Anticipating Treme aka "Tremé" - David Simon and his buddies do post-Katrina N.O.

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little dieter wants to FUCK (Princess TamTam), Saturday, 18 June 2011 17:08 (thirteen years ago) link

It's a interesting mess. I like the ambition but it really does a great job of highlighting the things that Simon isn't good at.

polyphonic, Saturday, 18 June 2011 17:10 (thirteen years ago) link

otm. The characters, framing, and development are substandard. The key scene (spoiler perhaps): an exchange late in the season between the struggling restauranteur and a rival chef. On "The Wire" the directors would have conveyed the agony of this woman acknowledging defeat and the rival's ambivalence: he won the game but feels bad for his competitor/pal. Here's it's thrown away with boilerplate and blank reaction shots.

Also, the didactic bilge that Simon saved until the last season of "The Wire" spills forth from John Goodman and a couple of other characters every chance. Nothing sticks.

The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 18 June 2011 17:12 (thirteen years ago) link

It's like someone imitating David Simon.

The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 18 June 2011 17:12 (thirteen years ago) link

if Simon was channeling his true self through a cranky suicidal YouTube vlogger that's a pretty good self-deprecating joke though

some dude, Saturday, 18 June 2011 17:14 (thirteen years ago) link

Even better: through a bratty overconfident teenaged girl.

polyphonic, Saturday, 18 June 2011 17:15 (thirteen years ago) link

it broke my damn heart because everything d. simon has done since the wire has been one big raspberry blown in the direction of my admiration.

not saying the guy should stick to cops and robbers, but the guy should stick to.cops and robbers. actually, treme just points up how crucial the whole group of creatives he assembled was important to the wire. i've got a feeling ed burns acted as a major bullshit detector, having now seen d.s. off the leash with treme.

strongo hulkington's ghost dad, Saturday, 18 June 2011 17:19 (thirteen years ago) link

that is majorly garbled, but i'm gonna blame editing posts on my phone.

strongo hulkington's ghost dad, Saturday, 18 June 2011 17:20 (thirteen years ago) link

generation kill seemed alright, although i don't think i'll ever revisit it

some dude, Saturday, 18 June 2011 17:20 (thirteen years ago) link

haha i bailed on gen kill early because i figured we werent going to get a tragic heart-rending death/reversal to counteract ziggy's basic annoyance factor.

strongo hulkington's ghost dad, Saturday, 18 June 2011 17:23 (thirteen years ago) link

I grew to really love ziggy's character on gen kill fwiw

polyphonic, Saturday, 18 June 2011 17:24 (thirteen years ago) link

generation kill is kinda my favorite thing hes done tbh

little dieter wants to FUCK (Princess TamTam), Saturday, 18 June 2011 17:25 (thirteen years ago) link

also i realize wendell pierce is now stuck in hbo rep players hell but if there was ever a chance to give a REAL star turn this was it, but instead we get this didactic altman-for-idiots ensemble stuff. boooooo.

strongo hulkington's ghost dad, Saturday, 18 June 2011 17:26 (thirteen years ago) link

though i suppose other wire players have had far worse post wire careers

strongo hulkington's ghost dad, Saturday, 18 June 2011 17:27 (thirteen years ago) link

there was a scene somewhere in the middle of Season 1 where a character comments to Clarke Peters that there are probably a bunch of dead bodies in the boarded up housing projects, and I felt almost heartbroken.

sarahel, Saturday, 18 June 2011 17:28 (thirteen years ago) link

also: fuck Elvis Costello.

The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 18 June 2011 17:28 (thirteen years ago) link

generation kill was great

caek, Saturday, 18 June 2011 17:33 (thirteen years ago) link

more i think about it this really is like if stanely kramer had directed "nashville" instead of altman

strongo hulkington's ghost dad, Saturday, 18 June 2011 17:34 (thirteen years ago) link

it's also irritating that Clarke Peters gets to only have like two different facial expressions

sarahel, Saturday, 18 June 2011 17:36 (thirteen years ago) link

it's hard not to imagine lester freamon looking down his granny glasses and giving a little derisive head-shake

strongo hulkington's ghost dad, Saturday, 18 June 2011 17:38 (thirteen years ago) link

generation kill was great

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little dieter wants to FUCK (Princess TamTam), Saturday, 18 June 2011 17:41 (thirteen years ago) link

i always call this show "tres gay" in my head

little dieter wants to FUCK (Princess TamTam), Saturday, 18 June 2011 17:45 (thirteen years ago) link

more i think about it this really is like if stanely kramer had directed "nashville" instead of altman

i gave up on this show early, but until someone can convincingly contradict this estimation, i'm not coming back

da croupier, Saturday, 18 June 2011 19:17 (thirteen years ago) link

ha i don't even like nashville but jess is kind of otm

by another name (amateurist), Sunday, 19 June 2011 00:39 (thirteen years ago) link

amateurist's opening salvo otm. this is an embarrassment.

je suis marxiste - tendence Groucho (will), Sunday, 19 June 2011 01:07 (thirteen years ago) link

i haven't seen the new season yet, but treme makes me happy and amateurist is the bummerest of all bummers.

j., Sunday, 19 June 2011 03:56 (thirteen years ago) link

:-(

by another name (amateurist), Sunday, 19 June 2011 06:33 (thirteen years ago) link

Really loving this show.

