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Jagger's formation is pretty simple, it starts off as a basic Christmas tree except instead of an out-and-out striker and a left back you sacrifice both for two men playing behind a striker, who isn't actually there. This gives more space upfront for the central midfield to run into. If you go more than (minutes of game left)/20 goals down, you just get the rightback to cross over into the left midfield position, so you have covered force on the left that you've sacrificed for your support men, and you get the goalie to act as a kind of erstatz centrocampista, except only within his box.

Dom Passantino, Friday, 23 November 2007 09:51 (sixteen years ago) link

So who's operating the cappucino machine?

Mark G, Friday, 23 November 2007 09:52 (sixteen years ago) link

In fact, a year ago, I was saying this over on the Scottish football thread:

This has resulted in a slide down the world ranking as a result of not qualifying for any tournaments and by sliding down the rankings we fall down into lower-ranked seeding pots for qualifiers and then we get more good teams in our groups which means we get beaten more, don't qualify, fall further down the rankings, etc etc, vicious circle, blah blah.
I'm not sure how this is going to get better in this hellish qualifying group

xpost to myself

ailsa, Friday, 23 November 2007 09:52 (sixteen years ago) link

Grout, you're not paying attention, the formation is the capuccino machine

That mong guy that's shit, Friday, 23 November 2007 09:54 (sixteen years ago) link

and Beckham is the choc sprinkles, applied right at the end.

I get it now.

Mark G, Friday, 23 November 2007 09:56 (sixteen years ago) link

They are now in the group of second seeds and could possibly face Italy, France or Germany in a potentially hazardous qualifying group.

About fucking time

Tom D., Friday, 23 November 2007 09:58 (sixteen years ago) link

"ersatz centrocampista" pretty summarises the state of the English game at the moment, tbh

That mong guy that's shit, Friday, 23 November 2007 10:00 (sixteen years ago) link

http://youtube.com/watch?v=4W-tX_Bjbo0

ailsa, Friday, 23 November 2007 10:03 (sixteen years ago) link

Capello 7/2
O'Neill 4/1
Mourinho 15/2
Redknapp 14/1
Shearer 16/1
Scolari 20/1
Lippi 20/1
Hiddink 25/1
Coppell 25/1
Peace 25/1
Klinsmann 33/1
Pardew 40/1
Morten Olsen 50/1
Hughes 50/1
Ancelotti 50/1

Dom Passantino, Friday, 23 November 2007 10:06 (sixteen years ago) link

Morten Olsen = the guy from A-Ha?

Tom D., Friday, 23 November 2007 10:07 (sixteen years ago) link

Rafa for England would be a pretty good call I think, he's got a good track record of making average players play about themselves and knows how to win knock-out tournaments.

The downside is that his teams take about six games to get going at the start of every campaign which is kind of disastrous in international football.

Matt DC, Friday, 23 November 2007 10:18 (sixteen years ago) link

Also, hopefully Rafa would bring the glamorous, sexy, high-scoring brand of football that's made Liverpool so popular amongst neutrals to the England team.

Dom Passantino, Friday, 23 November 2007 10:20 (sixteen years ago) link

Can we have a sarcasm indicator? I'm losing it here. Something like an (S) would be nice.

Mark G, Friday, 23 November 2007 10:22 (sixteen years ago) link

Also, hopefully Rafa would bring the glamorous, sexy, high-scoring brand of football that's made Liverpool so popular amongst neutrals to the England team.

You certainly won't be getting anything glamorous, sexy or high-scoring from O'Neill or Mourinho.

Tom D., Friday, 23 November 2007 10:24 (sixteen years ago) link

They're both good looking guys, O'Neill could do with more hair though.

Dom Passantino, Friday, 23 November 2007 10:26 (sixteen years ago) link

That's what managing Bobby Petta does to a man.

onimo, Friday, 23 November 2007 10:30 (sixteen years ago) link

About time Steve Guppy added to that one England cap

Tom D., Friday, 23 November 2007 10:32 (sixteen years ago) link

<i>Peace 25/1 </i>

I am frankly amazed that Didcot Town manager Stuart Peace is in the running.

Grandpont Genie, Friday, 23 November 2007 10:38 (sixteen years ago) link

Hey Dave B (The Boyler), I emailed you via this thread, just in case you don't check your ILX connected email account!

Ronan, Friday, 23 November 2007 10:40 (sixteen years ago) link

The ELO football ratings still has Scotland as far down as #33. One place behind Ireland!

Jeff Lyne in anti-Scotland shockah

Nasty, Brutish & Short, Friday, 23 November 2007 11:12 (sixteen years ago) link

Don't Bring Me Down, Jeff

Tom D., Friday, 23 November 2007 11:15 (sixteen years ago) link

Don't Bring Me Down, Brian.

(Damn, his name wasn't Bruce Barwick, what the hell, used it anyway)

Mark G, Friday, 23 November 2007 11:26 (sixteen years ago) link

The FA should either

a) Run a Football Manager 2008 competition for the job; or

b) Hand over team selection and tactics to a bunch of Internet nerds with 50 quid each to burn

Noodle Vague, Friday, 23 November 2007 11:43 (sixteen years ago) link

b) Hand over team selection and tactics to a bunch of Internet nerds with 50 quid each to burn

ILX?

