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Yeah sorry, that's what I meant, the little coloured bar thingo (I was lazy/walk-posting and cbf doing the extra words). That coloured bar thingo doesn't show up for me in Gmail, despite 'https' being in the URL.

Autumn Almanac, Tuesday, 23 August 2011 08:49 (twelve years ago) link

Modify Headers is working now

zvookster, Tuesday, 23 August 2011 11:29 (twelve years ago) link

apparently staying on versions 5 or 4 is bad. for security reasons if u don't want 6.0 u should go back to 3.6.

zvookster, Tuesday, 23 August 2011 11:31 (twelve years ago) link

If I open a new window and type in the https address for Gmail, it redirects to http. WTF. It simply will not go to https.

Also, the URLs are still fucked up. I'm on FB, but even I can go to my profile, messages, pictures, etc. and the URL remains: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taking_Tiger_Mountain_(By_Strategy). Which, now that I think of it, really doesn't make sense b/c, how did I get to FB from Wiki-p?

Anyway, these quirks makes me dubious of the whole version. Not good.

weakness for Cinnabon; rampant heterosexuality (Je55e), Wednesday, 24 August 2011 02:13 (twelve years ago) link

Update: clicking a Mail To link opens a new Gmail message in https. But it still won't open my Gmail account in https. Weird shit.

weakness for Cinnabon; rampant heterosexuality (Je55e), Wednesday, 24 August 2011 02:14 (twelve years ago) link

There's an https setting on the first page of Gmail settings. Is that on?

Autumn Almanac, Wednesday, 24 August 2011 02:26 (twelve years ago) link

It is! I checked that. It is working in IE. And I have rebooted a couple times since yesterday.
I'm not even really worried about the connection not being secure (should I be?) as much as I'm annoyed that FF is FF-ing me.

weakness for Cinnabon; rampant heterosexuality (Je55e), Wednesday, 24 August 2011 02:29 (twelve years ago) link

Weird! I can't help you with that one.

Autumn Almanac, Wednesday, 24 August 2011 02:31 (twelve years ago) link

have u tried clearing cache/deleting cookies?

mookieproof, Wednesday, 24 August 2011 02:35 (twelve years ago) link

there's an interesting plugin that I use that converts FF to IE (for pages that can only load in IE)

stop listening to the lyrics so much. you're ruining music (CaptainLorax), Wednesday, 24 August 2011 02:38 (twelve years ago) link

but I don't know why https://gmail.com wouldn't load in FF. works fine on the old versions
maybe you accidentally blocked it on noscript? i dunno

stop listening to the lyrics so much. you're ruining music (CaptainLorax), Wednesday, 24 August 2011 02:41 (twelve years ago) link

I clear the cache regularly (this laptop is old as hell and going through Google Reader makes FF bog down, and clearing the cache fixes that problem), but not cookies.

BUT! it seems like typing in "https," which I tried before, without success, worked this time. So: tentative hoorah!

I am going to clear cookies.

weakness for Cinnabon; rampant heterosexuality (Je55e), Wednesday, 24 August 2011 02:43 (twelve years ago) link

Maybe that will take care of that URL problem. The word "cookies" made me want one, so I'm going to clear my cache and cookies while I go to Potbelly to get a sandwich and a cookie.

weakness for Cinnabon; rampant heterosexuality (Je55e), Wednesday, 24 August 2011 02:44 (twelve years ago) link

I'd google search IE Tab plugin just for the hell of it. It's a pretty cool plugin

stop listening to the lyrics so much. you're ruining music (CaptainLorax), Wednesday, 24 August 2011 02:46 (twelve years ago) link

I have had that plugin for a while.

weakness for Cinnabon; rampant heterosexuality (Je55e), Wednesday, 24 August 2011 02:52 (twelve years ago) link

I'm still running 3.6.20
Is there any reason to upgrade?
It works perfectly atm

me too but i think its seen its last security update so keep an eye out
people got problems with their new update schedule and one of their top guys has been a dick about it, their whoa radical new version scheme (they're gonna 'get rid of' version numbers shortly) and design changes are all about biting chrome for no good reason, they're putting cool stuff in in but the effects on the user experience doesnt seem to concern them atm

http://www.zdnet.com/blog/bott/mozilla-to-enterprise-customers-drop-dead/3497

http://arstechnica.com/business/news/2011/06/firefox-update-policy-the-enterprise-is-wrong-not-mozilla.ars

http://www.conceivablytech.com/8983/business/dear-mozilla-version-numbers-matter

tremendoid, Wednesday, 24 August 2011 06:40 (twelve years ago) link

Thanks for the info

stop listening to the lyrics so much. you're ruining music (CaptainLorax), Wednesday, 24 August 2011 06:48 (twelve years ago) link

ff7 beta's out with the emphasis on speed. but sod that if 6 still has problems with my favoured plugins. (tbh they are all working now but a few of them i had to manually update)

firefox 6 appears to lack the ability to remember where the iplayer pop-out player used to be

koogs, Wednesday, 24 August 2011 08:45 (twelve years ago) link

FF5? FFS more like

Releasing new rounded-off numbered versions this fast only leads to inflation of anticipation, annoying the hell out of people who use a lot of add-ons, like me. It becomes really confusing for a lot of users. Maybe the only solution is to turn off auto-update and just dive in a new version when it's completely tested out and with all add-ons working. I am on FF6 now, but basically this will probably mean I will always stay one version behind the newest version.

