tipping

Guys don't be startled by that noise it is probably just the scales falling from my eyes

keep going horseshoe you'll make the excelsior thread one day

yeah horseshoe

keep going

i will say this tho: visigoths are surprisingly great tippers

Except when you make excelsior, frogbs, it's usually the setup...

Third worst tippers - high school kids in large groups.

― bill magill (milo z), Monday, June 20, 2011 3:50 PM (31 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

truth bomb, but cut out the "third"

I SHOULD TAKE YOU OUT BY MY FENCE SO YOU WOULD SEE WHAT A GOOD POST LOOKS LIKE

Okay lol

Why are all the popcorn gifs of black people?

― chupacabra - a delicious burrito (DJP), Monday, June 20, 2011 4:18 PM Bookmark

Black people love popcorn. Can't believe you've never heard this.

There's even an article about it on the Internet.

best tippers have got to be those who are deployed overseas - that's definitely one group of people who don't mind blowing a bunch of money very quickly

are you now inventing good tippers to provide new thread content?

Ok I'm just speaking from anecdotal recent evidence but I have heard that generally the worst tippers are cunts who win $50 on slots, but I am not sure if that is officially a race I guess

where is horseshoe, i want her to keep going

that's basically what I was getting at all along but whatever keep pushing the race issue so you guys can get some more weak burns in

wait did I miss a post here where I was just posting anecdotal evidence

superfluous ecdot

Your progression was:

what races are the worst tippers -> yes I meant are black people bad tippers -> I really just wanted to know if it was a stereotype

The dodging is actually a lot worse than asking "Is there a stereotype that black people tip poorly?" Then again, you know that asking anything racially charged while being you is kind of a bad plan....

tbf he started with a moronically coy, guess which race is in my pocket? post

SURPRISE IT'S BLACK PEOPLE

is that a toy or not

"If you can guess which race I'm thinking of ... then which one of us is *really* the racist? Think abt it."

WHICH RACE IS THE WORST TIPPERS

keep trying horseshoe, not good enough for excelsior yet

maybe someday youll be at frogbs level

I think it's a bit late to put "the whole thing" down to "a self-perpetuating cycle". Subjects don't "self-perpetuate", people make sure they they keep making the rounds and here it is you, sir, that is keeping the wheels in motion. xp

there's a world outside of ILX you know

― frogbs, maandag 20 juni 2011 23:24 (10 minutes ago) Bookmark

Ok, listen up jokeboy: You are continuously - with a faux air of choir-boy naivety - aiming for confirmation of a certain idea you have. That black people tip less than white people. Iatee and others have already pointed out how ludicrous and racist both your notion, and the way you go about it, is. Yet you keep falling back on a "guys seriously, I am just wondering about this. Could it be true? There's websites mentioning it too!" stance. If you've not already concluded that what you are just wondering about, it means you are willingly continuing to push the stereotype, to keep this racist myth alive. To which I can only reply: fuck you.

cartmanesque tbf

Your progression was:

what races are the worst tippers -> yes I meant are black people bad tippers -> I really just wanted to know if it was a stereotype

The dodging is actually a lot worse than asking "Is there a stereotype that black people tip poorly?" Then again, you know that asking anything racially charged while being you is kind of a bad plan....

What, in your opinion, am I dodging? I've worked as a bartender and I've never noticed it and don't really have a reason to be racist. Yes I have heard people bring that up straight up and would have posted it that way if people here weren't so super sensitive about pretty much any type of race issue.

Basically I'm wondering which races/demographics you guys think tip the best and the worst

Best = humans, worst = marmosets

Anyway, ime, worst tippers are tables w/a bunch of messy kids, followed by tables w/lots of ppl who split checks.

did modestmickey used to be a bartender? i'm getting a Let's contribute to jaymc.xls by listing everything/body that ILX has determined is racist kind of vibe

would have posted it that way if people here weren't so super sensitive about pretty much any type of race issue.

