― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 23:24 (eighteen years ago) link
― Josh in Chicago (Josh in Chicago), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 23:25 (eighteen years ago) link
― Alan Conceicao (Alan Conceicao), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 23:26 (eighteen years ago) link
― gear (gear), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 23:27 (eighteen years ago) link
― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 23:28 (eighteen years ago) link
You are not alone.
This is nothing compared to most people's connections to the area, but I can mentally connect some of the pictures I'm seeing to sites I've been to on my summer road trip from spring 2002...(this is literally the day after I stayed at 3's place in Athens)... I distinctly remember being on that bridge in Mobile where the oil rig crashed into, for example.
― donut gon' nut (donut), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 23:30 (eighteen years ago) link
― Josh in Chicago (Josh in Chicago), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 23:31 (eighteen years ago) link
it will take a long time, if the communities hit by ivan last year are any indication.
― hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 23:32 (eighteen years ago) link
― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 23:32 (eighteen years ago) link
― k/l (Ken L), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 23:33 (eighteen years ago) link
― ian quiche-lorraine (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 23:35 (eighteen years ago) link
I think that's the way nature wanted it all along. Lake Pontchartrain is getting its way.
― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 23:36 (eighteen years ago) link
Although, while we all know better, there shouldn't be any finality re: sentiments relating to the city of New Orleans itself. This tragedy is unprecedented no doubt.. this is not unlike what happened in Anchorage in 1964 (The 9.0 Prince William Sound earthquake that pretty much devastated the city, even though the quake itself was relatively far away.).. but Anchorage is alive today. New Orleans is hangin' on and will remain alive.
― donut gon' nut (donut), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 23:38 (eighteen years ago) link
This scientist says global warming has nothing to do with it. Der Spiegel says Katrina is emblematic of future environmental catastrophes.
Conclusion: expect this to be politicized in the following weeks and months.
Conclusion 2: this might be worthy of a separate thread.
― Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 23:39 (eighteen years ago) link
― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 23:41 (eighteen years ago) link
Explain how this is unprecedented?
― The Original Jimmy Mod: Kind Warrior (The Famous Jimmy Mod), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 23:42 (eighteen years ago) link
― ian quiche-lorraine (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 23:42 (eighteen years ago) link
I mean, I've been through really mean earthquakes in L.A., but none of them ever "destroyed" L.A.
(Not to discount the large number of very small cities that get smashed by tornadoes every year.. )
(And, duh, not to discount the tsunami from half a year ago, which still dwarfs Katrina's aftermath.. as painful as it looks right now.)
― donut gon' nut (donut), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 23:42 (eighteen years ago) link
Not that I want to turn this into a pet issue or anything, but it seems so obvious to me. Hurricane season is FUCKING BRUTAL every year now.Incidentally, the Central Pacific Hurricane Season will actually be below average this year. Only two or three storms are projected to form there.
― Ian Riese-Moraine: a casualty of society's derangement. (Eastern Mantra), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 23:42 (eighteen years ago) link
Well, it's pretty unprecedented for New Orleans, for starters.
― donut gon' nut (donut), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 23:43 (eighteen years ago) link
Well, it's not Babylon. It takes a lot to kill a city. But it's fucking devastated, that's all I'm saying.
― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 23:43 (eighteen years ago) link
― k/l (Ken L), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 23:43 (eighteen years ago) link
My God, who does? Who wants their friends and loved ones, or ANYONE'S friends and loved ones, to be fucking weather refugees? Or worse?
― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 23:46 (eighteen years ago) link
which is why the "our tsunami" rhetoric bugs me -- what, are we ENVIOUS of their disaster? do we need to reappropriate it so we can turn the sympathy we extended to them back upon ourselves? i mean, i realize this is a major catastrophe, but people were saying "our tsunami" before anything even happened.
― ian quiche-lorraine (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 23:55 (eighteen years ago) link
― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 23:56 (eighteen years ago) link
I can't get either right now, though really I'm not too surprised...
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 23:58 (eighteen years ago) link
also, how long before the early statements of "Oh don't worry; we've got ALL the National Guard we need" are visibly disproven?
