan), Saturday, 19 July 2003 12:24 (twenty years ago) link

The thread is a kind of ego boost thing I guess, I've never pasted anything on it I don't think, I just would be too lazy I suppose. I don't know why people do either, I guess there is something personal being said by what you paste yourself.

For me, it's just because I have read something I think is pretty funny. There is no connection to me and I'm not trying to boost anyone's ego. No evil Machia-pally-ian scheme behind it at all.

Larcole (Nicole), Saturday, 19 July 2003 12:27 (twenty years ago) link

i find myself laughing out loud quite often when i read full threads. that is something i'm grateful to ilx for. it might take some time to get the injokes and know each poster's sense of humour, but i definitely love the conversational side of this board, and hence the jokes (even the bad ones!).

joan vich (joan vich), Saturday, 19 July 2003 13:10 (twenty years ago) link

the existence of the Jokes You've Already Seen Anyway If You've Been Reading The Board threads isn't making all the other threads any funnier. on the other hand it surely isn't making them any less funny.

thom west (thom w), Saturday, 19 July 2003 13:49 (twenty years ago) link

but you can't read ALL the threads, can you?
sometimes you find funny bits on the 'posts that made you laugh...' threads.

joan vich (joan vich), Saturday, 19 July 2003 14:01 (twenty years ago) link

I think I may be one of the ones who can seem effusive in affection and sympathy to others, to some people. Some of the time I am sympathising with someone I know to varying degrees (I posted something sympathetic an hour or so back to someone I've regarded as among my dearest friends for over twenty years!), and sometimes it's to someone I've never met. But I choose my words pretty carefully, and don't say things I don't mean. I was posting some very fond words to someone I've never met earlier, but they are entirely meant and sincerely felt - it's someone who, through ILX, emails and IM I feel is a friend, and I feel very fond of her and she is going through a rotten time. I realise some people will think it odd to form attachments to people you've not met, but I see nothing wrong with it - and it has happened to me, however I theorise about it.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Saturday, 19 July 2003 14:06 (twenty years ago) link

It doesn't indicate that they're enjoyed by the majority of people on the board at all!

maybe not but then they are HUGE threads, and while some do dominate there is still a wide range of people both quoting and being quoted on there - and nobody has really complained about it (because they'll just get accused of hating fun).

the 'laugh out loud' threads i dunno - you either like that sort of thing or you dont- i guess i love it. i didnt want it to be just about backslapping, ego-stroking cliqueyness, but i dont really see the harm in that anyway if thats what people want to do. i suppose some people approach a thread like that and they wont laugh at anything on there because often people will not laugh at something when they've been forewarned that its absolutely hilarious.

stevem (blueski), Saturday, 19 July 2003 14:28 (twenty years ago) link

I only get on the funny thread when I'm not trying to be funny, stop laughing at me!

jel -- (jel), Saturday, 19 July 2003 14:42 (twenty years ago) link

HA-ha

JuliaA (j_bdules), Saturday, 19 July 2003 14:46 (twenty years ago) link

It seems to me to trivialize those sentiments.

it seems that way to me, too, but then I have to sit back and realize that these other people ARE NOT ME, and have v. different emotional lives and may mean exactly what they say when they do that effusive ILXor love thing.

I have serious issues with strong emotions and other people probably don't. That's my problem, not theirs. I know exactly where Amateurist is coming from but at the same time I like to think I know where the other side is coming from as well

(obv I do not, to be honest)

Millar (Millar), Saturday, 19 July 2003 14:51 (twenty years ago) link

Somehow my Nelson closing tag didn't show.

In terms of people being supportive and that seeming trivial...there may be some insincerity on these boards, but it seems that very many of these sentiments are real. Especially with the more prolific posters, you get to know people a bit from their posts, and become fond of some of them. And it sucks to see anyone hurt.

JuliaA (j_bdules), Saturday, 19 July 2003 14:57 (twenty years ago) link

the honesty and sincerity surprises me a lot at times. an example being someone feeling the need to post about how they're feeling relating to something quite deep and personal...and receiving all the right comments in return, from people they know and from people they don't know so well at all. you could be cynical about all that but i think there's a genuine sense of love and concern around which is re-assuring. revealing so much about yourself on a public msg board as cathartic exercise is obviously not for everybody tho.

stevem (blueski), Saturday, 19 July 2003 15:08 (twenty years ago) link


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