A thread for JUSTIFIED, a TV show on FX starring Timothy Olyphant

lol now i'm just mad at you again

aylon wears the cowboy hat because he hated his life and wanted to build a new one

and because it fits iirc

ireland, the most cosmopolitan country in the world

mm

and because it fits iirc

― where ilxor ends and markers begins (history mayne), Wednesday, June 29, 2011 7:54 PM (11 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

well yeah exactly, raylon doesnt understand himself at all and tries to pretend things have no meaning is one of the themes of the show

but to everyone else his motivations are blindingly obvious. which is why he didnt want to go back to kentucky

well he sure fucked that one up. when is he gonna go back to florida?

now he kinda likes it is the thing, a journey of self discovery

would be funny if next season was all abt him being a shooting instructor tho

i would watch that show, tbh

i think i lack critical distance from this show because of the long, loving shots of tim olyphant

i am pretty sure it rules, though

it TOTALLY rules. LG is crazy.

Also re the whole 'formula' argument: Mad Men is just a formulaic as Justified. Mad Men is an uber-stylish soap opera! It's SO soapy it's ridiculous. I love Mad Men, don't get me wrong. But it's as formulaic a soap opera as Justified is a cop show.

imo mad men is def subtler/orignialer/better than justified but like its better than most shows so thats really not damning - and as i said upthread justfied is totally knowing re its use of formula, i mean it def tries to have it both ways, but it works out p well imo

I guess it's just do you like hats/guns or hats/brooding :)

At the end of the day, it's all hats. Surely we can come together on that.

they stopped wearing hats in mad men tbh :(

oh shit, you're right. I just always remember it with hats.

can we talk more about Timothy Olyphant? and that cute sniper guy that's his sidekick?

a perfect getaway is p good

• i also think the sniper is v handsome

he sneaks up on you, but yes. super handsome. and he has a lovely drawl. Apparently he was the lead in Eurotrip? Which hurts my head. I so don't want to see that movie.

ive seen eurotrip at least lol 3 times, it was on cable a lot, its p hilar in its own way, hes not the lead but he has a big part - scotty doesnt know scotty doesnt know dont tell scotty --matt damon

hmm

this is not really the type of movie you want to watch 'on purpose'

jus fyi

I had a feeling

local garda otm in this thread -- justified is a fine show with flashes of greatness (and i would rather watch it than mad men, but that doesn't matter because i'd rather watch almost anything over mad men), but it's kind of, i dunno, basic. last season totally stepped up but the reviews going 'omg it's the wire for the appalachians!' were just ridic.

Mostly everything that gets compared to 'The Wire' is wishful-thinking/shameless hyperbole. Brits did it hardcore with the Danish The Killing.

re: Mad Men being a soap vs. this: Mad Men is so character based that the plots hinge not on what actually happens but how the characters react to them. That's what we're watching for and that's what makes it great. Justified doesn't quite do that in the same way: Lots of viewer interest relies on what Mags and her clan is up to/how Raylon and Winona are going to get out of the evidence box fiasco/whatever happened in the few stand-alones. It's just the way the show is designed, and at the moment, that can only allow for so much of the character development that a lot of people think makes shows like Mad Men great. If they were to try a predominately two-person episode (perhaps a bottle, perhaps not) like "The Suitcase" or "The Fly", I'm not sure how well it would work. Though I'd love to see them try.

some dude, no offense but you like rizzoli and isles.

Just because they don't quote fuckin' Socrates or make meta commentaries on the state of domestic politics via meth labs doesn't diminish it one bit.

this argument's getting way too snooty for my liking.

basic.

PAH.

PAH I SAY.

I love Justified! I'm just saying that it should be approached differently from shows like Mad Men, and shouldn't be compared.

ireland, the most cosmopolitan country in the world

mm

might want to get your sarcasm radar rewired.

i agree the comparison thing is kinda stupid, i didn't really go down that road to begin with, it was foisted on me!

Mad Men is so character based that the plots hinge not on what actually happens but how the characters react to them.

but there's still a fairly good plot, like even within that this is telling a story about people's lives and the events that they react to are interesting/funny.

breaking bad manages to balance a really intense plot with just perfect character development all the way through, like how it manages to pace each episode and make every moment feel so deftly used is amazing.

if we are to compare it's probably a better comparison point. i also disagree with the notion that wanting something that gets really raw and deep into its characters is somehow snooty or something. it's not, it's just exciting.

some dude, no offense but you like rizzoli and isles.

― polyphonic, Thursday, June 30, 2011 1:05 AM (6 hours ago) Bookmark

i like Justified more fwiw, and there is a large difference of context between saying a highly praised and ilx-popular show isn't quite what people have hyped it up to be and saying that a show noone gives a shit about is pretty decent and watchable. but y'know whatever weakass ad hominem you want to use to discredit my opinion, "no offense."

sometimes shows just dont 'click' with people, for example i think community is petty funny but ilx thinks its the best sitcom of the decade, nothing you can do about that really, the thing is though, justified is really effing good

it might be because i have come to a lot of these shows after a long time never watching any tv drama, and i think with justified it feels too much "like a tv show" before i stopped watching stuff.

Ah....okay well that makes sense. See I probably watch more TV than anything else, and I kinda like the genre stuff that still behaves like regular tv.

having said all this i will watch s3, just prob like s2, when there's a lull between other stuff i like a bit better. it's still entertaining.

now i feel bad; mad men was just a red herring because i was mad. sorry!

there's a reason it's not called happy ladies iirc

it might be because i have come to a lot of these shows after a long time never watching any tv drama, and i think with justified it feels too much "like a tv show" before i stopped watching stuff.

― LocalGarda, Thursday, June 30, 2011 9:29 AM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

justified is v 'tv-showy' but imo it kinda transcends the form via knowingness/having such attention to detail

weakass ad hominem

I just find it odd that you like that show, but this show is "basic" and Mad Men is no good at all. Diff'rent strokes, I guess.

why would a tv show need to transcend the form the form is awesome >:[

it doesnt need to

i can't even track who i'm mad at itt anymore

i think the ways in which this show is meta are kind of not at the heart of it anyway; i just assume the writers get bored and like to amuse themselves with it.

and they are interested in genre as a thing so they like to comment on it

oh and another thing i liek abt it thats not boilerplate tv drama is how the plot for next week episode starts at the end of the previous week, gives it a nice rhythm

idk i think the meta thing is v much written into the main character so