Tom D., Friday, 23 November 2007 11:45 (sixteen years ago) link

I'm so happy it's Friday and payday I just skipped right into that one.

Noodle Vague, Friday, 23 November 2007 11:46 (sixteen years ago) link

ILXors who should manage England as a committee:

Pipecock
Nude Spock
Ian Riese Morraine
Kate the Saint
ithappens

Dom Passantino, Friday, 23 November 2007 11:46 (sixteen years ago) link

I wd bet cash money that they would achieve more than MacLaren.

Noodle Vague, Friday, 23 November 2007 11:48 (sixteen years ago) link

they should make the England job the prize for winning fantasy premier league this year

ken c, Friday, 23 November 2007 11:48 (sixteen years ago) link

Kate the Saint

oh that'd work! she'd abolish the team completely and make the players form bands instead.

Grandpont Genie, Friday, 23 November 2007 11:49 (sixteen years ago) link

They should give the job away with a DVD covermount of Trevor Brooking's Tactics for Dummies in the Mail on Sunday.

Noodle Vague, Friday, 23 November 2007 11:50 (sixteen years ago) link

Apt as England appeared to be fielding a back four consisting of showroom dummies on Wednesday

Tom D., Friday, 23 November 2007 11:51 (sixteen years ago) link

I will still defend Joleon.

Noodle Vague, Friday, 23 November 2007 11:52 (sixteen years ago) link

oh that'd work! she'd abolish the team completely and make the players form bands instead.

-- Grandpont Genie, Friday, 23 November 2007 11:49 (4 minutes ago) Link

One of the players would claim that two of his team mates had died in the Munich Air Crash, he'd put on a testimonial match for them...

Dom Passantino, Friday, 23 November 2007 11:54 (sixteen years ago) link

^
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ken c, Friday, 23 November 2007 11:56 (sixteen years ago) link

Ian R-M would be castigated for his dogged persistence in putting his mum in goal.

Matt DC, Friday, 23 November 2007 12:00 (sixteen years ago) link

I will still defend Joleon.

That's apparently more than he can manage, fangyewfolksyouvebeenawunnerfulaudience

Tom D., Friday, 23 November 2007 12:01 (sixteen years ago) link

Penis Error Sank Sorry England

instead of singing 'Mila kuda si planina' ('You know my dear how we love your mountains'), he instead sang 'Mila kura si planina', which translates as 'My dear, my penis is a mountain'.

onimo, Friday, 23 November 2007 13:41 (sixteen years ago) link

There's a great picture of a Croatian mascot smirking at that.

Matt DC, Friday, 23 November 2007 13:42 (sixteen years ago) link

I wondered why those kids were grinning. I assumed they were English kids in Croatia tops and they'd found Lampard's sweet stash before the game.

Noodle Vague, Friday, 23 November 2007 13:45 (sixteen years ago) link

I read "sweet stash" in a Cheech & Chong sorta voice there before I saw "Lampard"

DJ Mencap, Friday, 23 November 2007 14:04 (sixteen years ago) link

OH NO O'NEILL DOESN'T WANT THE ENGLAND JOB THIS IS TERRIBLE

That mong guy that's shit, Friday, 23 November 2007 14:05 (sixteen years ago) link

Our royal family on hearing the news:

http://www.englishmonarchs.co.uk/images/windsor/princes_fune.jpg

Dom Passantino, Friday, 23 November 2007 14:06 (sixteen years ago) link

"DOES ANYBODY WANT THE ENGLAND JOB?" IS THE 2000s FOOTBALLING EQUIVALENT OF "DID ANYBODY EVER SEE THAT MOVIE TRON?" AND HARRY REDKNAPP IS PROBABLY CHIEF WIGGUM

That mong guy that's shit, Friday, 23 November 2007 14:07 (sixteen years ago) link

HARRY REDKNAPP HAS SEEN TRON

That mong guy that's shit, Friday, 23 November 2007 14:08 (sixteen years ago) link

Mourinho doesn't want it either. Don't think Capello will get it. Put a coupla nicker dahn on 'Awwy, alwight?

Tom D., Friday, 23 November 2007 14:09 (sixteen years ago) link

DEFAULT: TWO SWEETEST WORDS IN VEH FACKIN ENGLISH LANGUAGE

That mong guy that's shit, Friday, 23 November 2007 14:10 (sixteen years ago) link

As in "it was all de fault of that Steve McClaren"?

ailsa, Friday, 23 November 2007 14:11 (sixteen years ago) link

I was gonna say what with 'Awwy being a little bit waaaaaaaaayy and a little bit woooooooooh, the FA might be wary of giving him the job but I forgot the gave Venables the job once

Tom D., Friday, 23 November 2007 14:13 (sixteen years ago) link

If, within six months of 'arry becoming England boss, there's not at least four guys from Sierra Leone who've suddenly discovered an English grandmother in the squad, I'll be shocked.

Dom Passantino, Friday, 23 November 2007 14:14 (sixteen years ago) link

Redknapp won't talk to the Beeb, can you have an England manager who refuses to talk to the BBC? Or will Joe Jordan be still doing it for him?

Tom D., Friday, 23 November 2007 14:16 (sixteen years ago) link


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