this thing isn't gonna have any e-ink technology in it
― markers, Sunday, 4 September 2011 03:37 (thirteen years ago) link
no, but the article offhand mentions a dual 'in the works'
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Sunday, 4 September 2011 03:39 (thirteen years ago) link
ugh, the e-ink it was makes the kindle a better reader. an android touch-screen device sounds like the nook, which while it has some good things about it, just have a good feel like the iPad - amazon should try to get a color e-ink display up, or a cheaper, thinner kindle
― Nhex, Sunday, 4 September 2011 03:49 (thirteen years ago) link
it'll be interesting to see how many of these things they sell before the year's out -- like, i wouldn't want one of these instead of an ipad, and if i could only have one tablet i'd choose an ipad, but i would consider eventually picking one of these things up just to try it out
― markers, Sunday, 4 September 2011 03:50 (thirteen years ago) link
Don't get me wrong, an iPad is much better all-around as a device. But if they want it to be a good reader, and not just a substandard web-browser/general internet device, they've got to go far to go to compete w/iPad atm. If I was a huge reader, I'd pick a Kindle over the iPad - it's easier to read lots of text on an e-ink screen over time compared to a standard backlit one
― Nhex, Sunday, 4 September 2011 03:58 (thirteen years ago) link
getting into bed w/android feels like a misstep for amazon to me
― punk'd um (cozen), Sunday, 4 September 2011 07:25 (thirteen years ago) link
I really liked the rumour of a kindle that focused on all the reading elements -- basically eink tablet with Reeder, Instapaper, Kindle books and some news apps. That would be killer for me. An android thingy (with only Amazon apps) seems a bit meh.
― stet, Sunday, 4 September 2011 17:47 (thirteen years ago) link
yes to all that.
― even blue cows get the girls (darraghmac), Sunday, 4 September 2011 18:00 (thirteen years ago) link
― punk'd um (cozen), Sunday, September 4, 2011 7:25 AM (11 hours ago) Bookmark
why do you think this is?
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Sunday, 4 September 2011 18:51 (thirteen years ago) link
cos android sucks the big one and kindle doesn't suck the big one
― punk'd um (cozen), Sunday, 4 September 2011 18:52 (thirteen years ago) link
android tablets all have an aura of failure about them xp
― dayo, Sunday, 4 September 2011 18:54 (thirteen years ago) link
I mean every 2 weeks you get a new report of "X android tablet actually only sold 1% of its production run"
Given the rampant appearance of malware in Android apps, it would seem theat ecosystem would definitely benefit from heavy invovement by a trusted name with the resources to properly vet apps. And as a tablet OS it suffers in comparison to iOS mostly in the lack of hardware standards and ecosystem of developers and vetting the Apple app store provides.
And Amazon definitely needs more popular alternatives to the iPad, as the 30% take by Apple on in-app purchases cuts deeply into impulse book buying. The HTML 5 Kindle Cloud web app is the universal solution, but accessing it requres a few more screen taps than tablet neophytes might execute.
I don't think current e-ink technology is compatible with back lighting, as e-ink pixels are tiny capsules filled with charged opaque dye compounds/particles.
― der dukatenscheisser (Sanpaku), Sunday, 4 September 2011 19:02 (thirteen years ago) link
Amazon did something different with Android - they started with an older version of Android and forked it, basically replaced a lot of the code and started their own line of development. So they won't be tied to whatever direction Google takes Android. Sort of how OS X is based on a flavor of Unix.
― lukas, Sunday, 4 September 2011 21:25 (thirteen years ago) link
Now that Amazon controls the end-to-end relationship between suppliers of goods stacked in its warehouses and consumers of those goods using its devices, Amazon’s next opportunity is to eliminate anyone who stands as a bottleneck between the two.It’s already well underway with books. Amazon’s long offered authors various models to self-publish, giving them a generous cut in exchange for conditions that help keep e-book prices low. Now it’s developing its own imprint to work directly with authors and agents. J.K. Rowling’s Pottermore was publishing’s “Radiohead” moment, showing that major authors, too, didn’t have to play with traditional publishers to deliver e-books to readers.How far is Amazon willing to take this? Amazon’s experience has shown that books can in turn provide a template for all kinds of media and other goods.For instance, imagine an analog to Amazon’s self-publishing services: Why not make an independent movie or television show and release it through Amazon? Once the video is hosted on Amazon’s servers, it’s available for immediate digital download or streaming through Prime to desktops, tablets or set-top boxes. Both streaming and downloads promise a revenue share for content creators. Customers could buy a Blu-ray or DVD that Amazon burns and ships on demand — no storage, no overhead.A lot of this video content would be vanity crap. But it could also be the next Funny Or Die or Channel 101. The breadth and independence of buying choices could easily differentiate Amazon from traditional studios — or even for those studios themselves, from competing services like Netflix.You can extrapolate this to any kind of media, from music to magazines, to physical goods like groceries (one area where Amazon’s never really been able to turn the corner), or to software — anything that can be hosted, stored or delivered. All of it fronted by Amazon’s user accounts, credit cards and retail systems. It’s iTunes, but more.
