to clarify, maybe: both hartley and soderbergh openly discuss thinking about films in terms of their graphic potential, in terms of the image.
― by another name (amateurist), Saturday, 23 July 2011 03:37 (thirteen years ago) link
his statement that he feels bored with mainstream narrative filmmaking should probably be taken at face value--he's bored. but it's hard not to find it a bit hubristic. i mean, lots of great filmmakers never seemed to get bored with narrative filmmaking.
i know, right? this is my least favorite thing for a filmmaker to say, i think. it infuriates me. i get bored with YOU, steven soderbergh!
― horseshoe, Saturday, 23 July 2011 04:23 (thirteen years ago) link
in communist russia... etc.
― by another name (amateurist), Saturday, 23 July 2011 04:27 (thirteen years ago) link
and Soderberg has proven an expert in narrative filmmaking (sex, lies, and videotape, Erin Brockovich).
― The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 23 July 2011 11:28 (thirteen years ago) link
i agree, he's made some excellent films -- it's just an odd thing to say that he feels that he's exhausted the format. i believe he's sincere, and probably humble about it too, but it comes across as hubristic just the same.
― by another name (amateurist), Saturday, 23 July 2011 11:32 (thirteen years ago) link
i think you're allowed to be bored by something that other people didn't get bored by
― graveshitwave (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 23 July 2011 11:47 (thirteen years ago) link
no
― horseshoe, Saturday, 23 July 2011 14:01 (thirteen years ago) link
not allowed
it doesnt bother me because i dont think hes saying other people are suckers for being into narrative filmmaking - i think there are infinitely more obnoxious ways he could go about saying that he's bored with directing
― http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_i_qxQztHRI (Princess TamTam), Saturday, 23 July 2011 15:21 (thirteen years ago) link
also yeah that trailer looks *exactly* like a DTV action movie except with big stars. it's one of the more surreal trailers ive seen in recent memory actually
― http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_i_qxQztHRI (Princess TamTam), Saturday, 23 July 2011 16:35 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah it seems like a category error
anyway yeah sorry don't know why i went on and on about that quote. he seems like a decent, sincere sort who's only saying that he himself is a bit bored with what he's been up to.
― by another name (amateurist), Saturday, 23 July 2011 17:43 (thirteen years ago) link
I've been seeing this guy at my lab a lot recently. People are ridiculously deferential to him and he drives a beaten up old VW bug.
― Patrice Leclerc Delacroix Poussin (admrl), Saturday, 23 July 2011 17:53 (thirteen years ago) link
So, there you go
― Patrice Leclerc Delacroix Poussin (admrl), Saturday, 23 July 2011 17:54 (thirteen years ago) link
that's because he's driving the original herbie.
― apichathong song (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Saturday, 23 July 2011 17:55 (thirteen years ago) link
is that a euphemism
― Patrice Leclerc Delacroix Poussin (admrl), Saturday, 23 July 2011 19:15 (thirteen years ago) link
pass the herbie from the left hand side
― by another name (amateurist), Saturday, 23 July 2011 20:20 (thirteen years ago) link
Off to join Bill Watterson or something.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 29 August 2011 22:40 (thirteen years ago) link
Passive aggressive notes
― jed_, Monday, 29 August 2011 22:45 (thirteen years ago) link
this reminded me how much i enjoyed getting away with it.
― caek, Thursday, 15 September 2011 14:02 (thirteen years ago) link
seeing the byline reminded me how much i don't enjoy dan kois
― a fake wannabe trying to be a pimp (history mayne), Thursday, 15 September 2011 14:05 (thirteen years ago) link
well yes that article is a list of glib thoughts and anecdotes. but the book is good!
― caek, Thursday, 15 September 2011 14:42 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah it's a good book. i didn't read the article. tbh im not even sure if i've ever read anything by dan kois except the one where he says foreign movies are for posers, which i power-skimmed.
― a fake wannabe trying to be a pimp (history mayne), Thursday, 15 September 2011 14:43 (thirteen years ago) link
poser.
schizopolis is ~10x better than it has any right to be
― caek, Thursday, 15 September 2011 14:46 (thirteen years ago) link
Kent Jones does a fine takedown of Kois in the new Film Comment
― incredibly middlebrow (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 15 September 2011 14:46 (thirteen years ago) link
is there a soderbergh poll?
