Gruber seems to be right about things a lot of the time, though that's easy when the people he disagrees with are prone to willfully ignoring the fact that Apple is making hundreds of millions of dollars doing what it's doing and is preposterously unlikely to make any sudden changes in strategy. Also less of a raging, belligerent asshole than you might expect.
― T.S. Eliot-themed roach fetish porn (silby), Sunday, 19 June 2011 03:49 (thirteen years ago) link
Also wrt the "buy whole cell phone industry" post that is sort of following up on an earlier link about how Apple could easily have enough cash in a few years to take itself private. That is, in an industry where firms are frequently assessed by their market cap or their VC funding or what have you, Apple actually has HUMONGOUS FAT STACKS OF CASH.
― T.S. Eliot-themed roach fetish porn (silby), Sunday, 19 June 2011 03:52 (thirteen years ago) link
agreed that this guy is a bit of a dick, he has unsavory triumphalist tendencies, and thinks various middlebrow stuff is the height of human achievement - however as to his core competency, i do believe hes one of the best writers on design out there today
― ice cr?m, Sunday, 19 June 2011 03:58 (thirteen years ago) link
Chock full of SEO crap: My comment on Marco Arment's comment on John Gruber's comment on David Pogue's comment on Google's Chromebook.
― James Mitchell, Sunday, 19 June 2011 08:29 (thirteen years ago) link
Has anyone read the marco aren't Phish post?
― licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Sunday, 19 June 2011 09:34 (thirteen years ago) link
Damn autocorrect: Arment
― licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Sunday, 19 June 2011 09:35 (thirteen years ago) link
however as to his core competency, i do believe hes one of the best writers on design out there today
he doesn't really do this any more though?
― caek, Sunday, 19 June 2011 10:18 (thirteen years ago) link
Got sick of his blog a while ago - but I have to admit his comment on the Chromebook is kinda on point, why does it deserve a "good try!" sentiment?
― Nhex, Sunday, 19 June 2011 14:30 (thirteen years ago) link
Gruber's predictions that don't come true are still reasonable and make sense when you evaluate the facts available at the time. He can't rely on his mysterious inside sources all the time, you see.
You don't have to believe me, just ask Gruber. He's always Gruber. I mean, right.
― mh, Sunday, 19 June 2011 14:52 (thirteen years ago) link
― caek, Sunday, June 19, 2011 6:18 AM (4 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
yeah its not most of his posts, but when he does write a long piece i feel like he really gets where design is at re todays technologies
― ice cr?m, Sunday, 19 June 2011 14:55 (thirteen years ago) link
also hes a v good clear writer
― ice cr?m, Sunday, 19 June 2011 14:56 (thirteen years ago) link
chrisdejabet Chris De Jabet by daringfireballJust got complimented on my @daringfireball shirt at the Apple Store. Because I'm handsome.18 hours ago
*stabs twitter in the face*
― ice cr?m, Sunday, 19 June 2011 15:42 (thirteen years ago) link
thought it was really out of line when this guy shot mr takagi
― little dieter wants to FUCK (Princess TamTam), Sunday, 19 June 2011 15:50 (thirteen years ago) link
i really like gruber
which mac writers do you guys really like? i could use some more feeds in my google reader
― markers, Tuesday, 21 June 2011 18:46 (thirteen years ago) link
Jean-Louis Gassee
― lukas, Tuesday, 21 June 2011 18:54 (thirteen years ago) link
totally forgot abt him, thanking u
― markers, Tuesday, 21 June 2011 19:21 (thirteen years ago) link
feel like this post embodies many of his less good qualities
http://grab.by/cBWF
― ice cr?m, Tuesday, 21 June 2011 21:02 (thirteen years ago) link
how long till some shill links him this thread and ilx gets ~fireballed~
― summer is coming (cozen), Tuesday, 21 June 2011 21:04 (thirteen years ago) link
one can dream
― ice cr?m, Tuesday, 21 June 2011 21:05 (thirteen years ago) link
You are trying to view American McCarver on a shitty browser. Won't work.