It’s already well underway with books. Amazon’s long offered authors various models to self-publish, giving them a generous cut in exchange for conditions that help keep e-book prices low. Now it’s developing its own imprint to work directly with authors and agents. J.K. Rowling’s Pottermore was publishing’s “Radiohead” moment, showing that major authors, too, didn’t have to play with traditional publishers to deliver e-books to readers.
How far is Amazon willing to take this? Amazon’s experience has shown that books can in turn provide a template for all kinds of media and other goods.
For instance, imagine an analog to Amazon’s self-publishing services: Why not make an independent movie or television show and release it through Amazon? Once the video is hosted on Amazon’s servers, it’s available for immediate digital download or streaming through Prime to desktops, tablets or set-top boxes. Both streaming and downloads promise a revenue share for content creators. Customers could buy a Blu-ray or DVD that Amazon burns and ships on demand — no storage, no overhead.
A lot of this video content would be vanity crap. But it could also be the next Funny Or Die or Channel 101. The breadth and independence of buying choices could easily differentiate Amazon from traditional studios — or even for those studios themselves, from competing services like Netflix.
You can extrapolate this to any kind of media, from music to magazines, to physical goods like groceries (one area where Amazon’s never really been able to turn the corner), or to software — anything that can be hosted, stored or delivered. All of it fronted by Amazon’s user accounts, credit cards and retail systems. It’s iTunes, but more.
http://www.wired.com/epicenter/2011/09/amazon-bigger-than-tablet/all/1
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 8 September 2011 17:27 (thirteen years ago) link
So amazon is basically an online big box store for all things digital media?
― obliquity of the ecliptic (rrrobyn), Thursday, 8 September 2011 20:29 (thirteen years ago) link
"and maybe they want to be more"
it blew my mind when i first found out they delivered groceries in seattle, but--of course they do. it makes sense. i already order my groceries & have them delivered, if i could do *all* my shopping on one site (and hurdle the heebie jeebies of one company having all my data) i totally would.
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 8 September 2011 20:33 (thirteen years ago) link
http://images.wikia.com/pixar/images/f/f0/250px-BnL.svg.png
― Ravaging Rick Rude (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 8 September 2011 20:40 (thirteen years ago) link
srs
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 8 September 2011 20:55 (thirteen years ago) link
what was that speculative video from a few years back that imagined google merging with amazon "to become googlezon, the indisputable leader in delivering your world."
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 8 September 2011 20:56 (thirteen years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AT9ho2G0N_Y
p sure googlzon was defeated by the japanese navy some years back
― hipstery nayme (darraghmac), Friday, 9 September 2011 12:06 (thirteen years ago) link
lol
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 9 September 2011 13:32 (thirteen years ago) link
For instance, imagine an analog to Amazon’s self-publishing services: Why not make an independent movie or television show and release it through Amazon?
ooh, let's see, maybe bc writing something costs c. nothing, making a movie "a shit tonne"? idk, spitballing
i mean sure '- a guy who hasn't embraced web 2.0'. but honestly.
― a hurrrr hurrrr (history mayne), Friday, 9 September 2011 13:34 (thirteen years ago) link
have you heard of "the youtube"
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 9 September 2011 13:39 (thirteen years ago) link
Amphibology is a Barthesism, n'est-ce pas?
― Stevie T, Friday, 9 September 2011 13:40 (thirteen years ago) link
Wrong thread :(
have i heard of it? dogg i spend 5-10 hours a day watching all the amazing user-generated content that users generate and put on youtube. it is an absolute goldmine for original art filmmaking. if hans richter or michael snow were getting started today... not to speak of all the many great actors and dramatists who got their first breaks on youtube.
xpost
― a hurrrr hurrrr (history mayne), Friday, 9 September 2011 13:42 (thirteen years ago) link
sooooo why not make some amazing user generated content and sell it through amazon, upping yr sales through their recommendation algorithims rather than keeping your fingers crossed and hoping on "related videos" clickthroughs and whatever social media intern you've got on promo?