― caek, Thursday, 15 September 2011 14:49 (thirteen years ago) link
shd leave it till he's retired / haywire has come out
― a fake wannabe trying to be a pimp (history mayne), Thursday, 15 September 2011 14:50 (thirteen years ago) link
sure, just wondering if i'd missed the thread
― caek, Thursday, 15 September 2011 15:01 (thirteen years ago) link
that would have been a disaster
steven soderPOLLgh is the one to search for
― a fake wannabe trying to be a pimp (history mayne), Thursday, 15 September 2011 15:03 (thirteen years ago) link
Getting Away With It is very smart and enjoyable and one of the main reasons I'll always give Soderbergh the benefit of the doubt.
― Science, you guys. Science. (DL), Thursday, 15 September 2011 15:53 (thirteen years ago) link
Sad irony having that Slate article slathered in ads for Moneyball.
― Corn Maze to the Dark Side (Eazy), Thursday, 15 September 2011 21:21 (thirteen years ago) link
I don't have a problem with ranking OOS and The Limey as his beset, and Kois is OTM about Traffic and his Best Director Oscar ("it's a helpful reminder that, to the Academy, "best directing" usually means 'most directing'").
― Anakin Ska Walker (AKA Skarth Vader) (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 15 September 2011 22:05 (thirteen years ago) link
sex lies & videotape is still brilliant imo
― titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Friday, 18 November 2011 22:42 (twelve years ago) link
although weirdly for such an important film, it doesnt seem to have retained its stature
― titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Friday, 18 November 2011 22:43 (twelve years ago) link
http://timeoutchicago.com/arts-culture/film/15082547/steven-soderbergh-interview
― do you not like slouching? (Eazy), Thursday, 19 January 2012 18:59 (twelve years ago) link
hm, re-editing 'kafka' sounds interesting i guess?
glad hes not into super-quick-cutting action steez
― johnny crunch, Thursday, 19 January 2012 19:12 (twelve years ago) link
Did not know his new flick stars Gina Carano. Infinitely more interested in seeing it now.
― Put another Juggle in, in the Juggalodeon (kingfish), Thursday, 19 January 2012 21:27 (twelve years ago) link
new flick looks *~dope~*
― omar little, Thursday, 19 January 2012 21:28 (twelve years ago) link
heard bad things
― (govtname)mac (darraghmac), Thursday, 19 January 2012 21:38 (twelve years ago) link
don't care
Soderbergh should make another "Schizopolis," not this commercial garbage. He's been a whore since he started working with George (C)loon(e)y.
― Static Electricity, Thursday, 19 January 2012 21:47 (twelve years ago) link
consider yourself 'snapped', george, if you're reading tonight
― (govtname)mac (darraghmac), Thursday, 19 January 2012 21:49 (twelve years ago) link
http://www.celebitchy.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/wenn3103499.jpg
― omar little, Thursday, 19 January 2012 21:50 (twelve years ago) link
AV Club liked it
― Put another Juggle in, in the Juggalodeon (kingfish), Thursday, 19 January 2012 21:51 (twelve years ago) link
http://latimesherocomplex.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/haywire1.jpg?w=600&h=379
― Put another Juggle in, in the Juggalodeon (kingfish), Thursday, 19 January 2012 21:55 (twelve years ago) link
official ilx thread for steven soderbergh's haywire starring gina carano and bearded antonio banderas
― maghrib is back (Hungry4Ass), Thursday, 19 January 2012 21:58 (twelve years ago) link
I put this in the Side Effects thread too:
http://www.vulture.com/2013/01/steven-soderbergh-in-conversation.html
― to each his own but (Eazy), Monday, 28 January 2013 17:10 (eleven years ago) link
thanks for that, great interview
― ❏❐❑❒ (gr8080), Monday, 28 January 2013 17:24 (eleven years ago) link
When I hear people talk about 2025, I’m like, this could all turn into Mad Max a lot sooner than that! I was talking to Dr. Larry Brilliant, who consulted on Contagion, and I asked him, “Does the world seem to be spinning out of control as fast as I think it is?” And he said, “Oh, yeah.”
― saltwater incursion (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 29 January 2013 02:45 (eleven years ago) link
i admire this dude's relentless work ethic
― christmas candy bar (al leong), Tuesday, 29 January 2013 02:50 (eleven years ago) link