― Papa Lazarou, Tuesday, 1 November 2005 14:47 (eighteen years ago) link
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 14:48 (eighteen years ago) link
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― Tuomas (Tuomas), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 14:49 (eighteen years ago) link
― _, Tuesday, 1 November 2005 14:50 (eighteen years ago) link
― _, Tuesday, 1 November 2005 14:51 (eighteen years ago) link
the fact that you even find these comparible is lamentable. the kids were dressing up as a character they (presumably) admire. a guy at Optimo this weekend was dressed up as Don King - his costume was hysterical.
― jed_ (jed), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 14:53 (eighteen years ago) link
― Tuomas (Tuomas), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 14:54 (eighteen years ago) link
― _, Tuesday, 1 November 2005 14:55 (eighteen years ago) link
― Andy_K (Andy_K), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 14:55 (eighteen years ago) link
― _, Tuesday, 1 November 2005 14:57 (eighteen years ago) link
http://kotisivu.dnainternet.net/houtsone/lakupekka.jpg
(x-post)
― Tuomas (Tuomas), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 14:58 (eighteen years ago) link
xpost ahahhahahahahahha
― _, Tuesday, 1 November 2005 15:00 (eighteen years ago) link
― Tuomas (Tuomas), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 15:01 (eighteen years ago) link
― Dan (Surrounded By White Madness) Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 15:01 (eighteen years ago) link
― Dan (The Point Remains) Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 15:01 (eighteen years ago) link
― Tuomas (Tuomas), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 15:02 (eighteen years ago) link
― _, Tuesday, 1 November 2005 15:02 (eighteen years ago) link
― _, Tuesday, 1 November 2005 15:03 (eighteen years ago) link
xp
dan doesn't seem to agree with you!
― jed_ (jed), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 15:03 (eighteen years ago) link
― _, Tuesday, 1 November 2005 15:04 (eighteen years ago) link
― _, Tuesday, 1 November 2005 15:05 (eighteen years ago) link
No, I meant literally dated....as, to the best of my knowledge, they don't make them (the actual lawn ornaments) anymore.....though drive around Long Island and you'll still spot a few, not to mention in midtown Manhattan.....
http://orient-express.lbwa.verio.net/onyc/images/220images/onyc_220_entrance.jpg
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 15:05 (eighteen years ago) link
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 15:06 (eighteen years ago) link
― Andy_K (Andy_K), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 15:07 (eighteen years ago) link
No, probably not. Since most of our ethnic minorities have been here for thirty years or less, I assume American culture is far more sensitive to racial imagery as related to, say, Asian or African people. We do have seem older ethnic groups such as the Sami and the Roma people, but they obviously don't show up at all in American culture.
― Tuomas (Tuomas), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 15:08 (eighteen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 15:09 (eighteen years ago) link
― _, Tuesday, 1 November 2005 15:10 (eighteen years ago) link
i don't know if he does but, if so, it does call into question your use of the phrase "De Facto".
― jed_ (jed), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 15:10 (eighteen years ago) link
― _, Tuesday, 1 November 2005 15:11 (eighteen years ago) link
― Andy_K (Andy_K), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 15:11 (eighteen years ago) link
Blackface is de facto offensive. My issue is this: should a child dressed up as Ben Wallace for Halloween be considered blackface? Exactly what does that say about how you view people like Ben Wallace that that was your first reaction to seeing the child? In my mind, this is the racist liberal issue rearing its ugly head again.
― Dan (Excruciating Back Pain) Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 15:11 (eighteen years ago) link
dan i think the point is that blackface is de facto offensive -- _ (...), November 1st, 2005.
which i agree is debateable but i think most americans would agree -- _ (...), November 1st, 2005.
― _, Tuesday, 1 November 2005 15:12 (eighteen years ago) link
Er, I'd argue that in the kid's mind it isn't.
― Tuomas (Tuomas), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 15:12 (eighteen years ago) link
― _, Tuesday, 1 November 2005 15:13 (eighteen years ago) link
― _, Tuesday, 1 November 2005 15:14 (eighteen years ago) link
― _, Tuesday, 1 November 2005 15:15 (eighteen years ago) link
Yes, I think that that entire line of thought is incredibly dehumanising to black people because the point SHOULD be that we are all people and therefore should get treated the same. There shouldn't be anything special or taboo about a child wanting to dress up as a highly visible and incredibly popular basketball player. Basically, by blanket-calling every single instance where someone wears makeup darker than their skin tone "blackface", you are helping to peretuate the racial divide in this country.
Finally, don't fucking tell me what I should find offensive, white boy.
― Dan (Don't Try That Shit With Me) Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 15:18 (eighteen years ago) link
― Theorry Henry (Enrique), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 15:19 (eighteen years ago) link
― ken c (ken c), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 15:19 (eighteen years ago) link
― Andy_K (Andy_K), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 15:20 (eighteen years ago) link
And would it be offensive for a girl to dress up like a man?
face-ah.
xposts. Dan, Ken, OTM
― when something smacks of something (dave225.3), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 15:20 (eighteen years ago) link
― Dan (Excruciating Back Pain) Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 15:21 (eighteen years ago) link
― _, Tuesday, 1 November 2005 15:22 (eighteen years ago) link
(xxxx-post)
― Tuomas (Tuomas), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 15:22 (eighteen years ago) link
― _, Tuesday, 1 November 2005 15:23 (eighteen years ago) link
You know, I've been at ballparks where these are given away to all kinds of people...
― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 15:26 (eighteen years ago) link
in which actual context is this not offensive?