Gukbe, Tuesday, 28 June 2011 06:18 (twelve years ago) link

The show put a smile on my face during one of the scenes in David Chang's restaurant where they played 'Uptown Top Ranking.'

righteousmaelstrom, Tuesday, 28 June 2011 14:46 (twelve years ago) link

the kitchen scenes are becoming my favorite part of this show

Aerosol, Wednesday, 29 June 2011 15:01 (twelve years ago) link

It seemed inevitable at the beginning of the season that within 4 or 5 episodes they would bring her back down to New Orleans. I really respect that they've run with the NYC thing like this.

Gukbe, Wednesday, 29 June 2011 15:18 (twelve years ago) link

three weeks pass...

nah, this show really sucks. i'm getting off the bus.

by another name (amateurist), Friday, 22 July 2011 03:02 (twelve years ago) link

says the only guy left on the bus, to noone in particular

drowning cool (some dude), Friday, 22 July 2011 03:50 (twelve years ago) link

I'm on the bus. I'm lovin' the ride.

Gukbe, Friday, 22 July 2011 03:52 (twelve years ago) link

one year passes...

Slept on this show for ages, but went through all the episodes over the last few weeks. Sure, it's not perfect, but it has a lot of charms.

Chewshabadoo, Monday, 10 September 2012 17:23 (eleven years ago) link

New season starts Sunday. HBO has already picked it up for a shortened fourth and final season.

Legendary General Cypher Raige (Gukbe), Sunday, 23 September 2012 03:37 (eleven years ago) link

have not seen in some time, would like to, still resent amateurist for his life mission of raining on things

j., Sunday, 23 September 2012 18:47 (eleven years ago) link

http://www.nola.com/treme-hbo/index.ssf/2012/09/hbos_treme_renewed_for_a_fourt.html

HBO's 'Treme' renewed for a fourth and final season

“Treme” drew an average of 2.2 million cumulative weekly viewers in its second season, far below HBO blockbusters like “True Blood,” “Game of Thrones” and “Boardwalk Empire,” but HBO programming executives had expressed admiration for the show’s execution and importance. Steeped in New Orleans music, cuisine and recovery-related social and political issues, the post-Katrina drama was honored with a Peabody Award in April.

Simon said the past week was spent securing the participating of all the series’ main cast members, a complicated contractual task given the shorter season.

“To a person, they all came back,” Simon said. “We’re happy for a chance to finish the story on our own terms.”

curmudgeon, Monday, 24 September 2012 17:27 (eleven years ago) link

What I've seen is flawed, but I most certainly agree that it has its charms

curmudgeon, Monday, 24 September 2012 17:29 (eleven years ago) link

The show can be quite preachy/corny at times, but then there'll be an episode or a scene that is so damned good that it merits the whole exercise.

pun lovin criminal (polyphonic), Monday, 24 September 2012 17:56 (eleven years ago) link

i'm glad people are getting paid but the show's whole "oh yo trombone shorty what's up nothin kid just eatin a lucky dog in front of preservation hall with my boy steve earle we fixin to go get some gumbo ya ya down the bayou wit ya mom n dem" vibe is pretty lol. not everything is all new orleans all the time!

adam, Monday, 24 September 2012 18:59 (eleven years ago) link

tho they shot a scene with eyehategod which is a step in the right direction, has that episode aired yet?

adam, Monday, 24 September 2012 19:00 (eleven years ago) link

hahah eyehategod, for real?! they didn't show up this premiere no

even when this show is being totally aimless, there's just something amiable about it that i can't help but be charmed by

fadanuf4erybody, Tuesday, 25 September 2012 04:50 (eleven years ago) link

one year passes...

Shame to see the show end, I enjoyed its meandering charms.

Chewshabadoo, Thursday, 2 January 2014 17:25 (ten years ago) link

i stopped watching out of indifference midway through the 3rd season. should i go ahead and finish it?

ol' Wrink P's thinkpiece (some dude), Thursday, 2 January 2014 22:50 (ten years ago) link

just started watching season 3, it's pleasantly boring. mostly i pause it a lot to tell my girlfriend some story about run-ins with the musicians or places in the show (and being reminded of those stories is the main appeal for me, that and the novelty of seeing brass band dudes acting).

festival culture (Jordan), Thursday, 2 January 2014 23:25 (ten years ago) link

i'm just waiting until i can afford the damn thing, but maybe i can just stream it online by this point and catch up

j., Friday, 3 January 2014 01:15 (ten years ago) link

s3 was the ebst season, it comes together at the end very nicely.

Simon H., Friday, 3 January 2014 15:20 (ten years ago) link

the indian practice in season 3 ep 4 had the juice, it's those little moments that make me glad they did the show. shannon powell's musical cameo was nice to see too. it's even worth sitting through all of the scenes of the violin player's dumb band.

festival culture (Jordan), Tuesday, 7 January 2014 22:10 (ten years ago) link


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