― James Mitchell, Tuesday, 28 June 2011 12:37 (twelve years ago) link
Note that the UI screenshots are even set in Helvetica, not Arial. Some of the best evidence of good taste at Google I can ever recall.
duly noted.
http://daringfireball.net/linked/2011/06/28/google-plus-videos
― joe, Tuesday, 28 June 2011 20:51 (twelve years ago) link
guh arial and helvetica are like exactly the same shit stfu already
― ice cr?m, Tuesday, 28 June 2011 20:54 (twelve years ago) link
A friend shared this blog post on Google Reader: http://stu.mp/2011/06/dear-yahoo-hire-me-as-your-next-ceo.html
I’d buy the NYT (for a mere $1.5bn!) and recruit John Gruber to be Editor in Chief of the “Yahoo! News” division.
I cried a little.
― mh, Tuesday, 28 June 2011 21:04 (twelve years ago) link
Oh god, until I read that blog post in full I thought that was a joke, like forcing him to cover stories about Microsoft.
― James Mitchell, Wednesday, 29 June 2011 20:40 (twelve years ago) link
Cringely's been half-nuts for years. Now I think he's full-nuts.
― James Mitchell, Thursday, 30 June 2011 09:24 (twelve years ago) link
well, he's got a point
― caek, Thursday, 30 June 2011 09:26 (twelve years ago) link
I guess it's not as bad as how he keeps referring to Paul Thurrott as a 'dick' purely because he writes about Microsoft.
― James Mitchell, Thursday, 30 June 2011 09:36 (twelve years ago) link
cringelys nutsness is the best part of his shtick, guy is not afraid to think big
― ice cr?m, Thursday, 30 June 2011 15:37 (twelve years ago) link
I don't think Cringely's being nuts there! Even if Jobs is showing pictures of full server rooms, it's not like he's shown pictures of the entire interior of the facility, and it's completely possible that it's not that densely populated.
― mh, Thursday, 30 June 2011 15:38 (twelve years ago) link
yeah but thats not some weird conspiracy designed to intimidate rivals, its just building out future capacity
― ice cr?m, Thursday, 30 June 2011 15:43 (twelve years ago) link
p sure this dood killed caylee http://horace.dediu.usesthis.com
― ice cr?m, Thursday, 7 July 2011 03:51 (twelve years ago) link
http://daringfireball.net/linked/2010/05/11/cameronasshole
asshole
http://daringfireball.net/linked/2011/07/08/murdoch
"congratulations to the tories"
― joe, Friday, 8 July 2011 20:18 (twelve years ago) link
wish someone would put this asshole in a room w/paul thurrott and then they can mutually annihilate each other
― Once Were Moderators (DG), Friday, 8 July 2011 20:22 (twelve years ago) link
maybe i've just been developing for legacy browsers too long at this point, but this kills me. laziest shit ever - you run a SPORTS BLOG ffs
― unique housing opportunity (swanbed.gif) (govern yourself accordingly), Friday, 8 July 2011 20:29 (twelve years ago) link
actually i think i hate sub-gruber wannabe sycophant ux doods even worse than gruber proper - so much hot air about making software "empathetic," so much whining about not getting paid to be a thought leader, so much referring to "marco" by the mononym...
― unique housing opportunity (swanbed.gif) (govern yourself accordingly), Friday, 8 July 2011 20:33 (twelve years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/e7obs.png
― laughing stalk (diamonddave85), Friday, 8 July 2011 22:39 (twelve years ago) link
Read a blog post about grids. Saw a movie about Helvetica. Short. Terse. Sentences.
― laughing stalk (diamonddave85), Friday, 8 July 2011 22:41 (twelve years ago) link
TS: john gruber vs lieutenant gruber from 'allo 'allo
― Once Were Moderators (DG), Friday, 8 July 2011 22:42 (twelve years ago) link
RAGE!
― laughing stalk (diamonddave85), Friday, 8 July 2011 22:47 (twelve years ago) link
oops already posted X:
it cannot be mocked too often. the star was a nice touch.