Vaginalogue Bubblebath (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 24 August 2011 10:25 (twelve years ago) link

i thought it was only drupal that did this shit

"your useful stuff only works with 5 but the current stable version is 6; however, we suggest all users begin using 7 as soon as possible"

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 24 August 2011 10:47 (twelve years ago) link

argh. i pressed on 'install updates' and it went from 6 to 7 beta. luckily this is on laptop which i only ever boot into windows to install updates.

koogs, Wednesday, 24 August 2011 14:57 (twelve years ago) link

jesus christ

*steens furiHOOSly* (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Wednesday, 24 August 2011 15:34 (twelve years ago) link

499,188 K just won't do

Zingling Baby (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 24 August 2011 15:35 (twelve years ago) link

i mean

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 24 August 2011 15:37 (twelve years ago) link

i feel like these guys are approaching adobe levels of sheer arrogance and inattention to performance, cf avid

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 24 August 2011 15:37 (twelve years ago) link

about:cache

koogs, Wednesday, 24 August 2011 15:51 (twelve years ago) link

my task manager is showing 380MB

about cache: is saying 316KB for in-memory cache

but i've got 8GB so i'm not scared of a piddling 380MB

koogs, Wednesday, 24 August 2011 15:55 (twelve years ago) link

seems like some huge entries from juno.co.uk are in the memory cache.. haven't visited in days though - how to clear?

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 24 August 2011 15:57 (twelve years ago) link

restart firefox? it can't hold things in memory if it isn't running... (although it might write them to disk)

koogs, Wednesday, 24 August 2011 15:58 (twelve years ago) link

cache-viewer add-in is also handy, lets you see and delete (or save) individual entries.

koogs, Wednesday, 24 August 2011 15:59 (twelve years ago) link

i've restarted it several times since i visited juno

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 24 August 2011 16:00 (twelve years ago) link

i will try cache viewer, chuckling inwardly at the idea of adding another plugin to suss out why ff is using so much RAM

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 24 August 2011 16:01 (twelve years ago) link

Just go to Tools> Clear recent history > and select only "Cache" from the list of things to clear.

weakness for Cinnabon; rampant heterosexuality (Je55e), Wednesday, 24 August 2011 16:02 (twelve years ago) link

http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu216/le_bateau_ivre/Untitled.png

Whoa...

Admittedly, I have 24 tabs open. But still...

Vaginalogue Bubblebath (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 24 August 2011 17:51 (twelve years ago) link

333K. And I closed everything and restarted yesterday afternoon so hardly any tabs.

Zingling Baby (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 25 August 2011 15:08 (twelve years ago) link

My stupid URL glitch is still going on. So minor a problem, and yet so irritating.

weakness for Cinnabon; rampant heterosexuality (Je55e), Thursday, 25 August 2011 15:39 (twelve years ago) link

182mb here, 10 tabs

Once Were Moderators (DG), Thursday, 25 August 2011 20:39 (twelve years ago) link

On a Mac, 10 tabs, 560 MB

Autumn Almanac, Thursday, 25 August 2011 21:18 (twelve years ago) link

(FF5, cbf upgrading)

Autumn Almanac, Thursday, 25 August 2011 21:18 (twelve years ago) link

FF6, 31 tabs, 970k + plugin container 85k. Lol.

Vaginalogue Bubblebath (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 25 August 2011 21:24 (twelve years ago) link

Why do you all have so many tabs open????

weakness for Cinnabon; rampant heterosexuality (Je55e), Thursday, 25 August 2011 21:31 (twelve years ago) link

What else to do with them? I frequently visit all of them, nearly daily. It feels silly to bookmark them and open them manually every single day. Then there's links I stumble upon every day, open to read later etc.

Btw, the 970k Firefox is ridiculously lol hueg, but it doesn't noticeably slow my pc.

Vaginalogue Bubblebath (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 25 August 2011 21:37 (twelve years ago) link

...but you have to click on the tabs manually?

zvookster, Thursday, 25 August 2011 21:39 (twelve years ago) link

i mean u can just put a bookmark button on a toolbar

zvookster, Thursday, 25 August 2011 21:39 (twelve years ago) link

Yeah, I suppose I could. I'm not saying my way is best, not at all, just explaining how I use FF. One new feature that has proven to be useful is the "pin as app tab" thing, which basically the same thing.

Vaginalogue Bubblebath (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 25 August 2011 21:46 (twelve years ago) link

(are people confusing KB with MB here? the number quoted is in KB, typically 1000s or 100,000s of KB)

koogs, Thursday, 25 August 2011 22:01 (twelve years ago) link

Why do you all have so many tabs open????

― weakness for Cinnabon; rampant heterosexuality (Je55e), Thursday, August 25, 2011 9:31 PM (30 minutes ago) Bookmark

ya as a general rule i keep gmail, grooveshark, ilx, fb, and tweetdeck open all day & running, and in turn those 5 generate stuff for me to open in even more new tabs throughout the day

*steens furiHOOSly* (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Thursday, 25 August 2011 22:03 (twelve years ago) link

At work this week I've had 5-10 tabs open at any given time. At home, 4 in one set and maybe 6 or 7 others in a "someday" set.

I feel agitated having this many open, though that is changing as I realize that how I use my browser is changing.

Anyway, 10 seems like a lot to me, and 20+ would make me freak out.

weakness for Cinnabon; rampant heterosexuality (Je55e), Thursday, 25 August 2011 23:20 (twelve years ago) link

Sometimes (maybe four times a year) I get to 30 and chuck a massive closing fit.

Autumn Almanac, Thursday, 25 August 2011 23:44 (twelve years ago) link


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