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 9 September 2011 15:18 (thirteen years ago) link
read that post as 100% sarcasm tbh
― hipstery nayme (darraghmac), Friday, 9 September 2011 15:25 (thirteen years ago) link
ha i didn't even read all the way to the end tbh
^ endemic of the youtube culture
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 9 September 2011 15:29 (thirteen years ago) link
but seriously--there are plenty of people doing interesting orig work on yt, and i suspect they'd be interested in a legit revenue model. there are whole networks out there like indy mogul or impressive standalone shorts like fede alvarez's 'panic attack' that, if given a push, could produce even more impressive things.
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 9 September 2011 15:36 (thirteen years ago) link
i may be 100% wrong tbh
^ also the youtube culture thing etc
― hipstery nayme (darraghmac), Friday, 9 September 2011 15:36 (thirteen years ago) link
not to speak of all the many great actors and dramatists who got their first breaks on youtube.
p claro imo
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 9 September 2011 15:38 (thirteen years ago) link
what's the advantage of filmmakers going through amazon versus doing stuff like this?
http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/movies/2010/10/open-five.html
http://www.nobudgefilms.com/
― Mr. Que, Friday, 9 September 2011 15:41 (thirteen years ago) link
This page seems to be somewhat hidden (in Canada at least) so I'm throwing it up here
Free ebooks collectionhttp://www.amazon.com/b?node=2245146011
Includes the kindle daily deal on the top left.
― anorange (abanana), Tuesday, 20 September 2011 22:20 (thirteen years ago) link
Also I have found mobileread.com to be a good source of free ebooks.
― anorange (abanana), Tuesday, 20 September 2011 22:23 (thirteen years ago) link
just DL'd 'american book of the dead' free on amazon and lovin it so far
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 20 September 2011 23:21 (thirteen years ago) link
I have one of these now! And have thrown my collection of OCR'd PDFs onto it, which I now realise I should probably organise better (e.g. why indeed I want to read 2499371 tonight). I do have a question though: one of the PDFs I tried to view has the bottom line on each page obscured by the page number bar - is there anything I can do about this? Besides changing the zoom, which is a bit of a pain because it means I have to move lots to get around the page. I couldn't find anything looking it up, and I appreciate that perhaps DIY-scanned and uploaded PDFs aren't necessarily going to be compatible, but I'd quite like a fix.
― known for melding an outrageous stage presence with tenacious hooks (Merdeyeux), Wednesday, 21 September 2011 00:16 (thirteen years ago) link
what's an OCR'd PDF? i run my pdf's through calibre and they generally come out completely readable. good for converting other formats into kindle friendly, iphone friendly etc formats
― messiahwannabe, Wednesday, 21 September 2011 07:39 (thirteen years ago) link
anyone else quite regularly notice spelling mistakes in the ebooks they download on the kindle? or is it just me reading trashy books
― seasoning sauce all over me (tpp), Wednesday, 21 September 2011 08:27 (thirteen years ago) link
quite a few ocr issues (i.e. once every few pages) in the ONE BILLION BOOKS YOU MUST READ BEFORE YOU DIE t0rr3nt i found.
― ledge, Wednesday, 21 September 2011 08:30 (thirteen years ago) link
what's up
http://www.kindlepost.com/2011/09/kindle-books-now-available-at-local-libraries.html
― congratulations (n/a), Wednesday, 21 September 2011 14:08 (thirteen years ago) link
tpp anything i've d/l'd legit has had errors and words bre aki ng up li ke th is but anything i've ahem acquired or that was free has been ok
― talking heads, quiet smith (darraghmac), Wednesday, 21 September 2011 14:32 (thirteen years ago) link
Just checked out some kindle books from the Seattle library. Easiest if your Kindle has wifi; mine's 3g only so have to copy the files via usb. Still an easy process.
― Jaq, Wednesday, 21 September 2011 22:58 (thirteen years ago) link
You can get them from the NYPL too. Books were in a weird grayed out limbo when I tried to download over 3G until I realized about the WiFi. So a need for Wifi or USB but no need for http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v296/WilliamCrump63/libraryken.jpg
― When I Stop Meming (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 26 September 2011 23:49 (twelve years ago) link
because i'm a nerd, i'm watching a livestream of the kindle announcement today. so far they've announced a $99 kindle touch - basically the e-ink kindle with a touchscreen to turn pages, etc.
― congratulations (n/a), Wednesday, 28 September 2011 14:23 (twelve years ago) link
$99 for wi-fi, $149 for 3G
or $79 for a new smaller, lighter, non-touchscreen kindle
― congratulations (n/a), Wednesday, 28 September 2011 14:24 (twelve years ago) link
79 is the right price, bare bones the right features. Don't need the other crap. Bought.
― abcfsk, Wednesday, 28 September 2011 14:30 (twelve years ago) link