― joe, Friday, 8 July 2011 22:49 (twelve years ago) link
I listened to some of his most recent podcasts during the week and was astounded by his and Dan Benjamin's claim that it gets 800,000 downloads an episode.
Err, what? Maybe it was some kind of belated rip on The Daily's iPad app but I think they were being serious. There's no way it's true, though.
― James Mitchell, Saturday, 9 July 2011 08:36 (twelve years ago) link
i think it's more like 400,000, but i could be wrong
800,000 was either the WWDC or post-WWDC download count iirc, but again, i could be wrong
― markers, Saturday, 9 July 2011 08:39 (twelve years ago) link
It's like his amazing high trafficked and revolutionary new sports website, which is actually a fucking tumble blog about baseball where you click on the notes to find less than half a dozen people 'liked' each post and fuck-all anybody reblogged anything, because why the fuck would you.
I'd rather read David Beckham's views on fonts an touch interfaces.
― James Mitchell, Saturday, 9 July 2011 08:41 (twelve years ago) link
are you kidding i'd TOTALLY read david beckham's views on fonts and touch interfaces
― unique housing opportunity (swanbed.gif) (govern yourself accordingly), Saturday, 9 July 2011 14:02 (twelve years ago) link
Dean Martin’s recipe for hamburgers. Sounds perfect. ★
nice commentary.
― laughing stalk (diamonddave85), Tuesday, 12 July 2011 02:32 (twelve years ago) link
Sounds like... salted meat and a glass of bourbon
― mh, Tuesday, 12 July 2011 02:42 (twelve years ago) link
http://six.pairlist.net/pipermail/markdown-discuss/2008-March/001163.html
-J.G.
― ILX Point Never (diamonddave85), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 03:37 (twelve years ago) link
I give it a C-. Not up to the high standards of open source assholery established by the likes of Linus Torvalds. Canonical example http://lwn.net/Articles/249460/
― T.S. Eliot-themed roach fetish porn (silby), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 03:47 (twelve years ago) link
Yes, in August, Apple is going to start selling Lion on USB sticks. But I think most of us really will be able to get by without them. That’s why the USB stick installers are going to cost $69, a $40 markup over the App Store download. Apple wants us to go download-only.
― James Mitchell, Thursday, 21 July 2011 08:44 (twelve years ago) link
A lot of folks were damaged when Steve Jobs called developers "artists." Some are worse off than others.
― Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 9 September 2021 20:44 (two years ago) link
“Chairman Pooh”
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 27 April 2022 03:39 (two years ago) link
thought it was really out of line when this guy shot mr takagi― little dieter wants to FUCK (Princess TamTam), Sunday, June 19, 2011 11:50 AM (ten years ago) bookmarkflaglink
― little dieter wants to FUCK (Princess TamTam), Sunday, June 19, 2011 11:50 AM (ten years ago) bookmarkflaglink
I think about this joke and laugh every time I see this thread revived
― Piven After Midnight (The Yellow Kid), Wednesday, 27 April 2022 04:30 (two years ago) link
loaded it up today for the first time in a while and the latest post was some asinine shit about how much Arial makes his eyes bleed. this guy is probably a terf
― G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Friday, 4 November 2022 23:49 (one year ago) link
hes really mad that apple has ads now but he can’t say that so he quotes everyone else saying and then trails off poignantly rip apple
― stet, Saturday, 5 November 2022 00:27 (one year ago) link
that's pretty rich for someone whose CSS specifies Verdana first:
body { font-family: Verdana, system-ui, Helvetica, sans-serif;}
― diamonddave85 (diamonddave85), Saturday, 5 November 2022 01:17 (one year ago) link
going to hack his blog and change the default font to webdings
― mh, Saturday, 5 November 2022 01:58 (one year ago) link
“congratulations to the tories”
― Allen (etaeoe), Saturday, 5 November 2022 02:11 (one year ago) link
Does he ever claim chowder himself?
