American Beauty - I'm a fucking dumbass

i don't remember the american beauty parody at all.

its very brief - basically one of the characters in the second story arc shoots a film about the beauty of a plastic bag in the wind etc

clever

the plastic bag scene

big boobs in the window

that's about it

todd soldonz is a piece of shit

it made chris cooper a star, that's cool

^^ tru i guess maybe in that way it contributed to making the bourne movies cool, so props for that

oh man i totally forgot dude was in this... <3 <3 <3 chris cooper

never understood why people are so eager to hate on solondz

remember when wesley whats his face was supposed to be the next joaquin phoenix?

because he made movies after happiness

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hhahaha yeah he was in ghost rider

and... P2!

and some western about a mining town that nobody saw

and a costume drama with kate hudson and heath ledger (rip) that i did see. it sucked.

oh man he sucked in P2

and some western about a mining town that nobody saw

Lone Star! You should definitely see it, it's one of the best American films of the 90's.

lone star is a movie with chris cooper, about a border town. not a mining town, with wes bentley

and some western about a mining town that nobody saw

the claim, which is dope

u all should see it

the claim, dir. michael winterbottom

xp

Lone Star is terrible!

i assume you mean the film and not the beer or There Will Be Blows

shakey what in fuck is wrong with you

wes bentley is a big junkie.

the claim was good

lets talk about it instead of this dumb movie

wes bentley is a big junkie.

sad!

Maybe someone mentioned this above, but the scene with the wife smashing her fists against her temple or the wall (or something like that, can't recall for sure), after she wasn't able to sell the house she was showing -- while repeating "STUPID, STUPID, STUPID" -- was chilling cinema. The rest, meh.

The Claim looks good.

I almost threw up during the scene in which Annette Bening collapses atop her pile of beautiful clothes upon learning of Kevin Spacey's death.

you have to watch the claim on a nice big screen, too. it helps to be stoned. just really beautiful and glacially paced. reminds me a little bit of mccabe and ms miller? and actually, deadwood too come to think of it.

I don't really know why people hate this film, but then I haven't seen it in over 5 or 6 years so I might not like it now. I don't understand why people don't like Amelie though - what's not to like? It's good fun. Romanticised, yes, but that's sort of the point isn't it?

Actually yeh, that plastic bag scene was very dumb in retrospect. I must have watched AB when I was a naiive 18yo and didn't really find it so yucky.

max i'm sold

the plastic bag scene in american beauty isn't dumb, it's the only scene that ISN'T dumb, you're watching a plastic bag perform at a high level like an athlete, it's like watching ski jumping in the olympics is dumb...i never saw a bag do that before and i'm glad i did.

yeah tracer--when i say deadwood and mccabe and ms. miller i mean more in terms of the grit and grime and the fucking magnificent setting than in the sensibilities of either more. its probably not as well-written as either of those two, but its the kind of movie that wins or loses on its cinematography (and it wins, i think).

The only good thing that ever happened in Family Guy is a scene of God yelling at that kid, "I created everything in nature and in outer space, and that PLASTIC BAG is the most beautiful thing in the world? What is your PROBLEM?"

rong. blue harvest is pretty awesome.

i remember repping for american beauty when i first saw it, but i haven't seen it since. don't really feel inclined to, either

i can't tell if m@tt is being serious or not

waht the hell: http://imdb.com/title/tt0218378/trailers-screenplay-E14774-310

yeah dude. that doesnt remind you of deadwood?

american beauty isn't as good as its reviews or as bad as its rep. there'll be some kind of rediscovery at some point where people decide it was significant somehow. i don't trust my opinion on it at all because i saw it with a woman who loved it and at the time i was hitting on her so i liked it too. (the kind of disclaimer that should really be on movie reviews.) i don't remember having a strong reaction to it either way. it seemed of its moment.

i do remember being charmed by the plastic bag. reminded me of the red balloon.

(btw that relationship didn't end well.)

you got married?

j/k

i don't trust my opinion on it at all because i saw it with a woman who loved it and at the time i was hitting on her so i liked it too. (the kind of disclaimer that should really be on movie reviews.)

^

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S2y0WebFULM

It's a good enough film. Not epochal, but certainly enjoyable to watch, if you are not the kind of person who hates things.

Most of what I liked about AB were the scenes with him first having his whole rediscovery thing after he quits is job. I would have liked this movie a LOT better if it had ditched the convenient blackmail thing and just been about a dude quitting his job, getting dumped by his wife, etc.

When I first saw this I liked it, but the whole repressed gay neighbor thing really left a bad taste in my mouth. It seemed so tacked on, and to have so little to do with what I thought was the main theme of the movie. I still like the music and the vaguely surreal atmosphere. The scene where he smokes the pot with the unibrow caterer was my favorite.

The bag scene was good because it's a total stoner scene. I never watched it stoned, but I bet if I did I would totally get into that scene and the expression on my face would probably be just like the one Bentley wore throughout the movie.

also I saw Magnolia a few weeks later. Another movie I loved at the time and despise now.