US POLITICS SPRING 2011: Let's just call off this country.

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The whip writes down all their ideas on a notepad.

goole, Wednesday, 13 July 2011 19:06 (thirteen years ago) link

The whip recognized that it would be counterproductive to lecture the freshmen about the economic hazards of not raising the debt ceiling.

so responsible! whatta guy

The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 13 July 2011 19:08 (thirteen years ago) link

Nobody told these fools that a balanced budget amendment would likely not pass constitutional muster.

The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 13 July 2011 19:09 (thirteen years ago) link

i mean the guy basically set up a day-care for the tea party reps

☂ (max), Wednesday, 13 July 2011 19:13 (thirteen years ago) link

kevin drum gets email from an i-banker

http://motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2011/07/has-wall-street-given-boehner

goole, Wednesday, 13 July 2011 19:13 (thirteen years ago) link

or, less charitably, a group therapy session in a mental home

☂ (max), Wednesday, 13 July 2011 19:14 (thirteen years ago) link

several freshmen have said they’ll vote to raise the ceiling only if the president agrees to repeal his health care legislation.

Don't know whether to laugh or cry, but I'm choosing laugh.

Have not gotten over my dancing phase (Dan Peterson), Wednesday, 13 July 2011 19:16 (thirteen years ago) link

Basically they have no concept of how politics actually work and the republican leadership is content with keeping them in the dark.

Moodles, Wednesday, 13 July 2011 19:17 (thirteen years ago) link

I really want these reps named

HOOBASTANK is my co-pilot (DJP), Wednesday, 13 July 2011 19:20 (thirteen years ago) link

Me too, just googled, can't find them. But Bachmann's on board!

Have not gotten over my dancing phase (Dan Peterson), Wednesday, 13 July 2011 19:22 (thirteen years ago) link

House has always been full of morans

i hate it when rats eat my bushels (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 13 July 2011 19:24 (thirteen years ago) link

Mittens getting angry in Iowa.

The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 13 July 2011 19:25 (thirteen years ago) link

A comment from Dan's post:

I LOVE this idea! Let's see how committed Obama is to getting the debt ceiling raised and "save our credit."

BTW, isn't this the longest amount of time Obama has spent in Washington since getting elected? I think so. If he stays in Washington until this is resolved, we will save tens of millions by him not using Air Force One and the entourage that goes with it.

The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 13 July 2011 19:25 (thirteen years ago) link

I believe the correct term is "posse"

i hate it when rats eat my bushels (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 13 July 2011 19:27 (thirteen years ago) link

omg the comments on Dan's link are hilarious

xp: see?

HOOBASTANK is my co-pilot (DJP), Wednesday, 13 July 2011 19:27 (thirteen years ago) link

Mittens is doomed

i hate it when rats eat my bushels (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 13 July 2011 19:27 (thirteen years ago) link

I hope conservatives appreciate how I defended Bush when libs got mad at his taking vacation time.

The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 13 July 2011 19:28 (thirteen years ago) link

But sadly the mainstream media will phrase things using a false equivalency as "the principle-bound conservatives on the right" and the liberals on the left will not come together and agree to an adult compromise.

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 13 July 2011 19:30 (thirteen years ago) link

"alright, let's get down to business. let's fucking grow up and get serious. i agree to vote for this debt ceiling thing that must be done no matter what. but ONLY if you agree to repeal your signature accomplishment as president. i like toitles."

taste the rainbow...zoom zoom...if you build it, they will come (Z S), Wednesday, 13 July 2011 19:31 (thirteen years ago) link

http://www.factcheck.org/2010/01/president-obamas-vacation-days/

I think the takeaway here is "ppl hate it when the President goes on vacation"

HOOBASTANK is my co-pilot (DJP), Wednesday, 13 July 2011 19:33 (thirteen years ago) link

But sadly the mainstream media will phrase things using a false equivalency as "the principle-bound conservatives on the right" and the liberals on the left will not come together and agree to an adult compromise.

― curmudgeon, Wednesday, July 13, 2011 2:30 PM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark

this is like a mirror-world comment from redstate or something

goole, Wednesday, 13 July 2011 19:36 (thirteen years ago) link

That's what I was going for. Although I also had a discussion with someone who said "Obama is doing the right thing if both Bachmann and Kucinich are mad at him."

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 13 July 2011 19:40 (thirteen years ago) link

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/271742/ezra-klein-loving-it-michael-walsh

this just keeps getting weirder.

goole, Wednesday, 13 July 2011 20:57 (thirteen years ago) link

From Nate silver's article today:

If we do take the Republicans' no-new-taxes position literally, it isn't surprising that the negotiations have broken down. Consider that, according to the Gallup poll, Republican voters want the deal to consist of 26 percent tax increases, and Democratic voters 46 percent -- a gap of 20 percentage points. If Republicans in the House insist upon zero tax increases, there is a larger ideological gap between House Republicans and Republican voters than there is between Republican voters and Democratic ones.

This country is so fucked up

taste the rainbow...zoom zoom...if you build it, they will come (Z S), Thursday, 14 July 2011 01:08 (thirteen years ago) link

Lots of worthwhile stuff in that article btw

taste the rainbow...zoom zoom...if you build it, they will come (Z S), Thursday, 14 July 2011 01:09 (thirteen years ago) link

So it's come to this: the Republicans are divided and can't pick a candidate to back, so all Republican candidates are somewhat faltering when it comes to money, to degrees but especially compared to the fundraising juggernaut that is Obama. Which means more outlier right wing nuts will pick up local seats as Obama heads for a more and more certain second term (despite general dwindling of enthusiasm and support?). So we'll have a weak president, hopefully a familiar Dem senate (but who knows), and a House even more more definitively, defiantly Crazypants Republican. And hey, maybe at this rate another recession as well! If this first term was a frustrating mess, the second term will put it to shame on the dysfunctional front.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 14 July 2011 05:21 (thirteen years ago) link

lolz with Lady Lindsey:

“Our problem is, we made a big deal about this for three months,” said Senator Lindsey Graham, Republican of South Carolina.