https://daringfireball.net/linked/2022/10/27/musk-twitter-open-letter
― sofatruck, Friday, 16 December 2022 04:24 (one year ago) link
Apparently I’m a very slow learner on the “Elon Musk is an absolute shithead” front
― G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Friday, 16 December 2022 06:29 (one year ago) link
congrats to the tories
― mh, Friday, 16 December 2022 14:34 (one year ago) link
https://daringfireball.net/linked/2023/02/02/twitter-killing-botsCongrats to lagoon
― stet, Friday, 3 February 2023 02:04 (one year ago) link
cant believe im still only 15 feels like ive been posting to this site that long
― lag∞n, Friday, 3 February 2023 02:08 (one year ago) link
I’m more optimistic about Twitter’s future than I have been in years.
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 3 February 2023 02:41 (one year ago) link
Amen brother!
https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/katienotopoulos/twitter-bot-api-changes-killing-fun
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Saturday, 4 February 2023 00:45 (one year ago) link
cant believe i made it to daring fireball its a dream
― lag∞n, Saturday, 4 February 2023 01:03 (one year ago) link
"Fuck Elon, I never liked that guy" - in awe of this
― ꙮ (map), Saturday, 4 February 2023 02:29 (one year ago) link
"They say there are no atheists in a foxhole, but there are more of them than there are libertarians in a bank run."
okay it's very clunky but full credit here
― official representative of Roku's Basketshit in at least one alternate u (lukas), Monday, 13 March 2023 19:22 (one year ago) link
https://mastodon.social/@gruber/110667962169426329
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Saturday, 8 July 2023 03:57 (eleven months ago) link
We gonna need Threads/Mastodon embeds now i guess?
― Nhex, Saturday, 8 July 2023 04:03 (eleven months ago) link
congratulation etc
classic john "gatekeeper is my favorite feature of mountain lion" gruber
― butch wig (diamonddave85), Saturday, 8 July 2023 04:16 (eleven months ago) link
I’m more optimistic about Twitter’s future than I have been in years. Don’t get me wrong, I think there’s a very real chance that under Musk’s leadership, Twitter might break apart and fade into irrelevance. But Musk himself notes the same thing! Keeping Twitter open to a wide range of content, but making it easy to control what content you see, as user, is a worthy ideal. Pulling it off, that’s the trick. But as a privately-held company Musk is free to make changes that move Twitter away from being optimized for engagement and towards being optimized for enjoyment.
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Saturday, 8 July 2023 04:21 (eleven months ago) link
October 2022.
He’s now on a tear about the evil EU daring to try and regulate the best product of the year, Threads
― stet, Saturday, 8 July 2023 09:31 (eleven months ago) link
It’s interesting that Threads has entirely leapfrogged the “cool place to chat with chums” phase of its social network existence and gone straight into the “bad office party” phase
― Tracer Hand, Saturday, 8 July 2023 15:53 (eleven months ago) link
everyones there brands influencers blue checks linkdin guys
― lag∞n, Saturday, 8 July 2023 15:57 (eleven months ago) link
kinda funny how blue check in facebook world still means verified
― lag∞n, Saturday, 8 July 2023 15:58 (eleven months ago) link
i’m no longer complaining about twitter’s “for you” tab after seeing threads so they’ve accomplished that
― mh, Saturday, 8 July 2023 16:56 (eleven months ago) link
“Twitter with the TikTok algorithm” is a good description of threads I saw somewhere.
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Saturday, 8 July 2023 17:03 (eleven months ago) link
i said that in the twitter thread, but in a more artful way
― lag∞n, Saturday, 8 July 2023 17:10 (eleven months ago) link
He’s still got it
― Allen (etaeoe), Saturday, 8 July 2023 17:33 (eleven months ago) link
TikTok has far fewer brands and celebrities.
Low-hanging fruit, but this review of a $100 box cutter is a masterpiece of the form.https://daringfireball.net/linked/2023/09/05/studio-neat-keen
― bamboohouses, Wednesday, 6 September 2023 09:36 (nine months ago) link