― Theorry Henry (Enrique), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 15:26 (eighteen years ago) link
and she was japanese, rather than chinese :((((
also i was crawling out of a "sony" brand TV which is a japanese TV manufacturer when i really should have done with say "Konka" brand, just so that i don't appear to have stereotyped Japan with the Sony brand when actualy it just happened to be a famous TV brand used to signify my cardboard box to be a TV. :((((((((((((((
i was a racist dick :(
― ken c (ken c), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 15:28 (eighteen years ago) link
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/ac/Musical_notes.svg/30px-Musical_notes.svg.png It's the most wonderful time of the year...http://www.angelfire.com/in/sassyshideout/images/SongListAniMusicNotesR.gif
http://i.imgur.com/EG0JZOJ.jpg
http://www.fox10tv.com/story/30349647/decatur-teacher-apologizes-for-wearing-black-face
― pplains, Wednesday, 28 October 2015 02:35 (eight years ago) link
Honestly, I'm just about as offended that she thinks she's pulling off Kim Kardashian.
― pplains, Wednesday, 28 October 2015 03:38 (eight years ago) link
Took me a second. They're dressed as hieroglyphics, not the Egyptians themselves...
http://i.imgur.com/s1OtdMZ.jpg
... but boy are they walking the line there.
― pplains, Friday, 5 February 2016 22:35 (eight years ago) link
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― pplains, Sunday, 3 April 2016 01:15 (eight years ago) link
i've been watching all in the family episode by episode from season 5 forward and hoo boy, some of the places this show goes are pure wtf and a good heads up as to how the culture has shifted over the past forty years... the key joke in the "Gloria has a baby" two parter is that Archie leaves his lodge's minstrel show in blackface to get to the hospital. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMlpCLPCtx4
― ulysses, Monday, 4 April 2016 14:37 (eight years ago) link
NB the series of rape jokes at 5.40
― ulysses, Monday, 4 April 2016 14:39 (eight years ago) link
Usually days like today are prime for mining horrible examples of white trick-or-treaters in blackface. However, it's just gotten worse and more depressing in the past year.
I know, "When was it not depressing?" I guess you'd hope things would improve with each passing year, not break records for how low the bar keeps getting dropped.
Recently read a good thread on social media from an ILXor, listing some of the worst recent incidents. And it's not just the tastelessness that hits you, it's how brazen and open these assholes are about pulling it off these days. It's almost as if they feel emboldened to do so.
That said, I enjoyed these fellas. Hope the guy on the right didn't get confused with being a white guy wearing a dreadlock wig though I personally would've appreciated the meta on that one.
https://i.imgur.com/BmjljUp.jpg
― pplains, Saturday, 4 November 2017 18:44 (six years ago) link
djp has a roundup of this year's examples on fb
― mookieproof, Saturday, 4 November 2017 18:55 (six years ago) link
^ Yeah. That ILXor.
― pplains, Saturday, 4 November 2017 19:13 (six years ago) link
That picture created so much reverse racism whining.
― the Hannah Montana of the Korean War (DJP), Saturday, 4 November 2017 21:36 (six years ago) link
reverse racism whining
thereby confirming the whiner's steadfast and unshakeable belief that whites in blackface are racists. amirite?
― A is for (Aimless), Saturday, 4 November 2017 21:40 (six years ago) link
lol at khakis
― Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Sunday, 5 November 2017 19:28 (six years ago) link
American politicians go blackface.
But not Canadians: https://time.com/5680759/justin-trudeau-brownface-photo/
― pplains, Thursday, 19 September 2019 02:21 (five years ago) link
What the fuck is wrong with all these people?
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 19 September 2019 02:45 (five years ago) link
Milkshake Trudeau is Racist.
― a bevy of supermodels, musicians and Lena Dunham (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 19 September 2019 03:51 (five years ago) link
I can’t believe he did it so many times! And he was 29!! Shameful.
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Thursday, 19 September 2019 14:01 (five years ago) link
https://www.vulture.com/2020/06/blackface-tv-episodes-scenes-removed-streaming.html
― brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 30 June 2020 23:20 (four years ago) link
NBC was a big fan of blackface gags
― Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Tuesday, 30 June 2020 23:27 (four years ago) link
They were also the network that played The Apprentice. Something not right been up with them for awhile.
― pplains, Wednesday, 1 July 2020 00:34 (four years ago) link
Countdown to the discovery of long-missing The Apprentice: Blackface Challenge tapes...
― "...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 1 July 2020 02:10 (four years ago) link
Whole network is rotten from the Today show hosts to the late night wars. Who woulda thunk a broadcasting company owned by G.E. would be so awful.
Oh, they're owned by Comcast now. yes, yes, such an improvement.
Anyway. Halloween this year is going to be horrible. I am looking forward to the McCloskey costumes though.
― pplains, Wednesday, 1 July 2020 02:23 (four years ago) link
Er, I've just seen the Bananarama video for "I Want You Back" (with the woman who replaced Siobhan Fahey who no-one remembers)...
― Maggot Bairn (Tom D.), Sunday, 16 April 2023 09:32 (one year ago) link
Beginning of Culture Club's Do You Really Want To Hurt Me video is another one.
― the world is your octopus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Sunday, 16 April 2023 09:40 (one year ago) link
with the woman who replaced Siobhan Fahey who no-one remembers
some of us will always remember the Shillelagh Sisters
― he thinks it's chinese money (soref), Sunday, 16 April 2023 09:58 (one year ago) link