...and will come up during next year's election cycle, when people start pointing figures about slashed funding, lack of troops, etc
― kingfish 'doublescoop' moose tracks (kingfish 2.0), Wednesday, 31 August 2005 00:01 (eighteen years ago) link
i say it with wuv. i do think your unrepentant anglophilia is a little quirky, but hey, so is madonna's.
― ian quiche-lorraine (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 31 August 2005 00:01 (eighteen years ago) link
I was in for a while, but cut it off. You're not missing anything major. It's a bunch of clueless local newscasters. The one woman who kept pointing to a barbecue she saw as evidence of the local spirit, again and again, despite protests that that they were only doing it to get their food warm for a change... she pissed me off.
― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 31 August 2005 00:02 (eighteen years ago) link
― j blount (papa la bas), Wednesday, 31 August 2005 00:03 (eighteen years ago) link
haha
― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 31 August 2005 00:04 (eighteen years ago) link
― Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Wednesday, 31 August 2005 00:04 (eighteen years ago) link
they'll get funding coming out of their eyeballs. this'll be an opportunity for bush et al to prove how much they care about WHAT'S GOING ON RIGHT HERE AT HOME (tm).
― ian quiche-lorraine (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 31 August 2005 00:05 (eighteen years ago) link
― Alan Conceicao (Alan Conceicao), Wednesday, 31 August 2005 00:05 (eighteen years ago) link
Also, to cook up as much stuff from the freezer before it goes bad, probably.
― Rock Hardy (Rock Hardy), Wednesday, 31 August 2005 00:05 (eighteen years ago) link
i know. i was saying before that they remind me of those swinging cages on coney island's wonder wheel.
― ian quiche-lorraine (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 31 August 2005 00:07 (eighteen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 31 August 2005 00:08 (eighteen years ago) link
also, how long does a hurricane last? how long will it be before these people can return to their homes (what's left of them anyways)?
― gem (trisk), Wednesday, 31 August 2005 00:09 (eighteen years ago) link
That was pointed out, too. But no, it's spirit! Talking point! She wants to work for Fox someday.
― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 31 August 2005 00:09 (eighteen years ago) link
LOOTERZ GETS BEER
― The Original Jimmy Mod: Kind Warrior (The Famous Jimmy Mod), Wednesday, 31 August 2005 00:09 (eighteen years ago) link
― ian quiche-lorraine (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 31 August 2005 00:10 (eighteen years ago) link
(Quick note, Gem -- these questions at least were answered with various links up above, so scan through before asking! )
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 31 August 2005 00:11 (eighteen years ago) link
luck of the draw, but like I said, don't bother. No insight there, no breaking news. Buncha local news morons throwing around big hunks of obviousness.
― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 31 August 2005 00:11 (eighteen years ago) link
Jimmy Mod, didn't you see the invisible capo on the first fret of teh Prez's guitar?
― k/l (Ken L), Wednesday, 31 August 2005 00:12 (eighteen years ago) link
I did!
Climate Instability + Current Political Situation = Ruin
― Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Wednesday, 31 August 2005 00:12 (eighteen years ago) link
it's estimated that 1.3 million people live in the new orleans metropolitan area. only 2.6 million people live in all of mississippi, which includes areas not damaged by katrina.
what is a realistic estimate of people who are now homeless?
i don't know if there has been a realistic estimate at this point, across louisiana, mississippi and alabama.
also, how long does a hurricane last?
depends. katrina's dissipated from hurricane strength by this point. the flooding's the bigger issue now.
how long will it be before these people can return to their homes (what's left of them anyways)?
depends. for some it may be months.
― hstencil (hstencil), Wednesday, 31 August 2005 00:13 (eighteen years ago) link
It's in the key of 'F'...
― The Original Jimmy Mod: Kind Warrior (The Famous Jimmy Mod), Wednesday, 31 August 2005 00:13 (eighteen years ago) link
"There's a war that needs to be fought and won in America first. The war against nature."
― Josh in Chicago (Josh in Chicago), Wednesday, 31 August 2005 00:16 (eighteen years ago) link