“How many Republicans have been on TV saying, ‘I am not going to raise the debt limit,’ ” said Mr. Graham, including himself in the mix of those who did so. “We have no one to blame but ourselves.”

i hate it when rats eat my bushels (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 14 July 2011 05:32 (thirteen years ago) link

Problems, problems, problems. Everything's a problem with these guys.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 14 July 2011 05:36 (thirteen years ago) link

Yeah but can't they just say "No, you're taking me out of context!" (a la Gingrich) in regards to those TV appearances?

Telephoneface (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 14 July 2011 12:25 (thirteen years ago) link

They could, if they want to appear even worse

HOOBASTANK is my co-pilot (DJP), Thursday, 14 July 2011 13:07 (thirteen years ago) link

It looks like Cantor and the House crazies may not go along with the McConnell plan and so those heated discussions at the White House revolve around Cantor trying to push Obama into a 1.75 to 2 trillion cuts only package. Today they're supposed to discuss the revenue side. Obama will probably settle for closing of any deduction and declare it a victory.

curmudgeon, Thursday, 14 July 2011 13:08 (thirteen years ago) link

cantor is such a gross human being

Genre Fiction › Men's Adventure (schlump), Thursday, 14 July 2011 13:20 (thirteen years ago) link

he even looks like a scumbag politician

remy bean, Thursday, 14 July 2011 13:46 (thirteen years ago) link

that's right, in addition to smelling like a scumbag politician

Genre Fiction › Men's Adventure (schlump), Thursday, 14 July 2011 13:46 (thirteen years ago) link

President Obama may call lawmakers to Camp David over the weekend in order to continue debt negotiations, Business Week reports.

Pleeeez, make them stop...

curmudgeon, Thursday, 14 July 2011 15:26 (thirteen years ago) link

I do enjoy seeing the big tent problem hit the other side for once.

bnw, Thursday, 14 July 2011 15:29 (thirteen years ago) link

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid says House Republican Leader Eric Cantor should not be part of the debt limit negotiations. He's calling the Virginia Republican congressman "childish."

Reid says Cantor's conduct during the sensitive White House talks have "shown, in Reid's words, "he shouldn't even be at the table." Reid says other congressional leaders are negotiating in good faith as an Aug. deadline approaches for raising the debt limit.

i hate it when rats eat my bushels (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 14 July 2011 15:29 (thirteen years ago) link

In other news, I wish Eric Holder would get the Justice Department to go after Rupert Murdoch:

from CNN:

On Wednesday, several senators sent letters to Attorney General Eric Holder asking him to look into concerns that News Corp. violated the Foreign Corrupt Practices Act, known as the FCPA. The law, enacted in 1977, makes it illegal for a U.S. person or company to pay foreign officials to obtain or retain business.

Potential liability flows from journalists at News of the World to its parent, News International, and to its parent, News Corp., which is a publicly held company in the United States.

Concerns that victims of the 9/11 attacks had their privacy violated appear to be traceable to a story published Wednesday by the Mirror, a British tabloid that includes a section it describes as "gossip gone toxic."

curmudgeon, Thursday, 14 July 2011 15:30 (thirteen years ago) link

seems inevitable tbh

i hate it when rats eat my bushels (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 14 July 2011 15:34 (thirteen years ago) link

I mean the odds that the News Corp hacking of victims' stuff stopped at the water's edge is preposterous

i hate it when rats eat my bushels (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 14 July 2011 15:35 (thirteen years ago) link

odd idea

i hate it when rats eat my bushels (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 14 July 2011 15:35 (thirteen years ago) link

Concerns that victims of the 9/11 attacks had their privacy violated appear to be traceable to a story published Wednesday by the Mirror

i sort of love the mirror but they're not exactly paragons of reliability

40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 14 July 2011 15:36 (thirteen years ago) link

them's some preposterous odds!

HOOBASTANK is my co-pilot (DJP), Thursday, 14 July 2011 15:37 (thirteen years ago) link

wait THAT'S where Piers Morgan came from????????

HOOBASTANK is my co-pilot (DJP), Thursday, 14 July 2011 15:41 (thirteen years ago) link

"http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/archive/7/73/20110128203738!Trollface.png"

- the whole uk

J0rdan S., Thursday, 14 July 2011 15:50 (thirteen years ago) link

I do enjoy seeing the big tent problem hit the other side for once.

― bnw, Thursday, July 14, 2011 10:29 AM (36 minutes ago) Bookmark

hell yes. i know the fate of the universe is on the line, but yes.

goole, Thursday, 14 July 2011 16:07 (thirteen years ago) link

President Obama may call lawmakers to Camp David over the weekend in order to continue debt negotiations, Business Week reports.

He's totally going to invite them in, then lock the door , run away and return to Washington. What are the odds no one notices the missing lawmakers?

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 14 July 2011 16:14 (thirteen years ago) link

"lawmakers" is being generous

i hate it when rats eat my bushels (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 14 July 2011 16:15 (thirteen years ago) link


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