The Censor Swoops

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"The decision to create and enforce the policy was not taken lightly and involved a heck of a lot of debate." That you feel this needs to be underlined to me in fact does me a disservice :-(

I do apologize for the confusion on this point. I will say that having been a list moderator for a number of years I have heard any number of complaints about agendas and the like whenever a poster went out of line -- complaints FROM such a poster (or those who felt that my reaction might have been too much) about what I was supposedly doing. So to my mind your end comment can be read one way as much as it could the other (to Mark's credit, he sensed your meaning more thoroughly).

Lastly, Andrew Farrel probably has it right - maybe I should have just shut up and let the dust settle.

Well, debate is a good thing, after all. I sympathize with your idealism more than you might think -- personally I felt Calum was little more than an attention-seeking irritant for the most part, though in recent months his spitefulness and baiting of other posters grew wearying, to put it mildly. But when push came to shove, I was glad to see him gone and I think the policy drawn up -- which again reminds me of my own experience since a few months into running my lists I was also forced by circumstances to draft and enforce a policy -- is something that allows for the ideal existence of ILX while noting that in practice there are people who can and will abuse its ideals. Drawing a line in that case seems to be the only logical response.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 2 July 2003 13:44 (twenty years ago) link

Didn't I see that Calum is now going out with Emma Bunton? ho ho.

oops, I just googled "calum best emma bunton" and we're hit #3

=:o

Alan (Alan), Wednesday, 2 July 2003 13:53 (twenty years ago) link

"Calum has an ilk?" - sorry, I meant rather that his appearance flagged the possibility of more 'Calum's' materialising.

Alex K (Alex K), Wednesday, 2 July 2003 14:05 (twenty years ago) link

If anything, it's interesting to see how subjective censorship can be and how human those who do the censoring can be.
I mean, those who make the calls for censoring more, uh, widespread things, are often not much different from those who have to make those decisions here. Probably better paid though.

What this ongoing ILX growth and debate shows is that censorship is rarely as mechanical as people think of it. I'm not saying I'm pro-censorship, but I am pro-understanding, and I'm glad that the process here is fairly transparent and that people feel comfortable enough to question things and that those who get questioned feel comfortable enough to make sincere efforts to answer for themselves.

Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Wednesday, 2 July 2003 14:05 (twenty years ago) link

i think they may be better paid, horace

mark s (mark s), Wednesday, 2 July 2003 14:08 (twenty years ago) link

Paid, fullstop, is what Mark S is trying to say!

kate (kate), Wednesday, 2 July 2003 14:10 (twenty years ago) link

mods here pull in six figures right?

Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Wednesday, 2 July 2003 14:10 (twenty years ago) link

Only if you count the pennies.

Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Wednesday, 2 July 2003 14:26 (twenty years ago) link

yeah we get six figures, but they were all old GI Joes figures, and I got three Dusty's :(

jel -- (jel), Wednesday, 2 July 2003 14:38 (twenty years ago) link

i thought you got paid in groats

stevem (blueski), Wednesday, 2 July 2003 14:49 (twenty years ago) link

::insert random joke about anal congress with groats::

kate (kate), Wednesday, 2 July 2003 14:50 (twenty years ago) link

Random?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 2 July 2003 14:57 (twenty years ago) link

Come on, where is the random goat generator?

kate (kate), Wednesday, 2 July 2003 14:59 (twenty years ago) link

http://www.lta.org/images/goats.jpg

Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Wednesday, 2 July 2003 15:00 (twenty years ago) link

I meant random GROAT generator:

http://www.ff.iij4u.or.jp/~yeelen/system/law/groat.gif

(Though a random Goat Generator would be fun!)

kate (kate), Wednesday, 2 July 2003 15:00 (twenty years ago) link

I'm just glad that us mods don't get performance related pay, I'd have nowt. And would have to eek a living out of correcting my typo's.

jel -- (jel), Wednesday, 2 July 2003 15:03 (twenty years ago) link

Argh, could one of you Mods fix my post on this thread:

who are you fancying RIGHT NOW ?

so that the image is properly sized? Cheers.

kate (kate), Wednesday, 2 July 2003 15:06 (twenty years ago) link

yeah well, you'd also have to keep body & soul together by grafting in thee thread-categorisation salt mine as well.

I only went out to thee shops for a little while. What did I miss?

Pashmina (Pashmina), Wednesday, 2 July 2003 15:06 (twenty years ago) link

Where is a moderator when you actually need one? Come on, there's a groat in it for ye!

kate (kate), Wednesday, 2 July 2003 15:11 (twenty years ago) link

Here you go Kate:

Alex K (Alex K), Wednesday, 2 July 2003 15:13 (twenty years ago) link

which mod is which? (it's an old joke, and not really that funny)
http://www.punkprincess.com/images/modsquad.jpg

Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Wednesday, 2 July 2003 15:13 (twenty years ago) link

was Afro Joe really that short?

stevem (blueski), Wednesday, 2 July 2003 15:24 (twenty years ago) link

five months pass...
the more things change...

stevem (blueski), Tuesday, 16 December 2003 11:26 (twenty years ago) link


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