pro tip: then don't post about any type of race issue

Ok, listen up jokeboy: You are continuously - with a faux air of choir-boy naivety - aiming for confirmation of a certain idea you have. That black people tip less than white people. Iatee and others have already pointed out how ludicrous and racist both your notion, and the way you go about it, is. Yet you keep falling back on a "guys seriously, I am just wondering about this. Could it be true? There's websites mentioning it too!" stance. If you've not already concluded that what you are just wondering about, it means you are willingly continuing to push the stereotype, to keep this racist myth alive. To which I can only reply: fuck you.

first of all, wtf is this thing I'm 'continually' doing. i haven't concluded shit and if it was a racist myth there wouldn't be an NPR article about it

okay, let me seriously ask here, what do you guys think my motive is here? like what reason would I have to perpetuate some myth?

first of all, wtf is this thing I'm 'continually' doing. i haven't concluded shit and if it was a racist myth there wouldn't be an NPR article about it

― frogbs, maandag 20 juni 2011 23:49 (35 seconds ago) Bookmark

Yeah because if things aren't true there wouldn't be people talking about it on the internet, right? Oh wait...

Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

On to the next thread

xp so is your conclusion that NPR got bad data? that they're racially motivated?

if it was a racist myth there wouldn't be an NPR article about it

http://www.latenightwithjimmyfallon.com/assets_c/2010/11/Boss_Thumbs_Up_gif-thumb-350x197-15764.gif

Yeah, well, NPR doesn't hire black people.

that's why it loves reviewing shit like Wilco

okay, let me seriously ask here, what do you guys think my motive is here? like what reason would I have to perpetuate some myth?

― frogbs, maandag 20 juni 2011 23:50 (45 seconds ago) Bookmark

Your motive seems to be gathering support for your racist preconceptions. But why the fuck ask us what your motives are?!

Guys have I turned myself into troll-bait here?

oh i see you didn't read my posts then

What, in your opinion, am I dodging?

The fact that you are trying to turn it into a discussion about black people not tipping?

If you wanted to know if it was a stereotype, you could have asked that or even gone to google. It's not that you even really have racist intentions on this one, it's just that you left your material that would make the question sound neutral until the end: "I've only had experience as a bartender and black people tend to tip as well as anyone else, but at a party some server friends told me that there's a stereotype of black people tipping poorly."

IMO that sounds like a reasonable query, approaches race from the individual perspective standpoint, and doesn't dodge around. Instead it went from you being afraid to say the phrase "black people" into "hey black people tipped me well for drinks!"

So the way you're coming off is that you want affirmation of this belief, or you're just so clumsy when talking about race that it sounds that way

i was basically not trying to let this fall into "confirmation bias" as in if no one knew what the fuck I was talking about then I could assume the whole thing wasn't really anything. btw I didn't really say that i've been tipped well by black people but rather that I don't think or wouldn't guess that it's an issue of cheapness because that really does fall into some stupid racist bullshit which I was trying to steer the thread away from

honestly, I have no idea, that's why I brought it up because it's kind of a weird thing. in my experience as a bartender they aren't exactly cheap people and I'm not sure if there are cultural issues or what they could be

― frogbs

So the way you're coming off is that you want affirmation of this belief

I don't really want affirmation of anything - tipping culture in general is pretty interesting to me, ultimately I tried to phrase things so that I didn't seem like I was racist but I'm not really good with that and given ILX's tendencies to make everything look worse than it really is I probably should have known better

frogbs, have you served black people as a bartender? How did they tip?

mh - i wasn't referring to the tip there, what I mean here - and this is something that a lot of servers would probably back me up on - is that I don't think the issue of "cheapness" (which I'm assuming a lot of you are trying to make this thread about?) really defines how much a person tips. we're talking about places where people willingly pay $8 for a $1 dessert or $5 for a pint of beer that they know costs less than a buck - if people really wanted to be cheap they probably wouldn't go to restaurants or bars very often

I think you're confusing living cheaply versus being a cheap bastard.

btw yeah I have served black people and they generally tipped alright unless the bill was really big, in which case you wouldn't get 10-15% but you'd get enough to make it worth your while, nothing I would have thought of before it was mentioned to me.

in general the idea of tipping 15% on bills that are big because of shots or other 'low-maitenance' items is really stupid anyway